If Sirianni wanted to truly go for it there, he's a moron. There is no justification for it. It's bad logically, it's bad analytically. Your defense was playing on fire? You don't trust them to prevent the team from going 50-60 yards in 20 seconds with no timeouts?

You can look at it as being aggressive, but you can also look at it as being afraid. If he was 100% confident in his defense he would have punted no problem. And that's a problem. Seeing Sirianni not have a lot of belief in his talent. Allowing coward's draws every game and just giving up. Not trusting the defense to get a hold.

6 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Please baby Jesus, Let the Giants be this dumb

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yes, without a doubt. A real play was absolutely sent in and that's what was called in the huddle, with a potential check or alert to send AJ on a go. But somehow half of the fan base will convince themselves that Sirianni never intended the ball to be snapped and Hurts took matters into his own hands and called a play with an actual snap count. It's honestly surreal seeing this play out in real-time.

Either 1 of 2 things to me. The play they ran wasn’t the one he gave them as they checked out of it which might explain him saying "what? What?” After the bomb happened. Or he wanted the ball going to goedert who i believe is open at the first down line.

But like i said he definitely going for it. The smart play would’ve been to try and draw them offsides. Get backed up 5 yards and then punted. I don’t believe for a second that was what they were doing. This was him trying to be overly aggressive and win the game which wasn’t the time to do it given the game situation and analytics. I’m sure the analytics department and lurie have said something to him by now.

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

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Yep, it's all pretty basic stuff here when it comes to what happens in the huddle and at the line. No earth shattering revelation, no mysterious or unexplainable circumstances, no gunman on the grassy knoll. Sirianni went for it. That's the issue. I'm sure whatever play they originally had called was super promising (maybe it was that PA pass to the TE in the flat for 5th time!) but I honestly don't get how so many people are confused about it and think there was never any intention to snap the ball.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Either 1 of 2 things to me. The play they ran wasn’t the one he gave them as they checked out of it which might explain him saying "what? What?” After the bomb happened. Or he wanted the ball going to goedert who i believe is open at the first down line.

But like i said he definitely going for it. The smart play would’ve been to try and draw them offsides. Get backed up 5 yards and then punted. I don’t believe for a second that was what they were doing. This was him trying to be overly aggressive and win the game which wasn’t the time to do it given the game situation and analytics. I’m sure the analytics department and lurie have said something to him by now.

Agreed.

49 minutes ago, hputenis said:

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Definitely hyperbole. That said their offense goes into these 20-30 mins stretches where they can barely gain a first down. Also 2 out of the last 4 games they’ve scored 0 points in one of the 2 halves. There’s also games like Denver they score 2 mins into the 3rd then the next 28 mins do very little or rams where score early in the 1st then next 25 mins they can barely move the ball and have more turnovers than 1st downs. Definitely hyperbole but nearly every game their offense has these lulls for a large portions of the game outside of the giants and Vikings

YUP.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Bad circumstance or situation considering the game was a low scoring mess with minimal positive plays on offense and that just neutralized one of them...sure.

But that guy got in a great punch. Wasn't particularly bad, IMO.

Spicy

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Spicy

Pretty much everyone holds him to that now.

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I assume this is the case. But it's not without a doubt, not a certainty, and not surreal for some to contemplate otherwise.

It is surreal. What you're contemplating is that Hurts heard over the radio "no-snap here, hard cadence only, until zeros on the play clock" and then he said to himself "F that, I got this" and proceeded to call an actual play on his own. That's not what happens. Sirianni's reaction would've been completely different. It's truly preposterous that we're even having the conversation.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

It is surreal. What you're contemplating is that Hurts heard over the radio "no-snap here, hard cadence only, until zeros on the play clock" and then he said to himself "F that, I got this" and proceeded to call an actual play on his own. That's not what happens. Sirianni's reaction would've been completely different. It's truly preposterous that we're even having the conversation.

Like I said, I don't think it happened. The reports that say he "went rogue" are not clear over exactly what was changed. If it did happen, it's benchworthy. If it didn't happen, Hurts' role in that failure was negligible. Audibling from one play to another when there shouldn't have been a play is irrelevant. But this is going to be wrapped up in enough BS and misinformation at this point that anyone who is claiming to know for sure is just pushing their narrative.

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22 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

100% - The multiple angles clearly show Blankenship with the strip/recovery and Phillips made the tackle but it was Carter who made the play.

That has been my view but, until I see the All-22 I’m hanging fire. It is very possible that @NCiggles has a point. If Ojomo had quick penetration on the IZ that forced the RB to bounce it to his right, then Ojomo gets credit too. He, Carter, and Phillips were all terrific, all game.

28 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Little known rule? I think I understood the nuances of that scenario when I was nine years old.

Exactly — when you were nine you were little

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Like I said, I don't think it happened. The reports that say he "went rogue" are not clear over exactly what was changed. If it did happen, it's benchworthy. If it didn't happen, Hurts' role in that failure was negligible. Audibling from one play to another when there shouldn't have been a play is irrelevant. But this is going to be wrapped up in enough BS and misinformation at this point that anyone who is claiming to know for sure is just pushing their narrative.

Nice edit to throw in that last bit at the end. I'm the one pushing the narrative while you're "just asking questions." Caught me red handed!

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

It was fun watching the GB players thinking they had a safety after that play. It would be nice if the guys who play ST knew the rules. . It really pays to pay attention on ST.

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

That has been my view but, until I see the All-22 I’m hanging fire. It is very possible that @NCiggles has a point. If Ojomo had quick penetration on the IZ that forced the RB to bounce it to his right, then Ojomo gets credit too. He, Carter, and Phillips were all terrific, all game.

I think most of those IZ runs are intended to flow to the opposite side of where the back lines up relative to the QB so it would make sense that Jacobs both hearing Ojomo call it out pre-snap, and then also seeing his penetration post-snap causes him to bounce it out to the right into the path of Phillips instead of to the left. I'll re-watch those other IZ runs Solak flagged to see if that's more or less in line with how GB had been running it.

EDIT: most were off the center's right shoulder and the one against the lions was bounced to the right just the same. So ultimately I'd say it was Carter, and Carter alone that blew it up. Ojomo wasn't as much of a factor since Jacobs likely was never going to follow anything to the left of the center anyway.

Just now, just relax said:

That has been my view but, until I see the All-22 I’m hanging fire. It is very possible that @NCiggles has a point. If Ojomo had quick penetration on the IZ that forced the RB to bounce it to his right, then Ojomo gets credit too. He, Carter, and Phillips were all terrific, all game.

Tell us what you see once you get a chance. I’m looking at it right now and what I see is Ojomo getting double and squashed and pushed away from the play and isn’t really involved. That does allow Carter to go against one guy though.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It was fun watching the GB players thinking they had a safety after that play. It would be nice if the guys who play ST knew the rules. . It really pays to pay attention on ST.

The players being dumb and not understanding what had happened is one thing (they're fairly young and likely haven't watched a ton of the sport when they weren't playing it) but what I couldn't get over was how dumb the announcers were. It's literally their job to know stuff like this, and yet somehow they were clueless about it.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The players being dumb and not understanding what had happened is one thing (they're fairly young and likely haven't watched a ton of the sport when they weren't playing it) but what I couldn't get over was how dumb the announcers were. It's literally their job to know stuff like this, and yet somehow they were clueless about it.

You mean Joe Buck? There has never been a more overrated play by play guy, IMO, than that blow hard.

52 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

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I admire his patience to go on social media and deal with stuff like this every week.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You mean Joe Buck? There has never been a more overrated play by play guy, IMO, than that blow hard.

And Aikman too.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

And Aikman too.

Yeah... Aikman isn't as bad as Buck to me. He's annoying for sure though.