Can one of you smart all 22 guys go back and analyze that drive where the Eagles went up tempo? I'm pretty sure that was the TD drive.

Was anything different besides the tempo? It looked like Hurts was calling the plays and they breezed down the field

https://x.com/PhilaRoll21/status/1990812242288205991?s=20

No idea why Tweets aren't embedding.

It's not personal with Gunn. He reports something if he hears it. People need to stop projecting their own personal feelings onto reporters. It makes them sound defensive and paranoid. Doesn't mean the info Gunn got was right, but I can guarantee he doesn't "dislike Hurts"

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

It's not personal with Gunn. He reports something if he hears it. People need to stop projecting their own personal feelings onto reporters. It makes them sound defensive and paranoid. Doesn't mean the info Gunn got was right, but I can guarantee he doesn't "dislike Hurts"

You his kid? The guy's a tool, simple as that

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It's not personal with Gunn. He reports something if he hears it. People need to stop projecting their own personal feelings onto reporters. It makes them sound defensive and paranoid. Doesn't mean the info Gunn got was right, but I can guarantee he doesn't "dislike Hurts"

I take it as his source is the same guy it's been for a few years, and it is someone who likes to crap on Jalen.

8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

You his kid? The guy's a tool, simple as that

Gunn is a good dude and has been a good reporter in Philly for years.

18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Can one of you smart all 22 guys go back and analyze that drive where the Eagles went up tempo? I'm pretty sure that was the TD drive.

Was anything different besides the tempo? It looked like Hurts was calling the plays and they breezed down the field

I do think going up tempo isn't really a black and white thing. They hardly got any first downs Sunday night. Hard to go go up tempo when you don't really even have a drive. That drive where it felt like they were pushing the pace...I could be misremembering, but I think that all stemmed from one big 20+ yard play at the very beginning of the drive. They hurried up to the spot and kept it going.

You can really only choose to do that after you get the big play and move the chains to actually get something going. There's no real way to push the tempo when you constantly gain nothing on first down, nothing on 2nd down, and then need to take some time to figure out what to dial up on 3rd and long. Kind of need that first 1st down to get going.

24 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

https://x.com/PhilaRoll21/status/1990812242288205991?s=20

No idea why Tweets aren't embedding.

Probably something do with the outage today. I'm having the same issues.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Gunn is a good dude and has been a good reporter in Philly for years.

You know what - my bad - I got him and Marcus Hayes mixed up. Still not sure I'd take any reporters word as gospel.

4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

You know what - my bad - I got him and Marcus Hayes mixed up. Still not sure I'd take any reporters word as gospel.

Sounds like the BG stuff from last year - not necessarily wrong, but maybe overblown and probably should've stayed unsaid.

5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

You know what - my bad - I got him and Marcus Hayes mixed up. Still not sure I'd take any reporters word as gospel.

Getting Gunn mixed up with Marcus is like getting Barry White mixed up with Barry Manilow.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

I do wonder if Fred chose to sign elsewhere thinking there was a better path to playing time.

Howie as much as admitted (after they reacquired him) that they wanted him back but that Fred wanted an opportunity to start, which is something the Eagles obviously couldn’t do.

The problem now is that while he should be a competent starter (Big V level of play, which you can win with), our tackle depth is now paper thin. Pryor and Toth aren’t good outside, and the rookie picks cannot be counted on at all. I would think that the next best tackle would actually be Steen, but that would open up an entirely new can of worms at right guard so I doubt they’d go that route.

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Getting Gunn mixed up with Marcus is like getting Barry White mixed up with Barry Manilow.

I thought they were the same person.

3 hours ago, Eagles1960 said:

Can't be done, I was pretty positive but this link confirms it. Just sub 2025 for 2024.

3DownNation

NFL window details for players under contract in CFL

The 2024 Canadian Football League season has ended and players are drawing interest from NFL teams. The NFL workout window has commenced, it opened on Novemb

Thanks for chasing that down.

Reading it, it says that players who do not have a CFL contract after this are free to sign with an NFL team. But with that said, I could be reading it wrong. I'm not a lawyer.

17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Can one of you smart all 22 guys go back and analyze that drive where the Eagles went up tempo? I'm pretty sure that was the TD drive.

Was anything different besides the tempo? It looked like Hurts was calling the plays and they breezed down the field

Patullo had flipped the play card upside down.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The flip side to that optimistic viewpoint is that he started a number of games last year for the team and they decided that rather than resign him for literal peanuts, that they'd go for a different vet OT in Lamm. Lamm washed out and Howie had to make a trade to fix his mistake of letting Johnson go looking for greener pastures. Seems they already put out their opinion on Johnson as a viable long term option behind Lane... then again, maybe they've changed their view.

Maybe, that's why this will be a good audition. We've seen players leave here and have more success elsewhere. Sometimes it's the situation, scheme, coaching, opportunity, the growth of the player, who knows. If vikas is right, that he wanted an opportunity to start, perhaps if he proves himself the rest of this season - and Lane retires - he signs a 2 year deal here to start.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

well, the offense is crap. does that mean siri is involved more than we know ?

I think we all know that answer considering who he hired

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Exactly what my thoughts are. This is Fred Johnson's audition to be the the RT for the next few years. If he plays just respectable football, it can make it easier for the Eagles to not rush and force a replacement.

Anyone know the cap impact for 2026 if Lane retires after this year?

This may have been answered, I'm still catching up. @vikas83 can explain how retirement affects it.

Here's his contract: https://overthecap.com/player/lane-johnson/2185

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

"....things go to crap."

That's a management decision.

2 hours ago, beto_eagles said:

I agree, but they're divisional rivals and could make it very complicated for the Rams.

Agreed, the three-way competition between Seattle, the Rams and SF definitely makes it likely that all three of those teams will lose at least one more game ... most likely more than one. The Rams have the hardest of the three schedules remaining, which is why I wanted them to beat Seattle last Sunday. Seahawks could lose 2 or 3 from Colts, Rams, 49ers. Rams could lose 2 or 3 from Bucs, Lions, Sehawks. 49ers could lose 2 or 3 from Colts, Bears, Seahawks. And if the Panthers really think they have something, they play all three teams.

Seahawks schedule

Rams schedule

49ers schedule

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Maybe. But, he got next to nothing to sign. And if he was paying attention last year, he saw how dinged up Lane was. There was a very high probability that he'd miss time this year again. But who wants to go play in Jacksonville for that money? He got $1.3M from the Jags on March 19. The Eagles signed Lamm for $2.5M on April 3. Both signed one year deals. The timeline does support your idea though. Johnson signed in 2022 to the Eagles practice squad, after being waived by the Bucs in Nov. He resigned a one year deal in Feb 2023, before they tore that up in August and inked him to a 2 year deal.

My point being, they've been around Fred Johnson for over 3 full seasons now. I'm not sure how much more information they can glean about him than they already have. He is what he is, and they know what he is. He's a fine backup, but I wouldn't want to have to rely on him for a full season if there was any way around it. Maybe they can keep him around as a veteran insurance policy on a rookie OT.

That's what I would do. Sign him and draft a RT, but that allows you to not be desperate or trade up too much capital to get a RT. You could wait on a late 1st rounder and if needed, trade up a few spots but don't need to give too much up to get into the top 12 or something.

I also have no idea what the Eagles think of the 2 guys they drafted last year: Myles Hinton, Cameron Williams

17 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Howie as much as admitted (after they reacquired him) that they wanted him back but that Fred wanted an opportunity to start, which is something the Eagles obviously couldn’t do.

The problem now is that while he should be a competent starter (Big V level of play, which you can win with), our tackle depth is now paper thin. Pryor and Toth aren’t good outside, and the rookie picks cannot be counted on at all. I would think that the next best tackle would actually be Steen, but that would open up an entirely new can of worms at right guard so I doubt they’d go that route.

I was wondering who the backup swing tackle would be now. And if the answer is Pryor, well...that's not an answer. I basically concluded it would have to be Steen with Pryor going in at RG.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

The problem is a new play caller won't change the abhorrent play design. We have to hope there are bunch, mesh, other concepts in the play book that Patullo just isn't utilizing. Shane Haff had a great tweet about the 1st play of the game -- jumbo set, go play action, the LBs bite but we have no routes in the middle of the field behind them. So we open up a void and...send no one into it. We did it against Minnesota and the Giants, but it has disappeared again.

I think a big issue is the conservative nature that Nick is obsessed with (until he randomly decides to get really aggressive). The plays are in the playbook, the entire league have plays they've run at different places, we've had 4 different OCs here it's not like the plays are proprietary or something, they're plays the Eagles have run. This year we've seen them run plays that we know exist like RB screens, WR slants and throws over the middle, taking snaps from under center and using play action, and more outside runs. They sprinkle them in once or twice...then shy away the rest of the game.

I think Siri's approach right now is knowing they will win from defense and the offense doing just enough and he's obsessed with not turning the ball over. The players including Hurts want to do more.

18 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Maybe, that's why this will be a good audition. We've seen players leave here and have more success elsewhere. Sometimes it's the situation, scheme, coaching, opportunity, the growth of the player, who knows. If vikas is right, that he wanted an opportunity to start, perhaps if he proves himself the rest of this season - and Lane retires - he signs a 2 year deal here to start.

Stoutland has seen him for 3 years. I don't think there's anything new he can show... the only difference might be the playing time might be more open here than elsewhere.

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

This may have been answered, I'm still catching up. @vikas83 can explain how retirement affects it.

Here's his contract: https://overthecap.com/player/lane-johnson/2185

Lane's contract is a monstrosity - I modeled it once in Excel, but it was a pain. There's just a TON of dead money from his old contracts rolling through. I "think" his dead money if he retired this offseason will be between 40-45mm, so maybe OTC is right at $40.189mm (I think they may be low, as I get closer to $45mm). That can be split up between 2026 and 2027. You'd create some 2026 cap room and have a big 2027 hit of like $25-30mm.