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1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Did we overrate Nolan Smith and Jalyx Hunt? Between the 2 of them they have 12 pressures and 1 QB hit.

We crowned them before they had actually proven it. They had a great short stretch of games. They have yet to have sustained success. But, they showed way more than Kelee Ringo and people were ready to crown him as CB2 basically sight unseen.

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1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

Just watched the 4th and 1 play. Davis made a great play. Carter lined up over the left tackle and was by him instantly and in the backfield with hands on the RB. Wouldn't mind seeing Carter over the tackle more often. Maybe shift him pre-snap to get him one on one.

The amazing thing about that play isn't the play Davis made... which was great. The amazing thing is that virtually EVERYONE won on that play.


Carter is the deepest guy in the backfield.

Davis beats his man with a swim move almost immediately.

Ojomo attacked the gap on the double team and stuffs them at the LOS, they make no forward progress.

Sydney Brown shoots the gap and meets the pulling TE and stops him dead as well.

Jalyx Hunt pushed back and is nearly as deep as Carter.

Jihaad Campbell has the edge set and he's a yard deep too.

Baun is sitting in a read and react position just beyond the sticks ready to fill whatever gap opened up.

Nolan Smith is the only guy that didn't get past the LOS, and he's in a good position to stop a bounce outside if Williams bounced it right.

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6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We crowned them before they had actually proven it. They had a great short stretch of games. They have yet to have sustained success. But, they showed way more than Kelee Ringo and people were ready to crown him as CB2 basically sight unseen.

Yep. I said this a few times this offseason. Some players can go on incredible short runs late in the post season that doesn’t necessarily mean they will keep that pace in their career growth. 2017 had Clement and Foles both play a game of their lifetime in the SB that neither came close to matching. You could argue Jeffery, Ertz, Agholor, Blount and Ajayi to some extent as well had similar great runs that were peaks of their career.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. I said this a few times this offseason. Some players can go on incredible short runs late in the post season that doesn’t necessarily mean they will keep that pace in their career growth. 2017 had Clement and Foles both play a game of their lifetime in the SB that neither came close to matching. You could argue Jeffery, Ertz, Agholor, Blount and Ajayi to some extent as well had similar great runs that were peaks of their career.

Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. I said this a few times this offseason. Some players can go on incredible short runs late in the post season that doesn’t necessarily mean they will keep that pace in their career growth. 2017 had Clement and Foles both play a game of their lifetime in the SB that neither came close to matching. You could argue Jeffery, Ertz, Agholor, Blount and Ajayi to some extent as well had similar great runs that were peaks of their career.

I think Smith is a good player. Will he ever be a 10 sack guy I don't know about that one. Hunt is developing. I definitely think we expected too much too soon there but he's solid.

I think Nolan Smith has proven more than Hunt. I think both will be good but Smith is less of a question mark.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Did we overrate Nolan Smith and Jalyx Hunt? Between the 2 of them they have 12 pressures and 1 QB hit.

It was my #1 concern with this team all offseason and I never wavered on that. Two guys who aren't completely proven. It was a big risk coming into the season shoving them into full time starting roles.

Holy crap

15 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I think Nolan Smith has proven more than Hunt. I think both will be good but Smith is less of a question mark.

Nolan does a lot well, and Hunt is only a 2nd year player - having Z tempers my concern.

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19 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I think Smith is a good player. Will he ever be a 10 sack guy I don't know about that one. Hunt is developing. I definitely think we expected too much too soon there but he's solid.

Agreed. Nolan is a good starting Edge. Hunt is a WIP. I think Ojomo also fits in that criteria between the two. It’s not that they can’t ever get to that level consistently, I just think it’s not realistic and a bit unfair to think everyone just picks up where they left off right away.

1 hour ago, Iggles25 said:

Everything I used to be able to post from my phone would go through. Now nothing does. Missed so many meme opportunities. They are now only distant meme-ories.

You probably are dying the death of a thousand cuts … all the images you have posted, whether current or historical, keep taking up pieces of that 48MB until they are deleted from the list of attachments you access from your Profile. Deleting old images from your Profile causes that image to disappear from any posts it was used in, but deleting a post with an image you embedded/uploaded does not remove that image from your Profile list. You have to do that manually.

2 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Okay, but has this been a thing for all the time Kellen Moore has been a coach? Did Dak have answers against the blitz? Did the Chargers when he was there? If not, why? People have insisted that this is the offense Jalen wants to run, so...

Are we really sure it's not just what Jalen wants to run? How is Danny Dimes doing with Steichen, and what about other variants that Reich has run?

I doubt it's that Kellen Moore doesn't know the importance of throwing hot, so...

Kellen Moore?

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I wasn't making a qualitative statement, I was asking actual questions based on the 3 years mentioned in the post I was replying to. If I was trying to make a qualitative post, I would have done all the research myself and posted the data. What I was trying to say essentially, was that if it was 3 years like the post I quoted was referring to, then what's the answer as to why?

I remember people talking about Jalen not having good hot answers last year too, but maybe they're just exaggerating?

Where your question is confusing is that of those three years you reference, Kellen Moore was only here in one of the three.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Where your question is confusing is that of those three years you reference, Kellen Moore was only here in one of the three.

That was for a reason! Kellen Moore is one of the two people who was here who had a track record to directly compare against, along with Steichen! Which is why I also talked about Danny Dimes later in the post!

Honestly, I think it's Sirianni getting too involved in the game planning/playcalling.

This is the same crap we had to put up with when Johnson was here. That mess happens, Moore comes in and it's made perfectly clear that Sirianni is taking a step back, we kill it and win the 'chip, Moore leaves, we promote the "internal candidate" who's already familiar with Hurts and everything else, they come in and we see the same problems happening all over again.

It's the one weakness this team has - they just cannot seem to find offensive stability the way the defense has with Fangio. Lucky our players are very, very good at what they do.

2 hours ago, Parrot Head said:

Everyone needs to watch this.

JT points out how they are still doing Jalen no favors in play design and pass pro design.

And Hurts is still, after 3 years, given absolutely no answers against the blitz. All receivers running vertical and not looking for the ball. Just insanity.

The players are having to overcome some pretty bad offensive coaching. Kind of infuriating, really.

Its been like that with every OC. You know who is doing no favors to the rest of the offense? The QB thats been here through it all and says the offense looks the way he wants it to look.

The Hurts stuff is such an embarrassing bit at this point.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The Hurts stuff is such an embarrassing bit at this point.

It means a lot to them, people need joy in these trying times. Let him have it

Hunt was playing safety in the Ivy League in 2021 then he played fro Houston Christian.

He has 4 career NFL starts. I'm not sure I'd call him fully developed at this point.

Next game will be Nolan Smith's 18th start.

They are already part of a nice rotation next to those beasts at DT. I don't think we've seen the best out of any of them yet.

6ers throwback black jerseys from the AI era will be going on sale tomorrow. remember the fanatics link if you pick up any new merch.

31 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

That was for a reason! Kellen Moore is one of the two people who was here who had a track record to directly compare against, along with Steichen! Which is why I also talked about Danny Dimes later in the post!

That explanation doesn’t relieve the confusion. If anything it heightens my confusion. I can’t speak for others though.

Perhaps you will help my out of my confusion by reasoning the original question.

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its been like that with every OC. You know who is doing no favors to the rest of the offense? The QB thats been here through it all and says the offense looks the way he wants it to look.

Without a dominating run game, it’s going to be interesting. More RO and called QB runs. More two read pass plays with better route spacing. Checkdowns and hots would be a nice, but never seem to make it into the gameplan.

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2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Did we overrate Nolan Smith and Jalyx Hunt? Between the 2 of them they have 12 pressures and 1 QB hit.

I don't know that many "overrated" them, in fact most people were concerned all offseason about the pass rush and replacing two starters there.

Still, it's early. This time last year everyone thought the defense was trash.

Through 3 games last year, the veteran starters Sweat and BG: 4 QB hits (3 Sweat, 1 BG). I can't find stats on QB pressures as those seem to be on paid sites. PFF has this year but to see last year you have to pay. Where do you go to find the stat on pressures? ChatGPT also couldn't find them because of the paywalls. It did say that Pressures isn't recorded as an official game stat by the league, but sites like PFF with advanced stats do.

Regarding QB hits, Pro Football Reference has Hunt with 3 QB hits this season and Smith with 1, so the total is 4...the same amount as Sweat and BG through 3 games last year.

Sweat in his 2nd year had no QB hits or sacks until his 5th game in the season. Of course many considered BG a bust for several years.

I think they knew what risks they were taking with younger guys, letting veterans go and dealing with some growing pains while other positions that are solid cover for it in the defense overall. We will have to see how they develop over the year.

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5 hours ago, austinfan said:

There is no way the Eagles are bringing back CJGJ.

They should, without question

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