10 hours ago10 hr 2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:Man, just STFU AJ.Yeah i get his contract is what it is and difficult to deal away. But might be seeing him play his last year here.
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, Swoop said:Sorry, misread. 0-8 against the spread when he's at least a 7 point favorite.Ok, that makes WAY more sense but was too lazy to look up our schedule last year.
10 hours ago10 hr 3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:I made this point last year when the offense was having his issues with Kellen Moore. Part of it was on Moore and part of this was on hurts. How much of each you can divvy up it doesn’t really make a difference to me. But it’s not one or the other. It doesn’t have to be 100% one and 0 for the other. It could be both of them as Pattulo is not doing a good enough job. His lack of experience is showing up and the play calling is predictable like lane said. And Jalen hurts has not played well for the entirety of a game this entire season. I could throw some other people in this too like the offensive line has not played well this year. Like the only person on offense that’s consistently played well is goedertHurts has had a reliable run game his whole career. No matter how bad it’s ever gotten, we’ve never had major issues running the ball.Yeah Dickerson is hurt, but I’m not writing off the entire OL just because we only have 3 All Pro types instead of 4.That’s the real indictment on Patullo. This offense will never be anything if we can’t run the ball, and he just has the worst feel for it I’ve ever seen anyone have.
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Yeah i get his contract is what it is and difficult to deal away. But might be seeing him play his last year here.AJ just throwing gasoline on the fire and tomorrow everyone will blame the media
10 hours ago10 hr Eagles second half drives this year:#32 in points/drive (1.4)#32 in scores/drive (24%)#32 in drives to reach red zone (15%)#31 in punt rate (53%, avg = 33%)#31 in yards/drive (21 yds)#29 in 3-and-out rate (47%)#32 in EPA/play (-0.18)#31 in yards/play (3.1)Sorry, but this is a coaching stat, not a QB stat.
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:Hurts has had a reliable run game his whole career. No matter how bad it’s ever gotten, we’ve never had major issues running the ball.Yeah Dickerson is hurt, but I’m not writing off the entire OL just because we only have 3 All Pro types instead of 4.That’s the real indictment on Patullo. This offense will never be anything if we can’t run the ball, and he just has the worst feel for it I’ve ever seen anyone have.The film grinders have talked relentlessly about nothing in this offense seems married, that it’s all fragments thrown in a bucket and picked out one by one. The best offenses have plays dressed up to look the same as bread and butter pass/runs. They use motion with purpose. We don’t. There seeks to be little sequencing. The Giants ran three or four run plays that are more creative than anything we’ve done all year. The passing concepts are incredibly vanilla.
10 hours ago10 hr 3 minutes ago, Swoop said:Hurts 35th in completion rate when throwing 10 or more yards down field.Reddit says he's a hall of famer, are you absolutely positively undeniably sure he's not? Super duper positive?
10 hours ago10 hr I just think AJ Brown is deflecting because he doesn't want to get asked follow up questions about it. The fact that AJ Brown met with Hurts tells me that the relationship isn't one where they don't or can't talk to one another. This all gets fixed when if/when the offense starts producing. That's how you solve everyone being miserable. Not being best friends. Not kumbaya.
10 hours ago10 hr 11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:This looks great after Hurts and Barkley already confirmed it happened!Damn...just wow.
10 hours ago10 hr 5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:Eagles second half drives this year:#32 in points/drive (1.4)#32 in scores/drive (24%)#32 in drives to reach red zone (15%)#31 in punt rate (53%, avg = 33%)#31 in yards/drive (21 yds)#29 in 3-and-out rate (47%)#32 in EPA/play (-0.18)#31 in yards/play (3.1)Sorry, but this is a coaching stat, not a QB stat.Both can contribute, pinning it only on one or the other when it's so bad is usually incorrect.
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:Hurts has had a reliable run game his whole career. No matter how bad it’s ever gotten, we’ve never had major issues running the ball.Yeah Dickerson is hurt, but I’m not writing off the entire OL just because we only have 3 All Pro types instead of 4.That’s the real indictment on Patullo. This offense will never be anything if we can’t run the ball, and he just has the worst feel for it I’ve ever seen anyone have.Believe some of the running issues goes back to the fact, they aren’t healthy. also i don’t think patullo does a great job at being 1 step ahead of the defense or building on plays unless it’s in the red zone.last year at the end of the year I said if you expect to go and win another Super Bowl just replicating what you did this year it is very unlikely. It was unconventional that the Eagles won the Super Bowl in the fashion they did. Not so much the last two games of the year but leading up to it throughout the course of the year. They did it but their passing game was 30th and felt like it might have been the worst some weeks last year even with all the talent they had. It is very hard to win super bowls banking on a super efficient passing game an historic running game every year. It was very unlikely to be able to replicate that. Imo they had to become a better passing team to make up for the fact their running game was going to regress. Add on because we don’t watch the other teams as closely that had 2000 yard rushers, we always just assumed the running back regressed. But I bet if we went and watched those teams we would notice that their offensive line probably also took a major hit and regressed. Which is what I think you’re seeing with the Eagles.
10 hours ago10 hr Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:Both can contribute, pinning it only on one or the other when it's so bad is usually incorrect.Of course there’s some blame for Hurts amd the rest of the team, but to fall apart that much tells me that offense isn’t making the right adjustments to the other teams’ adjustments. The difference is too stark IMO.
10 hours ago10 hr 19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:I’m watching the GI Joe PSA’a to get through this nightAs kids we never questioned why these adult military men were stalking children, peeping in their windows and all. 😂
10 hours ago10 hr Just now, Sack that QB said:I just think AJ Brown is deflecting because he doesn't want to get asked follow up questions about it. The fact that AJ Brown met with Hurts tells me that the relationship is where they don't talk to one another. This all gets fixed when if/when the offense starts producing. That's how you solve everyone being miserable. Not being best friends. Not kumbaya.Barkley, Hurts and Sirianni put out the script. It was "we all get together and are looking for solutions to continue to get better,” head coach Nick Sirianni said.Brown knows what he’s doing and it’s beyond stupid to not just quote the company line and then say "I’m not talking anymore about it”
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Believe some of the running issues goes back to the fact, they aren’t healthy. also i don’t think patullo does a great job at being 1 step ahead of the defense or building on plays unless it’s in the red zone.last year at the end of the year I said if you expect to go and win another Super Bowl just replicating what you did this year it is very unlikely. It was unconventional that the Eagles won the Super Bowl in the fashion they did. Not so much the last two games of the year but leading up to it throughout the course of the year. They did it but their passing game was 30th and felt like it might have been the worst some weeks last year even with all the talent they had. It is very hard to win super bowls banking on a super efficient passing game an historic running game every year. It was very unlikely to be able to replicate that. Imo they had to become a better passing team to make up for the fact their running game was going to regress.Add on because we don’t watch the other teams as closely that had 2000 yard rushers, we always just assumed the running back regressed. But I bet if we went and watched those teams we would notice that their offensive line probably also took a major hit and regressed. Which is what I think you’re seeing with the Eagles.We were running 8 minute closeout drives with Miles Sanders and Kenny Gainwell before AJ even got here. I refuse to believe this team can’t field a competent run game. Just no.
10 hours ago10 hr 5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:The film grinders have talked relentlessly about nothing in this offense seems married, that it’s all fragments thrown in a bucket and picked out one by one. The best offenses have plays dressed up to look the same as bread and butter pass/runs. They use motion with purpose. We don’t. There seeks to be little sequencing. The Giants ran three or four run plays that are more creative than anything we’ve done all year. The passing concepts are incredibly vanilla.I was gonna say something similar. It feels like they’re just picking plays from the playbook and they don’t build upon them until they get into the red zone. The funny thing is is when they get inside the red zone that’s when they get creative. And that’s when they seem to be building on things that they’ve done either in the past or earlier in the game. Which to me usually you have the opposite problem. Because the field condenses you’re not as good in the red zone as between the 20s
10 hours ago10 hr 3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:I’m glad they are owning that.Horrible effort. And a lack of wanting to be the most physical team. Very disappointing
10 hours ago10 hr 1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:We were running 8 minute closeout drives with Miles Sanders and Kenny Gainwell before AJ even got here. I refuse to believe this team can’t field a competent run game. Just no.You can refuse to believe it. But those teams were not nearly as reliant on the run as last year. Eagles were a smash mouth run first team that there was weeks where we didn’t even want to throw it. The offense had a 30th ranked pass game (even the previous 3 years it was better than that with a worse run game) and Barkley by years end had over 400+ Carries. That doesn’t even include the fact that they ran the Tush push as much as they did last year. So now you’ve had the accumulation of last year‘s historic running game, run dominant offense, now what 3 years of the tush push on those guys bodies and accumulation of 4 straight years of making the playoffs and playing an extra 9 games.Do i think patullo is an issue? Yes. he’s not absolved. I agree I don’t think he’s qualified to do the job yet. He doesn’t have any experience and you’re asking him to just be a good offensive coordinator as he’s never called plays for a Super Bowl or bust team. Also playing extra game per season now and the eagles have played at least 1 postseason game the last 4 years. Add on 4 extra last year to make 21 games. At some point in time when you play that much football and you’re that physical of a running team it’s gonna take a toll on the human body. You might not recover to what you were even with an entire offseason.I thought it was pretty telling when Jordan mailata talked about this off-season and not feeling good months after the Super Bowl. Especially when he discussed other seasons, including the previous Super Bowl season, he was good after like a month. That should be a huge red flag when he is saying that. I think some of your guys are worn down from last year still. Also Dickerson has his injuries and jurgens is coming back from major back surgery. As somebody who’s dealing with a back injury currently and had it occur back in March it still a pain for me and still in PT. And he had major surgery to his back and is playing football at the highest level.
10 hours ago10 hr Just now, LeanMeanGM said:Barkley, Hurts and Sirianni put out the script. It was "we all get together and are looking for solutions to continue to get better,” head coach Nick Sirianni said.Brown knows what he’s doing and it’s beyond stupid to not just quote the company line and then say "I’m not talking anymore about it”I don't think what he said he a negative comment though. It's one that will generate talk, but it's a deflection more than anything. It's not like he took a shot at his teammates. This is just who AJ is and we are going to have to deal with it. He's emotional guy who's a bit of an oddball and he reads books on the sidelines and posts pictures on social media and answers questions oddly. It is what it is, it's part of the AJ Brown experience. You just learn to deal with it. People can continue to talk about it every week if they want, but my stance remains wake me up when he starts trashing his teammates and coaches. Until then it could be far far worse and we've all experienced far far worse as fans over the years.
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