2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He puts himself in these situations with the ultra-conservative answers.

I thought him sidestepping Jon Ritchie asking him why he said "why why” on the sideline was pretty telling. He knows why and what he said. Didn’t want to get into it. It’s either the ball was supposed to go to goedert and he was upset it didn’t. Or brown/hurts went rogue on the play

Week 11 starts tomorrow with 15 games on the schedule -- only the Colts and Saints get a bye. A lot of divisional games this week, which make it a bit more difficult to predict:

Patriots over Jets for 15 points

Packers over Giants for 14 points

Ravens over Browns for 13 points

Chargers over Jaguars for 12 points

Texans over Titans for 11 points

Niners over Cards for 10 points

Cowboys over Raiders for 9 points

Bills over Buccaneers for 8 points

Chiefs over Broncos for 7 points

Dolphins over Commanders for 6 points

Bears over Vikings for 5 points

Steelers over Bengals for 4 points

Falcons over Panthers for 3 points

Rams over Seahawks for 2 points

Lions over Eagles for 1 point

3 minutes ago, Birdman said:

As much as I want Patullo gone, they're stuck with him for the rest of the season.

Nick owns this mess, he promoted his buddy, and he's been a miserable failure.

I would equal it to AR's moronic move of promoting Castillo to OC. To me that was the beginning of the end for Reid, and Sirianni seems to be on the same path.

If Howie is constantly making moves to improve the roster then while it is outside the norm he should do so for coaches. If they want to keep KP then fine. Bring in Daboll or one of the Gruden brothers (just names) or a monkey trained to pick bingo balls with offensive plays on them as a consultant. They can tell KP what they are seeing and what plays to run the next series and other adjustments. There are two months left in the season, so plenty of time to integrate them and a few ideas. If he continues to suck and not get plays in quickly they can take over. It's not like the monkey above could do a worse job blindly picking plays from KM or Shane's old play sheets.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Week 11 starts tomorrow with 15 games on the schedule -- only the Colts and Saints get a bye. A lot of divisional games this week, which make it a bit more difficult to predict:

Patriots over Jets for 15 points

Packers over Giants for 14 points

Ravens over Browns for 13 points

Chargers over Jaguars for 12 points

Texans over Titans for 11 points

Niners over Cards for 10 points

Cowboys over Raiders for 9 points

Bills over Buccaneers for 8 points

Chiefs over Broncos for 7 points

Dolphins over Commanders for 6 points

Bears over Vikings for 5 points

Steelers over Bengals for 4 points

Falcons over Panthers for 3 points

Rams over Seahawks for 2 points

Lions over Eagles for 1 point

That Bills and Bucs game might be good

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Doesn't that go back to the play design being predictable and defenses being able to figure it out?

If they had all of these plays that go to AJ but couldn't then maybe Packers were able to see that pretty easily and remove him?

I know I'm biased because I think KP needs to go but I think better designs and play caller would be able to get our talent the ball more

I'm going to puke everytime I see three TEs out there. Two of the three can't block your grandma and while that happens Brown is on the sideline. If they want to be a power running run first team (and they shouldn't with the OL a shell of its former self) they should have brought in a really good blocking #2 TE.

6 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I Agree that the offense has been bad. If they had the #1 offense in the league and the fewest 3 and outs in history, but AJ didn’t feel he was being targeted enough, he’d still be doing the exact same thing.

He’s a WR. Besides Devonta; most elite WRs are divas. This kind of comes with an elite WR. Chase has done this. Tyreek hill has done this. Jefferson has shown his frustration this year. Adams did it previous years. Nacua doesn’t cause the rams win and basically always peppering him with targets when he is healthy

It’s more prevalent right now, because the offense hasn’t been consistent all year and going 3 and out at an alarming rate. Meanwhile we are going 3 quarters between targeting a top 10 wr.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Also, if everyone can remove emotion and bias from the equation, Howie does have a problem to evaluate in the offseason. @TEW hinted at this.

Hurts, AJ Brown, and Devonta Smith, collectively, are a massive cap hit. The Eagles are 26th in the NFL in passing yards and most of the teams behind them have been cycling QBs. If you want to defend these results because the Eagles are winning, that's fine. But that means some of this money should be directed at the OL, edge rushers, secondary, etc. It's a waste to pay 2 WRs big contracts.

They are spending too much money on a passing game they aren't using. Obviously it is too late now given they are already signed and too early based on taking cap hits for trading people, but it's time to take steps to wind down the investment in these guys in favor of other areas. Howie is a great, efficient GM. Having a $100m receiver on pace for a James Thrash-like season is a major resource allocation issue. And that's unquestionably eating away at Howie.

I don’t think we can move on. Browns cap hit plus his utilization as a man coverage killer combines to make this an impossibility.

We do have a potential out after next season, though. So my plan would be a bit more long term:

Draft a WR this year. We need one anyway because Dotson is a FA and won’t be back.

Then in 2026 the second year player takes over for Brown.

Hurts is quite frustrating. Very good athlete. Performs well in the clutch. Decent arm, good deep ball, reasonably accurate. Excellent leader. But he’s just not a guy who can carry an offense. He’s kind of like a very rich man’s game manager.

We can’t move on from him until after 2028, but I’d be looking to groom someone and if that works out see if we could flip him to a desperate team for multiple firsts. I kind of wonder if LaNorris Sellars might slip to us in the first. He’s kind of a better version of Hurts physically, but isn’t having a good season passing. I could see Howie taking a shot on him because of the upside and need to groom someone to replace Tanner McKee.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Jinx!

Believe Sheil and BLG were kind of alluding to this in postgame pod when talking about being conservative with taking chances and reducing turnover risk gameplan with sirianni. I don’t have a real opinion on it or not but it was an interesting theory/take

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Jinx!

Believe Sheil and BLG were kind of alluding to this in postgame pod when talking about being conservative with taking chances and reducing turnover risk gameplan with sirianni. I don’t have a real opinion on it or not but it was an interesting theory/take

Sorry, deleted. I didn't see yours

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2025/11/12/aj-brown-frustrations-madden-livestream-jankyrondo/87231369007/

This hasn’t made its rounds here yet??

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sorry, deleted. I didn't see yours

I deleted mine too. lol. I’ll repost it

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I thought him sidestepping Jon Ritchie asking him why he said "why why” on the sideline was pretty telling. He knows why and what he said. Didn’t want to get into it. It’s either the ball was supposed to go to goedert and he was upset it didn’t. Or brown/hurts went rogue on the play

Yep. That's the thing. Nicks lying, everyone knows he's lying, the media knows he's lying and it's a stupid lie to begin with. He doesn't have to throw the players under the bus or even go into great detail about it but if you were just 10% more honest the questions would stop.

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If Howie is constantly making moves to improve the roster then while it is outside the norm he should do so for coaches. If they want to keep KP then fine. Bring in Daboll or one of the Gruden brothers (just names) or a monkey trained to pick bingo balls with offensive plays on them as a consultant. They can tell KP what they are seeing and what plays to run the next series and other adjustments. There are two months left in the season, so plenty of time to integrate them and a few ideas. If he continues to suck and not get plays in quickly they can take over. It's not like the monkey above could do a worse job blindly picking plays from KM or Shane's old play sheets.

Disagree with the bolded. Bringing in a consultant now at this point really wouldn't change much. The time to bring in new concepts and ideas is the offseason. The players need to execute better with what they have. It's not a great position but it is what it is. The only other button Nick has to push is taking back play calling which likely doesn't result in much besides maybe a one game boost.

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

We have Barkley but he is also a year older and more wear and tear. I don’t think you need to run him into the ground when you have guys like brown, smith and goedert. If you have to run him into the ground to get the offense to function then there’s an issue cause with those passing game options you should be able to be highly competent with both. And preserve him more than run him down faster.

Add on your heavy run team saw the repercussions of it. Mailata talked about this offseason. I do think there’s a correlation between the amount of injuries. The offensive line is sustaining and going through this year and how they played last year I’d add Lurie in the past has put out there in the nfl you pass to win. Thats the Andy philosophy. Maybe he’s changed that philosophy but i tend to think what the 2024 eagles did being that type of run team is not what he envisions when paying brown, smith, hurts and even goedert. Barkley was an excellent value signing for the price and to help open up things even more. Frankly make passing game even better with his ability as a pass catcher (was mentioned when they signed him).

The other issue with your plan is the assumption the presence of Dotson is good enough as a starting wide receiver. I don’t think he is. He hasn’t been in 3 years now. Hes a nice 3rd wr. The production of brown is not the only thing he brings to the offense. His presence and the fear the defense coordinators have for him is real. That TD smith proves this. Aj brown took 24 and 29 with him which opened up smith for a 1 on 1 deep ball. Fee like that’s very unlikely without Aj brown out there and GB is making sure smith doesn’t beat them. You take that away and you face and good defenses then they gonna load up to put you in 2nd and 3rd long then do everything to take away Smith on those and I’m not sure a rookie WR and Dotson are good enough to make up for that.

That's all pretty true. The other option is we have coaching that utilizes the best WR tandem in the NFL with a star RB.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2025/11/12/aj-brown-frustrations-madden-livestream-jankyrondo/87231369007/

This hasn’t made its rounds here yet??

Yes several posts about it with the tweets that include the video embedded here.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

That's all pretty true. The other option is we have coaching that utilizes the best WR tandem in the NFL with a star RB.

True. However the issue is if we get that OC, he’s leaving the next year to become a HC. I think an interesting discussion is the offense living more on howie’s ability to compile enough talent to eventually overwhelm teams and not maximizing the talent

Claiming it's 100% Patullo and Nick is ridiculous. We see Hurts not even look at Brown when he's open. We've seen plays drawn up specifically for Brown that went to Smith/someone else. And since this same crap happened last year then you're now saying it's Nick, Kevin, and Kellen. Hurts threw 15 ints in 2023. Since then he's thrown SIX total 6. Yeah they're playing scared but Hurts is absolutely the reason they've been playing this way for 2 seasons now. It's everyone, and that included the guys who's told everyone this is the offense he feels comfortable with. Saying Hurts has nothing to do with this is just ridiculous and bordering on having a clear agenda.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I agree, they should fire Patullo now.

Funny but won’t solve AJ’s problems

6 minutes ago, coalesce said:

Claiming it's 100% Patullo and Nick is ridiculous. We see Hurts not even look at Brown when he's open. We've seen plays drawn up specifically for Brown that went to Smith/someone else.

No offense but when? I remember like two plays.

I remember several lackluster (or injured) routes and meh effort from AJ on plays this year.

Hurts going to start making comments like "He says he’s open, but is he really?” on his insta. Or "Maybe finish a route and we beat the Broncos to no one in particular 😉 "

I have a feeling the answer is nah.

AJ is being defended for the wrong reason. "But it’s true” is not the point.

For a while I thought "Hell of a player and glad he’s here but I sure wish he’d complain less” but now I can’t wait until he’s gone. A cancer like that creates factions in the locker room. Go away.

I may be in the minority but I completely agree with AJ and his frustrations. He is a top 5 talent waisting his prime years in an offense with an elementary level scheme. Siri has wasted smitty and brown tbh.

25 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree with the bolded. Bringing in a consultant now at this point really wouldn't change much. The time to bring in new concepts and ideas is the offseason. The players need to execute better with what they have. It's not a great position but it is what it is. The only other button Nick has to push is taking back play calling which likely doesn't result in much besides maybe a one game boost.

I don’t know how much it would or wouldn’t change. That said I’d talk to daboll simply cause he has seen the eagles often so he knows them well and he can give you an outside perspective of the offense that maybe inside organization can’t see. maybe that helps and maybe it doesn’t, but it’s at least worth picking his brain about. Also if you do move on from KP this offseason (likely at this point), get a free interview early with how he might want to run things with the offense and how he did some things with hurts at bama.

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

True. However the issue is if we get that OC, he’s leaving the next year to become a HC. I think an interesting discussion is the offense living more on howie’s ability to compile enough talent to eventually overwhelm teams and not maximizing the talent

I wish we had an HC that could call plays but Nick just isn't that guy. It's possible he's learned to be better than he previously was but I seriously doubt it

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I wish we had an HC that could call plays but Nick just isn't that guy. It's possible he's learned to be better than he previously was but I seriously doubt it

Imo i just don’t think he runs an innovative offense where it’s elite scheming of guys. I think there’s multiple issues like patullo, hurts has his flaws and the OL is banged up and playing mediocre.

Ojomo did not affect the 4th and short play, at least not physically, though he called it out. Here he is lined up on the inside shoulder of the LG. Carter is head up on the RG.

Ojomo is doubled by the LG and C. Carter bull rushes the RG. The RT gives him a look and...

...climbs to the second level to block Baun. Meanwhile, been Ojomo has cleared out but Carter has crossed the face of the RG, the RB sees this and cuts back. Phillips is being blocked by the TE.

Carter sheds the RG, Phillips drives the TE back into the path of the RG. Blankenship is coming up.

Phillips and Carter close on the RB, who has nowhere to go.

And the ball is out.

In fairness to Ojomo, when he called out the play, it may have affected the decision-making of the RB. It may also have caused Carter to cross the face of the center, forcing the cutback. Pretty impressive to cross the face of the blocker and then shed him to that same side - crossing over and then crossing back. The TE was no match for Phillips.