1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Not sold on Toth as a guard - doesn't have the bulk.

The lack of depth at OL has shown up all year and was Howie's biggest miss this offseason.

Then again, I spent most of last week bashing Byron Young and he played a game so maybe Toth can follow.

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Looking at this defense moving forward, here's how I think they should be prioritized:

Absolute must retain for long term: Jalen Carter, Q, Coop and Jordan Davis (yes, Jordan Davis)

Would be nice to keep: Smith, Phillips, Hunt (likely one is a must)

Wish we could, but won't be able to afford everyone: Ojomo, Dean

Not getting another contract given age: Baun

TBD: Campbell, Mukuba

If cheap enough: Reed

Carter is a huge part of that D but we saw them get what 7 or 8 sacks without him? How many picks would you take for him along with the $45 million in cap space? My preference is to keep him, but he could fill a lot of roster spots and they wouldn't have a loose cannon. I'm not sure if he's an absolute must IF they decide he's not worth a huge contract along with the liability.

Just kidding sing the SOB

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Looking at this defense moving forward, here's how I think they should be prioritized:

Absolute must retain for long term: Jalen Carter, Q, Coop and Jordan Davis (yes, Jordan Davis)

Would be nice to keep: Smith, Phillips, Hunt (likely one is a must)

Wish we could, but won't be able to afford everyone: Ojomo, Dean

Not getting another contract given age: Baun

TBD: Campbell, Mukuba

If cheap enough: Reed

I'm curious about that Carter contract. This was supposed to be his breakout year but it didn't happen. Sure he has that agent that will want top dollar but he missed a lot and his production wasn't what we expected. Howie does make contracts based on potential though. I figure that contract will determine a lot of things

11 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Looking at this defense moving forward, here's how I think they should be prioritized:

Absolute must retain for long term: Jalen Carter, Q, Coop and Jordan Davis (yes, Jordan Davis)

Would be nice to keep: Smith, Phillips, Hunt (likely one is a must)

Wish we could, but won't be able to afford everyone: Ojomo, Dean

Not getting another contract given age: Baun

TBD: Campbell, Mukuba

If cheap enough: Reed

I've been a huge critic of Davis ever since they drafted him. No more. He's a must sign. I'm putting Dean up there with him. Baun is only here 1 more year. Figure out 3 LB for one more year and then you roll with Dean and Campbell. Quinyon and DeJean are no brainers too.

Jordan Davis emerging has made Jalen Carter borderline expendable IMO. Give me a jovial, committed to excellence locker room glue guy like Davis over Jalen Carter. I say this because I don't think they can keep both. It's one or the other. Jalen Carter has all-world talent but he's still a moron. I don't see the drive from him yet. Now, we said the same thing about Jordan Davis before this year and he finally got serious (in a contract year to boot). Can Carter ever find that next level and finally mature at the same time? That's an enormous unknown when handing out $35+ million per year. As much as I love Carter's nasty streak and the way he plays, if a team blows you away with a Micah Parsons type of trade, you do it.

The worst part is Howie has so much money tied in to the dysfunctional offense that it's going to force him to watch more good players walk.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm curious about that Carter contract. This was supposed to be his breakout year but it didn't happen. Sure he has that agent that will want top dollar but he missed a lot and his production wasn't what we expected. Howie does make contracts based on potential though. I figure that contract will determine a lot of things

Hoping Howie extends him and JD this offseason. Try and lock them up together, and with Carter coming off a down year, keep the cost inline.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Hoping Howie extends him and JD this offseason. Try and lock them up together, and with Carter coming off a down year, keep the cost inline.

I don't really see Carter being the type of guy to do that and I certainly don't see Rosenhaus advising him to do it either

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Hoping Howie extends him and JD this offseason. Try and lock them up together, and with Carter coming off a down year, keep the cost inline.

It would be a good idea to get specifically Carter signed while the cost is down

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Latu impresses every time he's on the field, whether it's on special teams or offense as a blocker. Not sure why they don't use him more.

He does play a little reckless / wild. Getting a little more under control will come with time but no way he shouldn't be out there over Calc in 2 TE sets.

We barely throw to the #2 TE anyway so there is just no reason to not have made the switch 5 games ago. Yet here we are

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I've been a huge critic of Davis ever since they drafted him. No more. He's a must sign. I'm putting Dean up there with him. Baun is only here 1 more year. Figure out 3 LB for one more year and then you roll with Dean and Campbell. Quinyon and DeJean are no brainers too.

Jordan Davis emerging has made Jalen Carter borderline expendable IMO. Give me a jovial, committed to excellence locker room glue guy like Davis over Jalen Carter. I say this because I don't think they can keep both. It's one or the other. Jalen Carter has all-world talent but he's still a moron. I don't see the drive from him yet. Now, we said the same thing about Jordan Davis before this year and he finally got serious (in a contract year to boot). Can Carter ever find that next level and finally mature at the same time? That's an enormous unknown when handing out $35+ million per year. As much as I love Carter's nasty streak and the way he plays, if a team blows you away with a Micah Parsons type of trade, you do it.

The worst part is Howie has so much money tied in to the dysfunctional offense that it's going to force him to watch more good players walk.

I wish Dean had one more year on his deal - it will be very hard to bring him back and keep Campbell off the field.

Carter is the absolute MUST sign for me. He’s been hurt this year which maybe helps with the cost. But he is by far the most talented player on defense, and maybe the whole team. Davis can help keep him inline, but when JC is healthy, we is in the conversation for best DT in the league.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't really see Carter being the type of guy to do that and I certainly don't see Rosenhaus advising him to do it either

Well, you exercise the 5th year option and roll that into the extension (did that with Smitty). So even with 4 years added at 35 per, the whole deal is 6 years, like 165-170, keeps the AAV under 30 (last year of rookie deal + 5th year option + 4 new years for 140mm). Rosenhaus gets to tout the 35mm AAV new money, we get 6 years total at below 30mm AAV.

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I wish Dean had one more year on his deal - it will be very hard to bring him back and keep Campbell off the field.

Carter is the absolute MUST sign for me. He’s been hurt this year which maybe helps with the cost. But he is by far the most talented player on defense, and maybe the whole team. Davis can help keep him inline, but when JC is healthy, we is in the conversation for best DT in the league.

There's no denying Carter's talent. I just need to see some maturity out of him. Davis just has more glue guy to him. Remember, Jordan Davis was also touted as a massive athletic freak DT coming out of UGA. He's showing that he can be a game wrecker.

I've said it time and time again, but Howie should have given Dean an extension while he was still rehabbing. Buy low and hope he comes back healthy. Nothing we can do about it now, but Campbell and Dean are complete opposites. Deans impact behind the LOS is something Campbell isn't bringing to the table. You bring him back and find a way to play all 3. Keep your best players on the field.

On 12/10/2025 at 11:30 AM, vikas83 said:

For the love of God...

They aren't going to bench Hurts. There's no universe where that happens. I'm not saying whether it should or not -- there's a 0.0% chance Nick does it. If he benches Hurts for McKee, then you have no choice but to move on this offseason, except...they can't. They can neither cut nor trade Hurts and take the associated cap hit in 2026.

We will sink or swim with Jalen. Likely sink. But the economic realities are what they are.

They benched McNabb in 2008... after he threw 2 INTs in one game... but when his backup also threw 2 INTs, they went back to McNabb.

I started to become a believer of Davis after the first few weeks but then it seemed like his tank went empty for awhile

I’m strongly against it for just keeping Carter inline. He doesn’t need a babysitter and if he does then add a babysitter reduction cost in his mega contract because that’s crazy

The Sirianni coaching tree continues to blossom

27 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Not sold on Toth as a guard - doesn't have the bulk.

The lack of depth at OL has shown up all year and was Howie's biggest miss this offseason.

What's the alternative?

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Are you referring to Rivers or Richardson as a dead body? For me... it could go either way.

@mattwill

The Kenny Pickett revenge game. Eagles O struggles all game again while D keeps them in all game until a Pickett leads a 4th Q scoring drive. Eagles O fails to respond.

Raiders - 17

Eagles - 14

Bonus: Hurts turnover streak continues

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What's the alternative?

Running Dickerson out there time and time again

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Looking at this defense moving forward, here's how I think they should be prioritized:

Absolute must retain for long term: Jalen Carter, Q, Coop and Jordan Davis (yes, Jordan Davis)

Would be nice to keep: Smith, Phillips, Hunt (likely one is a must)

Wish we could, but won't be able to afford everyone: Ojomo, Dean

Not getting another contract given age: Baun

TBD: Campbell, Mukuba

If cheap enough: Reed

I think this is pretty much perfect. I agree completely. I vote for Smith of the edge trio, but they need one.

I'm no capologist, but I assume even doing this is no small feat. Their cap allocations are so draftically offense heavy. I bet most teams lean offense, but I'd love for someone to see just how heavily the Eagles lean offense relative to the rest of the NFL.

I really think they need to draft offense and spend defense, which is the opposite of what they've done the last couple years. To pull off the extensions/retentions you list...I assume it would require some aggressive belt tightening on offense. As in, no newly allocated money on that side of the ball for the next 2 years (aside from draft picks). Goedert needs to walk, AJ walks when the time comes (if he makes it that far), maybe Devonta or Mailata get an extension that lowers their number a hair after 2026. And, of course, after 2027, they either trim Hurts or his salary. And no plug and play starter level FA's. 2-3 offseasons of not being able to spend money on offense. It's the consequence of having 8 starters on offense simultaneously wrapped up on long term big money 2nd contracts. To offset that, they need to draft a ton of OL, TE1, TE2, and eventually an AJ replacement.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The funniest part of this for me is Daniel Jones was wearing #17. Does he just become extinct in that number and Rivers gets it?

Reminds me of those old soap operas where the narrator says "The part of Olivia is now being played by _________ ", and some other actress just takes over the same role with no explanation.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm no capologist, but I assume even doing this is no small feat. Their cap allocations are so draftically offense heavy. I bet most teams lean offense, but I'd love for someone to see just how heavily the Eagles lean offense relative to the rest of the NFL.

This is using the OTC offense and defensive positional spending numbers. Eagles are second with almost 70%.

Guys, just be patient. It's only week 15. The day is coming where things will click, watch out!

@mattwill going back to the 1980 well except with the opposite outcome.

Raiders: 10 Eagles: 27

Bonus: Birds D with three interceptions