1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Steichen is interesting, as he took over after Siri fired himself for running a pass heavy offense. He went much more run heavy, RPO and a ton of Jalen running around (no hot routes then either).

Brian Johnson tried to pickup where Steichen left off and leaned into the RPO, but defenses learned how to defense it better and generated more turnovers - our defense got worn out and the season spiraled.

Moore comes in and installs his ideas. After a few games, there’s the OL revolt and he scraps his approach and goes ultra run heavy with the pass game being a supplement.

Patullo comes in and tries Moore’s ultra conservative approach but the OL isn’t nearly as good, and is branded as a ****.

At this point the RPO offense is the best bet, but I’m not sure why we should expect much better results than when Brian Johnson was in charge as the OL is worse and again our defense is getting worn down carrying the team.

Great summary.

As always, handcuffed by the QB.

If we don’t right the ship on these next two games serious hell is coming

21 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I had a call this week with a client in England and it's funny, he said no one gives an ish about American football outside the select few that go to the games. They don't understand why it's being forced on them so much He said that the fans in Ireland are even more against it.

@UK Eagle maybe you can shed some light on if that's a common thought?

In short, he's talking bollocks.

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The NFL has grown organically over here and has taken 20+ years to get to this place and be sustainable. Its not being forced on anyone, but has more mainstream exposure than ever because there is demand for it. Channel 5 (owned by Paramount) are now showing a live game on a Sunday evening (the coverage is absolutely cringe AF) and broadcast the UK and Ireland games live. But in general, you need to go find highlights etc and it doesn't really hit the mainstream news. The Ashes in Australia (starting next month) will get a lot more media coverage.

In comparison, Female team sports (Football, Cricket, Rugby etc) are absolutely being forced on us like a Goose being fattened for foie gras. We get numerous WSL games a weekend in their season,, the media talk it up like its peak sport etc; but in reality some of it is good ,but a lot is really not that much of a TV spectacle. In comparison, 4 or 5 Sunday afternoon live games on free to air TV, 18 regular seasons games, playoffs and some radio coverage on a Sunday evening is not erroneous in the slightest. If it was, no one would watch it.

Historically, the NFL has ebbed and flow in popularity over here since the mid 1980s but notbaly, the MLB and NBA have tried to get the same level of buzz, but it never quite catches on in the same way.

7 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Mahomes gets two hand touched, flops to the ground and seven flags come out. Branch gets an illegal crackback block in front of an official and there's a shoulder shrug.

One quiet trade that could be done is for OG cover. CB may be a more obvious need, but the impact on IOL of having someone who can set the tone, would make a visible impact.

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Great summary.

As always, handcuffed by the QB.

Frankly, I don't even dislike Jalen all that much on paper, but I'm really getting tired of Sirianni catching slander because Jalen cannot run a traditional NFL offense. Do I think Sirianni is some incredible offensive mind? Nope, I think he's average.

But average doesn't mean trash. What can MAKE you appear like trash however, is when you're average, but have to completely throw your blueprint in a blender because the QB you did not pick, but the FO has been married to, cannot run a traditional NFL scheme, so you have to scramble to create crap that works.

1 hour ago, Nivraga said:

BS.. He made Steichen look so bad as an MVP candidate. Teams don't win as much as they have with Hurts despite the QB. Sorry, but you obviously refuse to see past your hate.

They both have severe cases of H.D.S. Not sure either one of them can be treated at this point. Best to isolate them and leave them be.

5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

One quiet trade that could be done is for OG cover. CB may be a more obvious need, but the impact on IOL of having someone who can set the tone, would make a visible impact.

Agree and Howie has the picks to do both.

This won't be popular but I'd try to trade Steen and a pick for MB.

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

We have more instances of Hurts causing a carousel than succeeding, this is why we have constant OC changes. Try to remember what's actually been said

I remember exactly what you said, you said you didn't care who the OC was because they'd be doomed to be handcuffed to Hurts. But when you actually take an objective view of things, that couldn't be farther from the truth for Steichen and Moore.

At this point it's pretty obvious you're just throwing ish against a wall and hoping it sticks. Having 2 of your OCs get promoted to HC is not causing a carousel because of poor play. That's completely nonsensical. The fact remains, to date only one oh his OCs has been fired, and it's because he wasn't a good OC.

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Are you really sure that the ones that were hired immediately are only competent

Once again, to date, only Brian Johnson has been fired as OC, and he's currently the passing game coordinator for the Commanders. If he were also a competent OC, we'd see him work his way back up to position coach and then OC, and then would have to lead an offense to some level of success. Maybe he'll get there, maybe you have faith that he will, but I don't based on what I saw on the field two years ago. We'll find out at some point if Brian Johnson is or isn't a competent offensive mind.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Great summary.

As always, handcuffed by the QB.

Steichen and Moore are obviously top tier, as one found out how to maximize Jalen while the other figured out to win a SB with Jalen. Johnson is the worst as he was the true believer. Petullo will be reviled as he couldn’t duplicate the SB blueprint, but also can’t rewind to the Steichen days as that system is beat, Jalen is older and the OL is struggling to run block.

51 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I think most OC will

Alright, wait a minute... Most OCs will get promoted to Head Coach in the National Football League? Is that what you're claiming?

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Great summary.

As always, handcuffed by the QB.

I hope I get so "handcuffed" in my job that I get a promotion that pays me 5x to 10x more than what I made while I was being handcuffed.

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Agree and Howie has the picks to do both

I can't help but think they will leave CB2 alone, unless they get a great deal and a low cap hit - McWilliams seems to be what Fangio wants. DE seems to be a smarter play, as in theory, more pressures/sacks could help mitigate things at the back end.

No doubt, they'll trade for WR4/KOR and Safety instead

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I hope I get so "handcuffed" in my job that I get a promotion that pays me 5x to 10x more than what I made while I was being handcuffed.

Not thanks to the QB.

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

I can't help but think they will leave CB2 alone, unless they get a great deal and a low cap hit - McWilliams seems to be what Fangio wants. DE seems to be a smarter play, as in theory, more pressures/sacks could help mitigate things at the back end.

No doubt, they'll trade for WR4/KOR and Safety instead

Seems CB2 makes the most sense though, as that was basically the 1 roster weakness coming in to the season.

Edge makes some sense, because they are disappointing. But, Nolan Smith is injured. And they can all be helped by a healthy Jalen Carter as well.

They already have WR4. I dont think anyone will be trading a KR. And I dont think theyll consider safety.

16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I remember exactly what you said, you said you didn't care who the OC was because they'd be doomed to be handcuffed to Hurts. But when you actually take an objective view of things, that couldn't be farther from the truth for Steichen and Moore.

At this point it's pretty obvious you're just throwing ish against a wall and hoping it sticks. Having 2 of your OCs get promoted to HC is not causing a carousel because of poor play. That's completely nonsensical. The fact remains, to date only one oh his OCs has been fired, and it's because he wasn't a good OC.

Sirianni had to step away from playcalling. Johnson was fired. If things continue as they are, Patullo will be the next scapegoat.

So we're looking at 3 by seasons end since 2022.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not thanks to the QB.

Yeah, Jalen Hurts really sucked in 2022. Good point.

Kellen Moore's offense looks more as it did in Dallas and in LA than while here in Philly.

I wonder why.

Though it still hasnt been great because he has no QB

Just now, Swoop said:

Sirianni had to step away from playcalling. Johnson was fired. If things continue as they are, Patullo will be the next scapegoat.

So we're looking at 3 by seasons end since 2022.

You said fired, but Sirianni didn't get fired. First it was "doomed", and then "fired", and both are objectively false. I'm starting to figure out the issue though, you don't seem to understand the meaning of the words you're trying to use.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I hope I get so "handcuffed" in my job that I get a promotion that pays me 5x to 10x more than what I made while I was being handcuffed.

All-in as a package I think Jalen is a mid-tier QB, maybe even nearing top-10 when motivated and healthy; but if the offensive emphasis moves away from running the ball including him personally… it’s a slippery slope.

9 hours ago, NOTW said:

They've only beat crappy teams, and most just barely (by 3 points or less).

They also would be the equivalent of this team playing without AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Jahan Dotson, John Metchie, Lane Johnson, Jordan Mailata, Saqoun Barkley, Jordan Davis, Tyler Steen and more for parts or most of the season.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah, Jalen Hurts really sucked in 2022. Good point.

yes. You have 1 extreme outlier year. Good point.