18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Top 10 commercial of all-time

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

The counterpoint would be that we've seen this offense excel (2022 and parts of 2024) with certain play callers (Steichen and Moore) and struggle with others. If the playbook was all crap and the play caller were irrelevant, then we wouldn't see a wide variety in outcomes like this. The drastic improvement when Nick handed over play calling in 2021 is evidence of this.

Even if you think the OC has no input on the play book and design (which I don't think is correct as things have evolved since 2021), the play caller has clearly had an impact.

To be fair, I think the line play is the biggest issue so far this year.

In 2023 the turnover rate spiked from 10% in 2022 to 15%. Also, the offense's struggles of 2023 are overblown. They ended up top ten in yards gained. It was the turnovers that killed them.

In 2025 the Oline isn't anywhere near the dominance they showed in 2024. That was Moore's super power. Barkley was regularly untouched through the LOS. It's easier breaking a DB tackle than a DT tackle. Until the Oline starts performing, this will be a pedestrian offense.

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

Why not just use Steichen's passing concepts? Both Smith and Brown were 1,000+ yard receivers under him with Hurts as the QB. Seems like a simple solution.

They are the same. It's been mostly the same for four seasons.

Eagles are very unimaginative on offense and think they can play straight up with anyone and not have to bother with innovation or cleverness. I was almost shocked when they ran the the alternate play for the tush push.

Would like to see more:

Screen plays

RPO

Goedert down the middle (also loved the shuffle passes last week at goal line)

AJ post routes at least 3-4 times a game.

AJ Slants to put ball in hands for RAC

Sweep/gadget type plays

Hurry up offense

And just overall unpredictability and keeping the opposing defense on their toes.

With all of that, play calling seems to be on the mark when it comes to Red Zone play calling.

Overall, team identity points to needing to set up the run with the pass. Involve SB that way and get ball into his hands.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

last year the oline was routinely knocking dlines backwards and barkley wasn't touched until he got to or beyond the linebackers. this season the oline is getting pushed around and barkley is getting hit in the backfield too many times.

these players and stoutland didn't suddenly start to suck. injuries are killing them right now.

Injuries and the fact that Steen is no Becton. When it comes to PUSH, Becton was a punisher... he bullied defenders and made them look for a soft place to lie down. Steen is much more of a guy who walls off his assignment, he doesn't redefine the LOS. Dickerson likely wouldn't be playing if he wasn't a crazy gamer. It got us a NFC CG win last year, but that gamer mentality might actually be hurting the team more than helping right now. He might need to sit down in order to get healthy enough to handle the second half of the season.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

His quotes gave me the same impression, but then I thought, its probably/hopefully just coach speak. He's not going to give us the nuts and bolts of what went wrong and how they'll fix it. Vague answers are expected, often shrouded in positivity which comes off as naivety.

Input: Hurts throws better out of spread looks, Saquon runs better out of 11 personnel, AJB/Devonta are possibly the best WR duo in the league, traded a 3rd round pick for Dotson, Calcaterra can’t block.

Patullo puts his peewee thinking cap on…

Output: Condensed looks, 12 personnel half the time, give up runs on 58% of 3rd and longs. Calcaterra consistently asked to make blocks he can’t make.

Calling Patullo a ***** is insulting to dipshits

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles have actually used motion at a higher rate this season than last season, they just haven't utilized it well. I don't think the play calling is the main issue, I think it's the play design. Unless you think the playbook is loaded with all these great plays that Patullo is just willfully ignoring.

On the play before the fake Tush Push, they ran Dillon in motion from right to left. It caused the Bucs to shift their LBs, leaving the space behind their DTs unoccupied. We ran a QB draw right into that void for a nice gain.

You can't just blame the OC because a play doesn't work. IMO, player execution, especially the run blocking from the OL and TEs, have been the major issue.

1 hour ago, aptosbird said:

I am wondering if a possible solution is to put Patullo up in the press box. I think he needs to get a different perspective.

At this point, it couldn't hurt. Maybe he'd see that the middle of the defense is where all the defenders are and stop trying to bully his way through there when his OGs aren't what they were last year.

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

On the play before the fake Tush Push, they ran Dillon in motion from right to left. It caused the Bucs to shift their LBs, leaving the space behind their DTs unoccupied. We ran a QB draw right into that void for a nice gain.

You can't just blame the OC because a play doesn't work. IMO, player execution, especially the run blocking from the OL and TEs, have been the major issue.

I think that's a big part of it, but when you have two games in a row where you can't even get the ball to mid field and one game with zero passing yards in an entire half, I think it's everything adding up. But people are only blaming Patullo. And I knew this was going to happen before the season started. They are coming off a Super Bowl and he's the new guy, so he will get the blame if something goes poorly. And honestly, even if it turns out after the season Patullo is some historically awful OC, then that is still on Sirianni for demanding his boy be hired when you know damn well Howie and Lurie would've wanted an outside voice as they usually always do.

9 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Eagles are very unimaginative on offense and think they can play straight up with anyone and not have to bother with innovation or cleverness. I was almost shocked when they ran the the alternate play for the tush push.

Would like to see more:

Screen plays

RPO

Goedert down the middle (also loved the shuffle passes last week at goal line)

AJ post routes at least 3-4 times a game.

AJ Slants to put ball in hands for RAC

Sweep/gadget type plays

Hurry up offense

And just overall unpredictability and keeping the opposing defense on their toes.

With all of that, play calling seems to be on the mark when it comes to Red Zone play calling.

The absolute most boring, predictable and vanilla offense I've ever seen. Andy Reid did everything he could to get the most out of James Thrash, Todd Pinkston, Correll Buckhalter, Chad Lewis, Greg Lewis etc. He strapped on as many turbos as he could to a 4 cylinder engine.

The Eagles have a supercharged V8 that hums at 8,000 RPM and they barely rev it over 3,000.

A proper coach would have this offense running laps around teams.

13 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Eagles are very unimaginative on offense and think they can play straight up with anyone and not have to bother with innovation or cleverness. I was almost shocked when they ran the the alternate play for the tush push.

Would like to see more:

Screen plays

RPO

Goedert down the middle (also loved the shuffle passes last week at goal line)

AJ post routes at least 3-4 times a game.

AJ Slants to put ball in hands for RAC

Sweep/gadget type plays

Hurry up offense

And just overall unpredictability and keeping the opposing defense on their toes.

With all of that, play calling seems to be on the mark when it comes to Red Zone play calling.

The Hurts picks from 2023 is blown way out of proportion.

He had 3 in the Jets game and 2 in the Seahawks game.

In the other 15 games he had 10. Josh Allen had 18 picks that year and 47 from 2021-23.

Now if you take away the last pick from the Jets and Seattle game then maybe they are 13-3 with a bye and don't look so bad in the divisional home game.

Hurts threw those picks so its on him but pretending he was a turnover machine is stupid.

Its more accurate to say he was not at his normal HoF level of protecting the ball.

Hurts was in the MVP race after 11 games of 2023. He was 5-0 in 1 score games where the other team had 23+

He did that with a bad D and no scheme answer for pressure. (Burrow is 6-12 for his career)

Then the 49ers and Cowboys back to back crushed the entire organization. Hurts had 0 picks and 1 lost fumble in those 2.

He pressed too much the rest of the way. He learned from it.

I'm really encouraged hearing Vic talk about Ringo. We know he was poor at tackling, but to hear him describe why he thinks so means they can help coach him up to be a better tackler. Also to hear him say he will only get better tells me that he's CB2 moving forward, as he should be.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

At this point, it couldn't hurt. Maybe he'd see that the middle of the defense is where all the defenders are and stop trying to bully his way through there when his OGs aren't what they were last year.

Are we sure about that? One of the team Captains and starting LT just said it's taking too long to get the plays in and something he's going to address. Moving the play caller to the press box seems counterintuitive.

Not sure what happened to Hughlett. Never saw him get hurt.

19 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles have actually used motion at a higher rate this season than last season, they just haven't utilized it well. I don't think the play calling is the main issue, I think it's the play design. Unless you think the playbook is loaded with all these great plays that Patullo is just willfully ignoring.

He said at one point about two weeks ago..when asked about all these concerns…that new plays were going to be implemented in the near future which threw up big red flags for me…is he actually intentionally withholding parts of the playbook for some future game…if true, that is insane.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not sure what happened to Hughlett. Never saw him get hurt.

What the crap?

6'2" and 238lbs seems small for a LS.

Kinda surprised they didn't sign the guy they brought in during the summer.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not sure what happened to Hughlett. Never saw him get hurt.

He had the neck thing in TC. Probably doesn't help he's 35 either

For as good as the defense is playing, they have a ways to go. 5 sacks in 4 games is bad. No sacks from your edge rushers or Jalen Carter. Only 16 QB hits.

Where's the pressure?

59 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I think it would be funny if Nick started a trend where he doesn’t use the push against coaches who bend the knee and support the play like Bowles did. They didn’t use it once against Tampa.

But they did bait them by lining up for it and making them look like fools with the fake and run by Barkley. And they really only had that one opportunity to it. So, I don't know that it was a specific decision.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

For as good as the defense is playing, they have a ways to go. 5 sacks in 4 games is bad. No sacks from your edge rushers or Jalen Carter. Only 16 QB hits.

Where's the pressure?

Think they will come in bunches once they break the seal. Last year, they didn't get hot til the 2nd half of season. This team really needs the bye for a lot of guys to get right!

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Are we sure about that? One of the team Captains and starting LT just said it's taking too long to get the plays in and something he's going to address. Moving the play caller to the press box seems counterintuitive.

Does the radio signal coming from upstairs really impact that? I think him seeing where the previous play ends from upstairs might actually help to speed him up.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Does he even have a place there? Smael Mondon, Jeremiah Trotter and Patrick Johnson are the leading LB's on ST's and not sure Dean off a patellar deserves to be over them.

Is the practice window only 4 weeks… what’s the hurry?