@RememberTheKoy Did anyone in that thread name the 2 QBs with more TDs than Hurts?

Its got to be Mahomes (204) and Marino (171) but also Josh Allen(176) so he's at best 4th.

Internet research on random twitter is mostly 💩

The Cardinals only beat the Cowboys on MNF was the absolute worst sports research I have ever seen.

Marino and Mahomes are just insane as 5 year players.  (both fell off a massive cliff after)

Marino had those 171 TDs but he missed 4 games in year 5 due to strike and only started  9 as a rookie.

And Rodgers had 188 so Hurts is 5th at best.

Fashion Fool was at 160 so he is behind Hurts.

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Not sure what his message means. Need a translator

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Yup, Eagles may not have a dynasty but theyve officially broken 3.

Not only Brady Belicheat, Mahommes and Andy, but also the only championship game Vince Lombardi ever lost was to the eagles in 1960.

💪🏆🦅

Question--If the Eagles win 3 of 4 over 9 years, are they a dynasty?

What about 3 of 4 over 10 assuming they miss this year?

How about 3 of 5 or 3 of 4 over 10? Assumes they go to 1 or 2x more (I can dream) and lose one and win one.

Clearly 2 of 3 over 8 doesn't get them there. Nor does just going 1 to 2x more and losing it/them over 10 years. Have to get that 3rd or 4th W (again, I can dream).

I think if they get one more within 10 years, that's a dynasty. Prefer 3 of 4 over 9 though as it is a bit closer to the historically great teams that did it in shorter windows, i.e., 4 to 7 years.

3 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Oh hey look, wonder if anyone's going to take back their statements about Sirianni getting involved and things instantly getting worse schematically. Even though they got better last week too.

Nah, pretty sure that'll only happen if the Eagles repeat, which is a hilariously stupid bar considering the OL is a mess, Jalen's scheme fit is pretty poor, and most importantly, repeating is insanely difficult (especially injury wise) so it should never be an expectation for being shown to be wrong on something.

I’ll never understand the "scheme fit,” excuse for Siri. His job is to get the best out of his players regardless. The fact that he has this offense playing like a bottom 5 unit with this talent is inexcusable. Other coaches have made Jalen look good, Siri alone cannot bec he’s not capable. He’s just a mouth. That’s all

7 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Not sure what his message means. Need a translator

1 hour ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Case in point of people being unable to give credit to people they don't like, so assuming that someone else is responsible for all of the change. I hate this fanbase.

I mean, why did he wait 14 Fing weeks to get involved? That's why there's skepticism. The guy has been watching this mess for the entire season, especially the last month, and just sat on his hands and did nothing?

Hurts should have been MVP in 2022 but Siri threw the anchor in far too early in 5 to 9 games in the 2nd half. AJ should have been OPOY

Scheme fit = perfection

He was MVP through 11 weeks of 2023 until the organizational wheels fell of completely from janitors to Lurie.

He was SB MVP in 2024.

He's 49-15 in his last 64 regular season starts.

He's the only 10 / 10 QB in NFL Playoff History and he wasn't 27 yet.

He is one of the 20 best players to ever play in the Super Bowl, not just QBs but players, based on his performances.

He's got 30+ TDs in 4 straight years.

And now I just saw he is possibly top 5 All-time in most TDs through the first 5 seasons as a starter.

The only bad scheme fit is between morons and their complete inability to process reality.

3 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Hurts should have been MVP in 2022 but Siri threw the anchor in far too early in 5 to 9 games in the 2nd half. AJ should have been OPOY

Scheme fit = perfection

He was MVP through 11 weeks of 2023 until the organizational wheels fell of completely from janitors to Lurie.

He was SB MVP in 2024.

He's 49-15 in his last 64 regular season starts.

He's the only 10 / 10 QB in NFL Playoff History and he wasn't 27 yet.

He is one of the 20 best players to ever play in the Super Bowl, not just QBs but players, based on his performances.

He's got 30+ TDs in 4 straight years.

And now I just saw he is top 5 All-time in most TDs through the first 5 seasons as a starter.

The only bad scheme fit is between morons and their complete inability to process reality.

I read here he is a little better version of Justin Fields. I don't know.

17 minutes ago, devpool said:

I mean, why did he wait 14 Fing weeks to get involved? That's why there's skepticism. The guy has been watching this mess for the entire season, especially the last month, and just sat on his hands and did nothing?

Weeks earlier he would have been criticized for undermining his friend coach, and not giving Patullo time to develop. Obviously Siri can do no right for some people.

If we get the division locked up this weekend, how do we treat these next two weeks? Rest starters and try to get healthy for playoffs. Or continue to play guys and try to iron out the kinks with the offense and the playcalling. I’m on the fence here. I’d like to see the O-line 100 percent, but the playcalling still lacks something but be desired and I’d like to use some of those games to try and get the offense reaching its full potential. It would be quite interesting to see how Siri and company would approach that situation

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Weeks earlier he would have been criticized for undermining his friend coach, and not giving Patullo time to develop. Obviously Siri can do no right for some people.

Yup, people ****ed all of 2023 that the offense sucked because Siri was to involved and overstepping Johnson

Hurts passing TD to INT ratio is 13th best. Not in the 2025 league. Not in the 2020s. Not in this century. All Time.

Hurts passer rating is back to a virtual tie with that Josh Allen scrub at 20th all-time.

Rivers is back to try to stay ahead of them, lol

His playoff TD to INT is 10 to 3 or 3.33 to 1

McNabb's was 24 to 17 or a pathetic 1.41 to 1

His playoff passer rating is 15th all-time.

His SB passer rating is 6th all-time (just ahead of Foles)

His Super Bowl completion % is 1st all time.

He has the #1 and #2 most yards rushing games in SB history by a QB.

There are 5 QBs in NFL History to average 2+ TDs a game in the regular season and the playoffs. Hurts is one of them.

I think the other 4 are Brees, Mahomes, Allen, and Rodgers.

I'd say its a perfect fit. Any coach who can't work with that is a terrible fit and should not be head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Give me Doug and Mike McDaniel or Doug and Daboll (with Stout and the defensive coaches in place)

Don't let the door hit Siri or Patullo on the way out.

Every pathetic worm crying to D-Gunn can get the hell out too.

I'm fine with Siri staying if he can leash his rabid OC and get his players to play smarter.

I'm not saying Hurts is the best QB in the league but he is obviously top 5. Any top 5 list without him is laughable right now.

He's kind of like Democracy. He's the worst, except for all the other ones.

I'm not even saying he is the best player on the team (Jalen Carter) or the offense (Lane Johnson then Jordan Mailata)

He is at age 27 on a clear and obvious first ballot HoF career pace (so far)

27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Weeks earlier he would have been criticized for undermining his friend coach, and not giving Patullo time to develop. Obviously Siri can do no right for some people.

Criticized by who? The entirety of football media has been crapping on this offense for the better part of the past 2 months. At the very, VERY latest after the detroit game should have been his cue to step in.

40 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

If we get the division locked up this weekend, how do we treat these next two weeks? Rest starters and try to get healthy for playoffs. Or continue to play guys and try to iron out the kinks with the offense and the playcalling. I’m on the fence here. I’d like to see the O-line 100 percent, but the playcalling still lacks something but be desired and I’d like to use some of those games to try and get the offense reaching its full potential. It would be quite interesting to see how Siri and company would approach that situation

Rest starters in Week 18. Resting guys longer than that contributes to rust, and a slow start to a playoff game ends your season.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Rest starters in Week 18. Resting guys longer than that contributes to rust, and a slow start to a playoff game ends your season.

If they have a shot at the 2 seed going into week 18 they will play the starters IMO.

If they need the win to lock in the 3rd seed they may also play the starters.

They had the 2 seed locked up last year. The only consideration for playing was the Saquon rushing record.

I'd argue that this team needs that 50 more plays on offense to work things out after this years mess.

You can't assume Darnold won't wet the bed for the 1 seed.

(Assuming they played LA to a last second FG miss last time and the rematch is in Seattle without Adams)

You can't assume a Green Bay or Chicago wont also lose.

37 minutes ago, devpool said:

Criticized by who? The entirety of football media has been crapping on this offense for the better part of the past 2 months. At the very, VERY latest after the detroit game should have been his cue to step in.

Oh come on... you haven't been paying attention maybe.

11 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Really hilarious the people who have the vapors about playing the Bills.

3 teams have allowed 2k rushing yards so far. Giants, Bengals, Bills.

The Eagles will run for 280 on Buffalo.

OMG! When we play the Bills its gonna be just like 2023! ... oh, wait, we beat the Bills in 2023.

Right...because the Eagles have run so well this year.

You just type nonsense constantly.

This world of rainbows and unicorns you live in must be fascinating.

2 hours ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:

If we get the division locked up this weekend, how do we treat these next two weeks? Rest starters and try to get healthy for playoffs. Or continue to play guys and try to iron out the kinks with the offense and the playcalling. I’m on the fence here. I’d like to see the O-line 100 percent, but the playcalling still lacks something but be desired and I’d like to use some of those games to try and get the offense reaching its full potential. It would be quite interesting to see how Siri and company would approach that situation

O MUST work. Not there yet, by any stretch. D can rest or rotate significantly more.

For me, if there is any solid chance at the second seed, we should go hard for it. Like when we win this week and if Chi loses and Seattle loses (whatever else we need or want), then we should press hard against Buffalo. Rinse and repeat for the last week, if we win and yada yada loses, if the path to the 2nd is still there in the last week.

The value of a second game at home is astronomical, especially to the Eagles with their recent successes in the POs at home.

4 hours ago, Utebird said:

Mcnabb from 2000-2003 had minimal WR talent, 1 could even argue that 2002 was a good group with thrash, pinkston, antonio freeman.

That 2002 team was the first team to have 5 guys with atleast 40 receptions , the 3 mentioned above plus duce and chad lewis. They were ranked 4th in points/ game that year

2003 their lack of a top flight WR exposed them though after that year they also started enforcing the 5 yard contact rule due in part to the panthers and the patriots mugging receivers all year

From 2004 til mcnabb left he had enough talent at WR to win it all, Tom Brady won a couple super bowls with less or as much at WR as mcnabb.

Hurts has been fortunate to have really good WRs most his career but most qbs struggle without good WRs.

Not to mention Reid ran a super qb friendly system.

Id be interested to see how many of Mcnabbs pass yards and tds came rom RB screens and shovel passes.

Mcnabb was a choker, Hurts is clutch

2 of his best games in his career were in superbowls, one he won both he outplayed the immortal Mahommes.

I agree McNabb didn't have that killer instinct. I also feel bad. Rules were changed because of how violently raped eagles receivers were. I still have nightmares of that spearing to the chest.

15 minutes ago, jamiller said:

O MUST work. Not there yet, by any stretch. D can rest or rotate significantly more.

For me, if there is any solid chance at the second seed, we should go hard for it. Like when we win this week and if Chi loses and Seattle loses (whatever else we need or want), then we should press hard against Buffalo. Rinse and repeat for the last week, if we win and yada yada loses, if the path to the 2nd is still there in the last week.

The value of a second game at home is astronomical, especially to the Eagles with their recent successes in the POs at home.

I agree with the offense must work. I’m leaning towards the offense working this week and then again next week against the bills, and regardless of the seeding opportunities I would rest starters week 18. I think it would definitely do the offensive and defensive lines some good to get that week of rest. I honestly think Tanner McKee and company could get that win if we needed it anyway. The commanders would be dumb to want to win anymore games at this point

2 hours ago, devpool said:

I mean, why did he wait 14 Fing weeks to get involved? That's why there's skepticism. The guy has been watching this mess for the entire season, especially the last month, and just sat on his hands and did nothing?

That doesn't many any sense. In both of the past two seasons, the narrative was "Sirianni needs to stay out of everything and not get involved" and everything bad that happened was "Sirianni got involved". So him limiting his involvement now is "He should have gotten involved sooner!!!?"

At this point Sirianni is just a frustration outlet in which people's logic shifts to make him look like the problem even if it's completely different ways between seasons.

4 hours ago, Eriv20 said:

I’ll never understand the "scheme fit,” excuse for Siri. His job is to get the best out of his players regardless. The fact that he has this offense playing like a bottom 5 unit with this talent is inexcusable. Other coaches have made Jalen look good, Siri alone cannot bec he’s not capable. He’s just a mouth. That’s all

He's literally not the OC. If the idea is to not give him any credit for other years in which others are OC, stop assuming that every time the offense is doing poorly, it's because of him and his (perceived by you) lack of skills, then acting like it's all him when it's not working is stupid. Secondly, no. For many of the last 25 years, the single most important decision a HC makes has been considered to be who is picked for QB. Sirianni did not get to pick his QB and is doing the best he can with Jalen, by delegating to others who fit him better.

You can deny this if it makes you feel better, but if every QB should stick with QBs they have because they can look good in certain circumstances, then make sure to say that Andy Reid is a terrible coach because he drafted Mahomes to move away from Alex Smith.

5 hours ago, Freshmilk said:

Spend less time on here and listening to sports radio and you will like the fan base much more.

The terrifying part is at least this year, this board is a lot better than a lot of places. I stay as far away from Sports Radio as possible. Lol.

6 hours ago, aptosbird said:

Hurts has demonstrated serious flaws that are well documented and justifiably so...but...he shows up in big games in big ways. But the defense won the last Super Bowl...blah blah blah....it was Hurts' running that opened up lanes that KC had no answer for and sustaining crucial drives. He and Foles are the two biggest gamers this franchise has ever had...period. I will take that over a 5000yd/40 TD lose in the playoff passer any day of the week.

Welp. We're now a fanbase that is making the same arguments Giants fans used to defend Eli Manning. Mind you, regular season Hurts is absolutely better than regular season Eli, but the arguments are the same.