I realize it's a tough ask on the wishlist

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd like some continuity for Hurts and the offense finally

So who is this mythical good OC that no one will poach? Reich wasn’t thought of as that. Neither was Steichen. Moore was thought of as a potential HC, and it worked out pretty good.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So who is this mythical good OC that no one will poach? Reich wasn’t thought of as that. Neither was Steichen. Moore was thought of as a potential HC, and it worked out pretty good.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I realize it's a tough ask on the wishlist

I don't know

I think Kingsbury is the best fit for Hurts. I still think my long ago guess of Kafka is likely. That’s a safe Lurie type pick

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So who is this mythical good OC that no one will poach? Reich wasn’t thought of as that. Neither was Steichen. Moore was thought of as a potential HC, and it worked out pretty good.

That’s my point. The articles after Reich left the chargers weren’t exactly flattering. His 1st HC job came at 57 years old. People keep saying if we hire somebody who’s older they won’t want to become a HC. Monken is getting a HC interview this year at 59. I would bet if the offense was top 5 next year and was firing on all cylinders that OC is getting interviews for a HC job and potentially could leave.

Let me point this out Matt Nagy is getting HC interviews and that was with a chiefs offense that in my opinion he isn’t the mastermind and also has regressed since he has taken over OC role in 2023 (granted believe some of that is roster construction with their OL and RBs)

32 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

We’re in a tough spot. If we go on a run, offense plays well, I don’t see them moving on from KP. Which is unfortunate

The fact that Sirianni has taken over more offensive duties tells me that KP is gone even if we win the SB. I think Sirianni just didn't want to make the same mistake he made at DC a couple of years ago and decided to try to fix it himself.

35 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

We’re in a tough spot. If we go on a run, offense plays well, I don’t see them moving on from KP. Which is unfortunate

I don’t necessarily think that’s true. After 17 games I do not think Howie Roseman and Jeffrey. Lurie are not working behind the scenes. Now, if the Eagles offense takes off during the playoffs, they could always change their mind. Even if they go on a run and the eagles offense is avg like 17.5 ppg they’d want a change based on the offense should be way better than that type of offense with the money spent.

Imo I’d be really surprised they are out there talking to agents and find out the landscape of the coaching field. Howie seems to always be ahead of the curve on what’s happening around the league. Knowing who’s going where and who’s going to be available to them. And reaching out to potential OC candidates letting them know they are interested or at least conversing with them about how they view the eagles offense to get outside the box thinking about the issue we have.

Furthermore, the guys who were head coaches that didn’t get new head coaching jobs might think they want to take a year off before getting back into coaching. So some of these guys might still be available and then when/if the Eagles open up the OC. Eagles have a lot of lure to those guys. Good ownership, going to be paid very well, excellent talent to work with so if you get it looking high powered agin you are definitely getting interviews for HC job next year and maybe even being the hot name

Where is all the interest in KP for head coaching positions? The media told us he would be sought after.

So, my main takeaway here is that this whole defense hinges on Q basically taking away the boundary receiver himself. And it makes sense -- the one game where the D gave up over 30 was week 6 in NY when Q got hurt (sadly, I was at that game). Q's ability to erase the boundary receiver let's Vic flood the other side and protect Adoree.

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

It’s not very subtle

Monken, McDaniel, Daboll, Reich, Kafka

Parks Frazier

You're welcome

Frank Reich is the obvious choice for OC.

No longer interim HC with Stanford. Obviously a relationship with both Nick and the Eagles organization. Old enough where he likely won't be a risk to lose to a HC job snd can just be a senior well experienced guy like Fangio to come in and hold down that coordinator spot for some time.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

It’s not very subtle

Yup. It’s why unless this offense just takes off in the playoffs I think he’s gone regardless. Howie and Lurie aren’t stupid. Furthermore they are a deep analytics organization. All the advanced analytics tell you this offense has been bad all year. Some of it is guys not playing up to their potential but it still shouldn’t be something like 25th in dvoa on offense. this is more on coaching and play calling.

Imo so I don’t think they’re sitting behind the scenes like OK we gotta let this playoff run finish out before gaging the market and seeing who is interested and possibly missing out on HC jobs so we can hire them. the Eagles offensive coordinator job (assuming it is opening up) is going to be a nice job. Lurie is going to pay you well. You have all the talent in the world to be a top 5 offense which looks great on your résumé when you try to get a head coaching job next year. Add on the Eagles OCs that have been successful have been coveted for HC jobs

57 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

I personally would prefer Monk because he won't be poached for a HC job in the future and if hes successful here he can stay here for years ala Fangio :)

And Fangio and McDaniel may not be best buds considering what transpired last year. Maybe it's no big deal but maybe there's just bad blood as well. I'm not upsetting our Fangio dynamic in any way, shape or form.

Yes I think eagles OC job is most coveted. But relationships matter too. I expect Monken will follow Harbaugh.

McDaniel could get a HC job from a lower end team or he knows Quinn apparently

I don’t know if Daboll’s personality fits

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Frank Reich is the obvious choice for OC.

No longer interim HC with Stanford. Obviously a relationship with both Nick and the Eagles organization. Old enough where he likely won't be a risk to lose to a HC job snd can just be a senior well experienced guy like Fangio to come in and hold down that coordinator spot for some time.

I don't know how the relationship goes but it's the best fit on paper organizationally (not necessarily for Hurts) if Frank doesn't have too much ego about it. See...

The objective best part about it isn't really just his age leaning away from head coaching, or his history of not being the greatest head coach, it's that the scheme Nick learned was Reich's. I think there's a thing or two that is really challenging to work with in that scheme, and it might be nice for him to be able to go "back to class" for a bit in that regard, so he can improve at the adjustments needed. I think some people have this viewpoint that 'either you have the mindset or you don't', but that's not really true, it's not that people are just born with it.

In reality, if I can be serious for a moment, I don't really think football schematics take all that crazy of a mind in the first place. I think it's probably a lot more about understanding what the things you add to plays actually do in the sense of the game, and understanding the psychology behind sequencing - confuse the mind, confuse the eyes, make players revert to their habits, and then punish them. In my opinion it represents fighting games a lot more than advanced engineering (make the opponent overthink, and take advantage of that).

So for that matter, Reich is a good fit because it's the best opportunity for Sirianni to learn more of the counter approaches to someone playing him.

It's kind of funny, everyone talks about 'we have a HoF GM' as a reason to be upset with Nick, but people forgot just how long Howie took to develop too, and for how long his inability to draft hurt our organization. It's not like Howie became a completely different person, but him improving on his major weakness solidified his game. That can happen with more than just a GM, y'know. I guess the problem is people accepted Howie as inevitable due to his connection to Lurie, but it's a lot easier to get rid of a coach.

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Frank Reich is the obvious choice for OC.

No longer interim HC with Stanford. Obviously a relationship with both Nick and the Eagles organization. Old enough where he likely won't be a risk to lose to a HC job snd can just be a senior well experienced guy like Fangio to come in and hold down that coordinator spot for some time.

He’s been done since the end of November. Imo the Eagles could’ve brought him in to be a senior assistant/advisor. They didn’t ask him or he turned them down. Which begs the question of why since he’s great friends with Nick and the eagles were struggling could use his help (like Luck who he has great admiration for)?

Could be the Eagles aren’t as interested in bringing back Frank Reich as everybody else on this board is.

Could be they did and he just turned them down not wanting to step on PAtullo’s toes and create a less than stellar work environment.

Could Frank Reich took that Stanford job knowing it was going to only be a year. And he did it as a favor to Andrew luck. now is going back to what his plan was where he was going to retire.

Could be burned out from Stanford season and wanted time off to enjoy his family (was supposed to do before luck came calling)

I’d also point out there is the chance that Frank Reich doesn’t stay long in Philadelphia either because he retires and wants to spend more time with his family. Hypothetically the offense could look good in 2026 and they win a Super Bowl. he says you know what I won another Super Bowl. I’m just gonna go retire off into the sunset now and enjoy family time. And then you’re looking for another OC. That is a reality that also exists.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

He is not running enough. He is bailing backwards to the right and throwing the ball away. We need him to scramble to pick up 1st downs. Some example of a scramble from week does not give an accurate picture of what role his legs have played in the offense.

Called runs have sucked because Patullo keeps calling mostly outside runs. Hurts is too slow to the corner.

Draws have been good. Theres been very few of them.

Scrambles would work well to extend drives. Theres not been enough of that. We need Hurts to do that to pick up more 1st downs in the playoffs.

Hes focusing on called runs so that he can blame someone else rather than telling us he will help fix the problem.

Not a good answer from the team leader.

I think Hurts is honestly answering the question. He has run less because there have been less designed runs called for him. I think KP is part of that decision. It seems like Jalen is trying to be deferential to him.

No to Reich as OC. He's washed, IMO. Get a fresh new face and Offensive outlook.

Going to be another windy game.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He’s been done since the end of November. Imo the Eagles could’ve brought him in to be a senior assistant/advisor. They didn’t ask him or he turned them down. Which begs the question of why since he’s great friends with Nick and the eagles were struggling could use his help (like Luck who he has great admiration for)?

Could be the Eagles aren’t as interested in bringing back Frank Reich as everybody else on this board is.

Could be they did and he just turned them down not wanting to step on PAtullo’s toes and create a less than stellar work environment.

Could Frank Reich took that Stanford job knowing it was going to only be a year. And he did it as a favor to Andrew luck. now is going back to what his plan was where he was going to retire.

Could be burned out from Stanford season and wanted time off to enjoy his family (was supposed to do before luck came calling)

I’d also point out there is the chance that Frank Reich doesn’t stay long in Philadelphia either because he retires and wants to spend more time with his family. Hypothetically the offense could look good in 2026 and they win a Super Bowl. he says you know what I won another Super Bowl. I’m just gonna go retire off into the sunset now and enjoy family time. And then you’re looking for another OC. That is a reality that also exists.

Could be that Sirianni doesn't believe they need a consultant and he thinks they are fine with KP. If they get bounced from the playoffs then Howie and Lurie will make him take his dog KP out back.

14 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I don't know how the relationship goes but it's the best fit on paper organizationally (not necessarily for Hurts) if Frank doesn't have too much ego about it. See...

The objective best part about it isn't really just his age leaning away from head coaching, or his history of not being the greatest head coach, it's that the scheme Nick learned was Reich's. I think there's a thing or two that is really challenging to work with in that scheme, and it might be nice for him to be able to go "back to class" for a bit in that regard, so he can improve at the adjustments needed. I think some people have this viewpoint that 'either you have the mindset or you don't', but that's not really true, it's not that people are just born with it.

In reality, if I can be serious for a moment, I don't really think football schematics take all that crazy of a mind in the first place. I think it's probably a lot more about understanding what the things you add to plays actually do in the sense of the game, and understanding the psychology behind sequencing - confuse the mind, confuse the eyes, make players revert to their habits, and then punish them. In my opinion it represents fighting games a lot more than advanced engineering (make the opponent overthink, and take advantage of that).

So for that matter, Reich is a good fit because it's the best opportunity for Sirianni to learn more of the counter approaches to someone playing him.

It's kind of funny, everyone talks about 'we have a HoF GM' as a reason to be upset with Nick, but people forgot just how long Howie took to develop too, and for how long his inability to draft hurt our organization. It's not like Howie became a completely different person, but him improving on his major weakness solidified his game. That can happen with more than just a GM, y'know. I guess the problem is people accepted Howie as inevitable due to his connection to Lurie, but it's a lot easier to get rid of a coach.

I don't see why Frank isn't a good scheme fit. He got the most out of a mobile Wentz before his body and mind fell apart. He then ran a very heavy RPO offense once Foles had to step in.

Just now, LacesOut said:

No to Reich as OC. He's washed, IMO. Get a fresh new face and Offensive outlook.

I am with @ManuManu on this. You hire the best guy for the job. I can’t worry about whether or not he’s gonna get a head coaching job or head coaching interviews the year after 2026. I need to hire the guy that is gonna take where the offenses now and get it to be a Super Bowl caliber offense next year. I don’t know how much more time I have with this group. NFL windows open and close faster then people thing. We should have a bigger window but you never really know. Next year the Eagles have a bunch of different injuries and they go 6-11 miss the playoffs and Howie/Lurie feel they need a change at HC. Do I think that’s likely? No but I don’t think it’s completely out of the realm of possibilities.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Could be that Sirianni doesn't believe they need a consultant and he thinks they are fine with KP. If they get bounced from the playoffs then Howie and Lurie will make him take his dog KP out back.

No offense if Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman wanted Frank Reich there to be a consultant to sirianni because they saw the offense was struggling like it was he would be there unless Reich didn’t want to do it. With the Eagles being an analytic driven organization and having the analytic show, they are one of the worst offenses in the league, I don’t think Nick could sit there and tell the Eagles front office that hey we don’t need one. We’re fine. The analytics department which the eagle are highly invested in would tell him he is wrong. Imo they would force that on him. I also doubt Nick would say no to it. He had fangio basically doing that in 2022 (in the playoffs)