4 hours ago4 hr Joe Burrow: "If I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. I have been through a lot. If it's not fun, then what am I doing it for?"Unless he's set for life, he's doing it for the same reason many of us do things are are not fun fun fun all the time. $$$$$. He'll play hell and find a job that pays as well as the one he has now. Though I imagine being a tackling dummy gets old.
4 hours ago4 hr 1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:Saw Diego Pavia today. Obviously not a report, but a speculation. Said hes expected round 3, but could boost his stock to round 2 with a good senior bowl.Personally, I am uninterested in QBs at the moment. In my mind we have McKee, Howell, and McCord. I know a lot of people didnt care for the McCord pick, and were immediately down on him in his first pre-season game. His next pre-season game was actually terrible. But hes a toolsy QB who has been around on our PS all year so Im still intrigued to see him next offseason. He will only need to try to win the QB3 job. We arent counting on him for more than that. Seems to be a reasonable step for him to take.Now, if they trade McKee, then I become interested in taking a QB high because at that point we need to be drafting a Hurts successor.Pavia is interesting coming from you - he’s essentially a Jalen clone in many ways. Of course, it’s hard to have much reservation about Jalen at 23 and on a rookie contract.
3 hours ago3 hr 52 minutes ago, devpool said:They should not be looking at another Hurts type QB unless their idea is to churn through them every 5 years. Giving mega contracts to QBs who aren't proficient passers is a recipe for disaster, as we're seeing now. Guy refuses to run and now he's below average and we're stuck with him for 2 more years.If you have a QB who needs everything around him to be perfect you can't give them $250 million. Ideally you wouldn't give any QB $250 million but this is where the league is and no one will have the balls to course correctI'd prefer a state and just have an Oline that can give him time and block. The mobile ones are nice for the additional stuff but they don't last long. I think Allen is the exception because everyone expected him to get injured more often with the way he plays. Though maybe it'll finally catch up to him once he hits 30
3 hours ago3 hr Jeff Lurie displaying confidence and optimism is exactly what he should do. Was kinda surprised that someone was able to get that quote from him because we never hear anything from Lurie during a typical week in-season. So, that also makes me wonder if that was intentional by Lurie for some reason...to send a message to the team and specifically to the offensive side.
3 hours ago3 hr 23 minutes ago, eglz1 said:Joe Burrow: "If I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. I have been through a lot. If it's not fun, then what am I doing it for?"Unless he's set for life, he's doing it for the same reason many of us do things are are not fun fun fun all the time. $$$$$. He'll play hell and find a job that pays as well as the one he has now. Though I imagine being a tackling dummy gets old.Clearly he’s set for life if he wants to be.
3 hours ago3 hr 21 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:Pavia is interesting coming from you - he’s essentially a Jalen clone in many ways. Of course, it’s hard to have much reservation about Jalen at 23 and on a rookie contract.I definitely don't want a Jalen clone. I want a passer. And as I said, I'm not even interested in an early round QB at this point. Just saying, saw Diegos name speculated.
3 hours ago3 hr 37 minutes ago, devpool said:They should not be looking at another Hurts type QB unless their idea is to churn through them every 5 years. Giving mega contracts to QBs who aren't proficient passers is a recipe for disaster, as we're seeing now. Guy refuses to run and now he's below average and we're stuck with him for 2 more years.If you have a QB who needs everything around him to be perfect you can't give them $250 million. Ideally you wouldn't give any QB $250 million but this is where the league is and no one will have the balls to course correctAnd if they course correct all the teams would have to do it. And then it'll be called collusion and the lawyers can buy a bigger boat.2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:what can be done around the QB to reestablish the conditions he was playing under in 2024 so that the learning curve isn’t so demanding?Absolutely dominant run games are not so easy when opposing defenses know it's coming. There has to be a credible passing threat that they have to defend against as well.
3 hours ago3 hr Under Lurie, the Eagles have mostly gone for dual threat QBs. McNabb, Vick, Wentz, Hurts. They really wanted Russell Wilson in that draft and settled for Foles. They've taken some other guys who aren't known for their running ability but mobile enough to scramble. It would be a shift for them to move to QBs that are more pure pocket passers. We know Lurie wants more explosive offense and can't be happy about the passing offense. But I still think he wants the dual threat for running.
3 hours ago3 hr 3 minutes ago, eglz1 said:And if they course correct all the teams would have to do it. And then it'll be called collusion and the lawyers can buy a bigger boat.Absolutely dominant run games are not so easy when opposing defenses know it's coming. There has to be a credible passing threat that they have to defend against as well.How would it be collusion and not just the copycat league?
3 hours ago3 hr 25 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:Pavia is interesting coming from you - he’s essentially a Jalen clone in many ways. Of course, it’s hard to have much reservation about Jalen at 23 and on a rookie contract.Hard pass on Pavia. What a total D-bag. Don't like his personality at all. He's a lesser talented combination of Jaxson Dart/Johnny Manziel with a Shedeur sized attitude.
3 hours ago3 hr 25 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:Pavia is interesting coming from you - he’s essentially a Jalen clone in many ways. Of course, it’s hard to have much reservation about Jalen at 23 and on a rookie contract.He might make a better backup to Jalen than McKee. I've never seen the sense in having a backup whose skillset doesn't match the starter. Unless Those That Matter are becoming disenchanted with the starter's skillset and are considering a change.
3 hours ago3 hr 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:How would it be collusion and not just the copycat league?I'm not a legal expert, I guess for it to be collusion there'd have to be proof that the owners conspired to set/reduce QB salaries instead of there being a free market. I don't know if it would be legal for the next CBA to say something like no single player's compensation may exceed X% of the total player payroll or something like that. At least that would be out in the open and nothing shady or secret about it.
3 hours ago3 hr 16 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:Clearly he’s set for life if he wants to be.Unless he blows it like OB
3 hours ago3 hr 13 minutes ago, NOTW said:Under Lurie, the Eagles have mostly gone for dual threat QBs. McNabb, Vick, Wentz, Hurts. They really wanted Russell Wilson in that draft and settled for Foles. They've taken some other guys who aren't known for their running ability but mobile enough to scramble. It would be a shift for them to move to QBs that are more pure pocket passers. We know Lurie wants more explosive offense and can't be happy about the passing offense. But I still think he wants the dual threat for running.A tall lanky white guy seemed to run all over them when they needed a first down on Monday. Get a QB who can throw the ball.
3 hours ago3 hr 3 minutes ago, eglz1 said:He might make a better backup to Jalen than McKee. I've never seen the sense in having a backup whose skillset doesn't match the starter. Unless Those That Matter are becoming disenchanted with the starter's skillset and are considering a change.I think Sirianni’s default QB-type is McKee, good processing***, good height/vision, adequate arm, adequate mobility. Obviously, more of everything is better but processing is likely the most important aspect once the other physical thresholds are met. They tailor an offense for Jalen, but McKee is much more of a clean fit and there’s likely loads of material from his Indy days that Nick could fall back on.
3 hours ago3 hr 12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:Hard pass on Pavia. What a total D-bag. Don't like his personality at all. He's a lesser talented combination of Jaxson Dart/Johnny Manziel with a Shedeur sized attitude.I can’t speak to the character, some interpret it as fiery leadership. Bigger issue is the height and arm strength - so again the middle of the field might be a dangerous place and will he be able pull off those NFL throws outside the numbers.
3 hours ago3 hr 21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:I definitely don't want a Jalen clone. I want a passer. And as I said, I'm not even interested in an early round QB at this point. Just saying, saw Diegos name speculated.If the name is being speculated, I think that person is working backward from Hurts as if he’s the prototype… which just isn’t so.
3 hours ago3 hr 30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:I definitely don't want a Jalen clone. I want a passer. And as I said, I'm not even interested in an early round QB at this point. Just saying, saw Diegos name speculated.I think the first 2 picks should be any pair of RT, TE, and CB. I see DeJean's future is much more likely at S rather than boundary CB if he's moved from NCB. He's just a better weapon in the middle of the field. OG is a draft need if they wish to upgrade Steen, EDGE is always an option, especially if they can't re-sign Phillips. Too many current roster roles to spend an early pick at QB; Hurts doesn't seem like the type of guy you would have mentoring a young QB to take his job. I think when that change is made it will be made as Hurts leaves.
3 hours ago3 hr 17 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:A tall lanky white guy seemed to run all over them when they needed a first down on Monday. Get a QB who can throw the ball.I get what you're saying, but in that example Hurts had more passing yards than Herbert and Herbert had more rush yards than Hurts. 😀If Hurts would be passing better and the OC ran a better offense playing to his strengths, defenses should be shook. Try to take out Barkley, you have to deal with passes to Brown, Smith and Goedert. If they stop all that and Hurts scrambles for a 1st down then you can't stop the offense. It's built to be a "pick your poison" offense with lots of options. I think a half decent OC could scheme this thing to success, despite Hurts flaws. They won't be changing QBs anytime soon given the contract so they have to improve the coaching and the QB execution. WR drops aren't helping either.
3 hours ago3 hr 2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:I think the first 2 picks should be any pair of RT, TE, and CB. I see DeJean's future is much more likely at S rather than boundary CB if he's moved from NCB. He's just a better weapon in the middle of the field. OG is a draft need if they wish to upgrade Steen, EDGE is always an option, especially if they can't re-sign Phillips. Too many current roster roles to spend an early pick at QB; Hurts doesn't seem like the type of guy you would have mentoring a young QB to take his job. I think when that change is made it will be made as Hurts leaves.There's a possibility that they re-sign Fred Johnson to play RT. If they do that, they don't necessarily have to draft a new RT in the 1st round, they could pick one in rounds 2 or 3 to develop. If that rookie is good and wins the starting job, or takes over during the season then so be it. It would give them flexibility in the draft. If they don't see that and let Fred walk then I think they have to prioritize drafting RT.
3 hours ago3 hr Howie isn't gonna take a QB in the first 2 rounds. Not in this draft. He'll likely go OL heavy and maybe add another CB. I could see him taking a QB in the mid rounds though.
2 hours ago2 hr 13 hours ago, jojodancer said:If Byron Young going forward, is anything like he was Monday I am excited about this defense once again, when JC comes back especially. This defensive line now can compare to last year with MW perhaps, and the newfound depth they have. They will rotate and stay fresh and fatigue won't be an issue. Think Epps makes the secondary stable, as he and Reed know how to play together. Doesn't look lost out there like Brown and no worse than Makuba was looking. And Adoree finally looks like he isn't lost out there and reading the play. These are important developments for the defense and team. And JD coming on as well. That's what is keeping me hopeful here. Defense wins Superbowls. They have a shot in every game. Offense can only go up from here. They have reached their bottom. Think they will be hungry and the Championship spirit comes out of them before too long. Peeps have PTSD from 2023 and already wrote this team off. Could be a rallying cry for the Superbowl Champs. They don't lack talent, as many have told me in here. I think they surprise from here, as expectations are now low for this team. The playoffs are a new season and you can throw all this garbage out the window.Looks like they will have to go to GB or Chicago in mid-January and win. Won't be easy. I don't think the D cares about the cold. Go back to the Bears game in Philly when it was very cold and Hurts looked like he didn't want to be there. His facial expressions and huddling under a parka gave me that vibe. Can we trust A.J. to extend his arms in 15 degree weather to catch a pass? He wouldn't do it in perfect weather in LA. I don't know.
2 hours ago2 hr 1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:It's gonna be very cold Sunday. Coldest day of the year in Philly. And snowy early.Time to take advantage of tiny hands
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