Sirianni and Patullo keep talking about the offense needing to be aggressive. Sirianni said it again after yesterday's game. I think they have to get aggressive with scheme. One thing we have definitely learned that even really good players can't make plays if the defense knows what is coming. Our 3 offensive TDs are perfect examples of that concept. The two Goedert TDs fooled the defense- the Barkley TD did as well. Time to have our pass patterns do the same.

Dotson has 7 targets through the first 4 games. I know they historically don’t use their #3 WR but they need to get him involved more. He can be a contributor.

5 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Dotson has 7 targets through the first 4 games. I know they historically don’t use their #3 WR but they need to get him involved more. He can be a contributor.

Dotson, Metchie, Shipley and Bigsby all bring something to the table, but this OC has zero creativity. I'm still trying to figure out what that 5 yard behind the LOS pass to Saquon was. Or the 3 straight 10 yard hook patterns that AJ ran which took a whole 15 seconds off the clock.

Talk about a tale of two halves. That was probably the worst 2nd half of offensive football I've ever had the displeasure of watching in my life. My eyes are still burning from it.

The offense and Patullo were very creative and effective in the first half and they got outcoached and outplayed in the 2nd half. Both are true

I need to find the Barkley clip as well, but saw on NBC Sports Philly post-game he was saying the same thing about not caring about individual stats, but winning. That's the culture. And despite AJ Brown's frustration, he also has said winning the game is what matters most.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

AJ Brown last 8 games: 37 rec 314 yds 3td 8.5 ypc

This is post decline Alshon Jeffery territory.

I’m telling you…he’s not the same.

He’s been open, they just didn’t get him the ball. But Devonta hasn’t been much better, he had zero targets in the entire 2nd half. This issue isn’t just AJ Brown. These are young guys they’re fine, this is all bad play design and route combinations.

I think everyone is forgetting Hurts looked concussed after that hit he took where the refs picked up the flag. The offense looked completely different after that.

The run game isn't working because teams are still focusing on shutting it down and forcing them to pass, and the O line has too many nagging injuries. Dickerson rushed back and wasn't ready, Mailata got a little banged up in week 1, Lane at his age struggles with injuries from time to time, Steen is getting used to starting, Cam still nursing back injury from last year, Pryor sucked at RT before Fred saved the day. They should rest the injured starters, if not this week then for the Giants game. Get them healthy.

And the pass game is bipolar: at times capable of big plays and making it almost look easy, and other times they look completely inept. Patullo calls the game too conservative and then when the players push for more and they need it, they ball out. In this game, they came out creative, scored, had a good lead and then played scared.

Where's the aggressive play calling like in the playoffs?

Then they force it to AJ several times in a row instead of just running the offense naturally. Like a 3rd and 2 play that took too long to develop. AJ has a man one-on-one. A quick slant inside is a 1st down all day.

Seems like a lot of stretches of seasons under Sirianni, the team can't put 4 quarters of football together, it's been a complaint every year. We know they're capable, they are their own worst enemy. The only team that they truly need to worry about is themselves.

Throwback. Good times.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

This is where I defend Patullo and where people don’t realize how easy Kellen Moore had it last year. The entire premise of their offense last year was that teams knew it was coming and still couldn’t stop it. And then we’d surprise someone and actually throw the ball. They telegraphed run plays between the tackles and it just worked spectacularly.

Now, it doesn’t even work against soft fronts that are playing the pass on 3rd and long. The interior OL has been abysmal at opening holes AND Barkley is going down on first contact.

I’m not trying to hitch myself to the Patullo train here…but Kellen Moore wasn’t doing anything special. They ran. Everyone knew they were going to run. And it worked anyway. Now the running game sucks. The pass attack is designed to be low volume, efficient, opportunistic, simple route concepts, and short of the sticks. These have been longstanding tenets of this offense for years. This isn’t a Patullo thing.

It suddenly stopped working because the OL suddenly stopped blocking.

I totally agree that the entire OL isn't playing to the level of last season. But...they aren't calling the same variety of runs as they did last season. Where is the pin-pull, the counter, the counter bash??

I am starting to suspect the Sirianni and Patullo are limiting the offense to compensate for the weaker OL.

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Please live forever.

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Adoree is also awful at tackling and has been worse in coverage

Stop complaining after a win

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He’s been open, they just didn’t get him the ball. But Devonta hasn’t been much better, he had zero targets in the entire 2nd half. This issue isn’t just AJ Brown. These are young guys they’re fine, this is all bad play design and route combinations.

....which have been basically the same for four seasons.

46 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dotson, Metchie, Shipley and Bigsby all bring something to the table, but this OC has zero creativity. I'm still trying to figure out what that 5 yard behind the LOS pass to Saquon was. Or the 3 straight 10 yard hook patterns that AJ ran which took a whole 15 seconds off the clock.

You do realize that Hurts checks into and out of plays, calls the protections, and decides where the ball goes.

Also, the guys on the other side are trying to win the game as well.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

....which have been basically the same for four seasons.

Yes, in all Devonta and AJ's years here, neither have gotten their production by being wide open all over the place, that's just not what this offense is. Every season the metrics for Hurts have his completions among the most difficult, because this Eagles offense simply doesn't scheme guys wide open. Many of AJ and Devonta's catches are contested every year. AJ's big plays are usually deep balls where he beats the defender by just a step, but he's bigger and stronger and has great ball skills and Hurts has a great deep ball. They just haven't been able to connect on those this year. For anyone. The only person who they seem to be able to scheme open is Goedert. The most open plays so far this season have been Goedert and last year as well, like that mesh play vs the Saints where he was wide open.

I agree with Jimmy, I think comparing this team to the 2023 Eagles isn't the right comparison. I actually think it's the 2024 Chiefs. I'm sure Chiefs fans were having these debates last season. "We're barely winning games, this isn't sustainable guys." Countered by "Dude, all they do is win and that's all that matters." And it was enough for them... until the Super Bowl where they finally went up against a team that could expose their flaws and they got romped.

I don't think this Eagles team is going to have some epic collapse this season. But I do think they're primed to get their asses kicked if they go up against the wrong opponent and don't show up for an entire half of football.

10 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

And this is why I drafted Dak in fantasy. Decent QB. Good weapons. ZERO run game and Defense.

They have a run game Javonte has been killing it for my fantasy

18 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I think everyone is forgetting Hurts looked concussed after that hit he took where the refs picked up the flag. The offense looked completely different after that.

I thought were 3rd parties in the booth because what happened to stopping the game for that hit

How about some pre snap motion? Would it hurt to move guys around before and after the snap or do they just prefer the same play running in up the middle on 1st for no gain?

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

"It’s going to look how Jalen Hurts wants it to look, but he’s gonna win."

4 minutes ago, RICWOOFLAIR said:

They have a run game Javonte has been killing it for my fantasy

They are 12th in the league rushing after last night, avg 123/game. At one point last night JW was avg 4.8/carry, finished with 4.3/carry.

Offensively DAL is ok, the defense will be the downfall this year. Cannot continue to put the ball in Daks hands on last minute drives and expect him to not turn it over.