5 hours ago, mattwill said:

Why was there no illegal forward pass penalty on this play?

4 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

Why was there no illegal forward pass penalty on this play?

There was a lot going on, the refs were too busy looking for taunting penalties.

5 hours ago, mattwill said:

Some film analysis on kickoffs.

I understand his point. Anyone over 30 was raised on NFL Films and all of the story telling they do, any football movie you watch and even the name of it...the kick off. We're used to seeing slow motion ball going end over end. It was a cinematic play for a century. The drama, the anticipation of the ball coming down to the KR at the 1 yard line with 10 maniacs running down the field to take his head off.

Now we have 20 players standing 5 yards apart, waiting for a knuckle ball kick to roll around. It's damn effective as we saw against the Rams, but agree 100% it's ugly, it doesn't look like it a kickoff. I can even agree that someone could get hurt. Imagine a guy fumbling around trying to pick the ball up, not looking at who's bearing down on him for a tackle and his legs aren't anywhere prepared for a hit.

I'd be interested to see how many injuries there are on KO in college compared to the NFL. College still implements a real kick off. I don't hear any complaints about it. I don't see guys being taken off the field left and right. You can argue that the NFL players are bigger and faster, but it's still the same play. Hell, BVS tore his knee up with the new kick off rules. .

The NFL needs to come to the realization that injuries happen. Football is a violent sport. That's why we so many of us love it. If the NFL cared about safety, they wouldn't have games on Thursday and Friday without a bye week before. They wouldn't make players travel across the world and adjust everything they do for an international game. They would see that grass is safer than turf and require all teams (I'm looking at you NY) to put natural grass fields in. Making sweeping changes to integral parts of the game takes so much away from what the game was and should be. I know we're past the point of no return with the push for safety and the game will never be what any of us grew to love, but these are just things a lot of us think.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Maybe you should move on from this tired schtick. Hurst is who he is and he's good enough to get to and win the SB.

btw - How'd you like that back shoulder throw for the AJ TD?

I wish people would stop quoting HE as I then inadvertently read his drivel.

33 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

Why was there no illegal forward pass penalty on this play?

I believe because it was blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage.

8 hours ago, NOTW said:

They don’t have a clear spaghetti policy.

10 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

It means a lot to them, people need joy in these trying times. Let him have it

Making yourself look mentally handicapped over and over again is certainly a choice, but hey, whatever!

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Maybe you should move on from this tired schtick. Hurst is who he is and he's good enough to get to and win the SB.

btw - How'd you like that back shoulder throw for the AJ TD?

you got jokes.

11 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Holy crap

That's why cricketers are forced to wear a grill on their batting helmet. The human face doesn't react well to a leather ball hitting it at 99 mph - not sure why you'd bunt against a pitcher that speed without face protection.

51 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

Why was there no illegal forward pass penalty on this play?

I thought the same. With the NFl focusing on rule breaks, replay assist had an open goal on a game where yardage was tight. Maybe if the ball had taunted the Rams sideline, they'd have noticed.

11 hours ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Honestly, I think it's Sirianni getting too involved in the game planning/playcalling.

This is the same crap we had to put up with when Johnson was here. That mess happens, Moore comes in and it's made perfectly clear that Sirianni is taking a step back, we kill it and win the 'chip, Moore leaves, we promote the "internal candidate" who's already familiar with Hurts and everything else, they come in and we see the same problems happening all over again.

It's the one weakness this team has - they just cannot seem to find offensive stability the way the defense has with Fangio. Lucky our players are very, very good at what they do.

Maybe it's just Steichen and Moore were good. Brian Johnson and Patullo are bad (at least so far)

I dont think its fair to just say when the offense is struggling that Sirianni must be involved but when the offense is playing well he must be not involved.

Way too early on Patullo.

Game 1 - scores on all possessions before lightning

Game 2 - not good but Spags is a great DC and they have a very good D

Game 3 - score then a mess after Lane goes out (which has happened often in past) then good with Fred Johnson

Now we're about to face Tampa who none of our OCs has done well against and then a tough Denver D. That's not an excuse for non performance but we need a reasonable body of work until bye to see where he stands.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Way too early on Patullo.

Game 1 - scores on all possessions before lightning

Game 2 - not good but Spags is a great DC and they have a very good D

Game 3 - score then a mess after Lane goes out (which has happened often in past) then good with Fred Johnson

Now we're about to face Tampa who none of our OCs has done well against and then a tough Denver D. That's not an excuse for non performance but we need a reasonable body of work until bye to see where he stands.

Eagles struggled to start the season last year before they found their identity.

Jury is still out on Patullo. What I think stands out most about this team, and not just this year, is that they seem to adjust really well at halftime. Anytime watching an Eagles game, as long as the score is close at half there is a very good chance the Eagles will win.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Jury is still out on Patullo. What I think stands out most about this team, and not just this year, is that they seem to adjust really well at halftime. Anytime watching an Eagles game, as long as the score is close at half there is a very good chance the Eagles will win.

I think the defense adjusts really well… I’m not so sure the offense does? They did on Sunday because they had no choice and not changing would have been throwing the towel in. Against Dallas the offense stalled in the second half (especially after the weather break). Against KC it kind of spluttered all game.

1 hour ago, Han Solo said:

Why was there no illegal forward pass penalty on this play?

It was a legal play. The blocked kick went behind the LOS, which means the kicking team can run it, pass it, or even kick it again. He took the ball and used a shovel pass, which went beyond the LOS, and there was a player in the area. There may be a question about whether that person was eligible, but considering it was thrown on the right-hand side of the line, there is an argument that the person at the end of the line was the eligible receiver.

It looks sloppy, but it was legal.

6 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Eagles struggled to start the season last year before they found their identity.

Jury is still out on Patullo. What I think stands out most about this team, and not just this year, is that they seem to adjust really well at halftime. Anytime watching an Eagles game, as long as the score is close at half there is a very good chance the Eagles will win.

this can't be stated enough. we were discussing this very fact during 1/2 time. this team makes great adjustments to start 2nd halves. minus the fumble and easy td to start the 3rd quarter, they turned the game completely around on offense and defense.

28 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Way too early on Patullo.

Game 1 - scores on all possessions before lightning

Game 2 - not good but Spags is a great DC and they have a very good D

Game 3 - score then a mess after Lane goes out (which has happened often in past) then good with Fred Johnson

Now we're about to face Tampa who none of our OCs has done well against and then a tough Denver D. That's not an excuse for non performance but we need a reasonable body of work until bye to see where he stands.

The scores in Game 1 were a lot of Hurts scrambling on broken plays so I don't really even look at that as a success for Patullo.

yeah, but some of those broken plays were a result of him missing an open receiver and holding the ball too long.

They need to give Clint Hurtt a whole bunch of money and a fancy fake title

I think Patullo deserves criticism mostly for play design so far. As shown, he's not giving Hurts outlets against the blitz. Eerily similar to Brian Johnson.

Where I'll give him some grace is that I have no problem with him coming in to this season and trying to continue the magic with the run game.

But now that we're getting more evidence of how teams plan to play us, he has to show that he can adjust to their adjustments.

If he keeps running in to a wall on 1st down, then I'll quickly lose confidence.

5 hours ago, T-1000 said:

He might not have any other options than to go somewhere and be a role player. With the Eagles he could play some safety, maybe some slot as well with Dejean on the outside. Obviously that would all have to be worked out and discussed ahead of time. Either way the dude is running out of options in this league and the Eagles are the only organization where he seems to work.

Are the Eagles a football team or a home for the aged and infirm? You seem to be advocating for the latter rather than the former.

What is it about the Safety play in the first three games that you object to enough to believe CJGJ would be an improvement?

43 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

It was a legal play. The blocked kick went behind the LOS, which means the kicking team can run it, pass it, or even kick it again. He took the ball and used a shovel pass, which went beyond the LOS, and there was a player in the area. There may be a question about whether that person was eligible, but considering it was thrown on the right-hand side of the line, there is an argument that the person at the end of the line was the eligible receiver.

It looks sloppy, but it was legal.

Would it then be considered an incomplete forward pas and the ball is placed at the original LOS? Of course. The penalty on Carter negated that.

4 hours ago, Parrot Head said:

Not watching the video is the willful ignorance.

No. It is prejudgment. The video,presents evidence that doesn’t support HE’s long held personal animus toward Hurts.

Lol would be funny if he doesn't get a sack

11 hours ago, NOTW said:

I don't know that many "overrated" them, in fact most people were concerned all offseason about the pass rush and replacing two starters there.

Still, it's early. This time last year everyone thought the defense was trash.

Through 3 games last year, the veteran starters Sweat and BG: 4 QB hits (3 Sweat, 1 BG). I can't find stats on QB pressures as those seem to be on paid sites. PFF has this year but to see last year you have to pay. Where do you go to find the stat on pressures? ChatGPT also couldn't find them because of the paywalls. It did say that Pressures isn't recorded as an official game stat by the league, but sites like PFF with advanced stats do.

Regarding QB hits, Pro Football Reference has Hunt with 3 QB hits this season and Smith with 1, so the total is 4...the same amount as Sweat and BG through 3 games last year.

Sweat in his 2nd year had no QB hits or sacks until his 5th game in the season. Of course many considered BG a bust for several years.

I think they knew what risks they were taking with younger guys, letting veterans go and dealing with some growing pains while other positions that are solid cover for it in the defense overall. We will have to see how they develop over the year.

Yup and the Defense was trash the first few games last year, remember the Atlanta game where they couldn't stop them on that last drive for love nor money, we made Kirk Cousins look like Dan Marino.

We always look rusty the first few games. We start slow, Hazleton posts about QB1 being the issue, everyone else ****es about the pass rush or secondary and life goes on, end of the day under Sirianni we've won 2 NFC Championships in 3 years, maybe wait a few more games before we declare the season and roster a total loss.