59 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

no, no, let's see the flowchart.

@paco likes doing those 🤣

Probably a realistic change is Siri loosening up on the conservative approach. Work on the game plan to incorporate some different things. Insist on more of the plays that worked well this year. Run Tank Bigsby more. Get Barkley on outside runs and screens. Use Latu as TE2. Some simple adjustments to see how they improve.

This is a mediocre run blocking OL.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Probably a realistic change is Siri loosening up on the conservative approach. Work on the game plan to incorporate some different things. Insist on more of the plays that worked well this year. Run Tank Bigsby more. Get Barkley on outside runs and screens. Use Latu as TE2. Some simple adjustments to see how they improve.

If they can find a way to clean up the penalties that would go a long way. They still have other problems but 14 penalties is insane. But they've shown no ability to address that problem.

12 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm not sure what kind of change can even be made at this point. Loeffler calling plays seems like the biggest possibility and that's a bit of a long shot. Would they bring in a consultant like McCarthy or Pederson so late in the season?

Id go with Loeffler, im not sure how much it would help at this point but it cant be worse right? Right?

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Not surprising seeing the Rams at 1.

Theyve looked like the best team in the league this year

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yep many issues but you're not going to win games with multiple lost fumbles and 14 penalties.

Might be wearing black for a funeral of the offense ….

Just now, Utebird said:

Not surprising seeing the Rams at 1.

Theyve looked like the best team in the league this year

It's a nice way to quantify quality of opponent. You also see the Bears near the bottom. They'll get exposed on Friday.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not going against Quinnen Williams, Odighi and Kenny Clarke will help...

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

It's a nice way to quantify quality of opponent. You also see the Bears near the bottom. They'll get exposed on Friday.

I didnt realize the bears were 8-3 until after the game on sunday. Should be a good game but I dont think theyre as good as their record.

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Id go with Loeffler, im not sure how much it would help at this point but it cant be worse right? Right?

Agreed plus any change means that change is definitely coming in offseason and I’m worried that Sirriani would take any excuse to keep his buddy

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Agreed plus any change means that change is definitely coming in offseason and I’m worried that Sirriani would take any excuse to keep his buddy

Thats fine keep him as the ball boy.

Patullo seems like a nice guy and seems to know football, hes just not a playcaller and thats ok, unless you know hes your playcaller.

Has there ever been an instance in the league where a coordinator gets demoted mid season and then is retained by that same team the next year in a different capacity???

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Might be wearing black for a funeral of the offense ….

21 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They better get used to it - the mandate came down from Rog after he didn't get the votes to ban the tush push

If this season ends because the offense lays an egg, I can't even imagine how upset Lurie is going to be. I don't think he'd fire Sirianni, and I stress "think" because while I think the chances would be slim, I don't think they're zero. But I do think there would be some major ultimatums in the offseason. Like Sirianni can no longer have say in the offense anymore and they're bringing in a premium OC who has full control of the game plans, the scheme, etc, and Sirianni is basically just a gameday manager. I think this time around it would be a lot different than after 2023 because this team is far more talented and they are coming off a Super Bowl where they dominated, and this season they haven't even been able to go to their staples like the running game which has worked in years past.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If this season ends because the offense lays an egg, I can't even imagine how upset Lurie is going to be. I don't think he'd fire Sirianni, and I stress "think" because while I think the chances would be slim, I don't think they're zero. But I do think there would be some major ultimatums in the offseason. Like Sirianni can no longer have say in the offense anymore and they're bringing in a premium OC who has full control of the game plans, the scheme, etc, and Sirianni is basically just a gameday manager. I think this time around it would be a lot different than after 2023 because this team is far more talented and they are coming off a Super Bowl where they dominated, and this season they haven't even been able to go to their staples like the running game which has worked in years past.

They interviewed Kellen Moore and Kingsbury 2 years ago. I don't think it would be that different except asking Sirriani to take an even further step back. It's not like the choices are ever that clear cut. If you could pick anybody available who would it be?

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If this season ends because the offense lays an egg, I can't even imagine how upset Lurie is going to be. I don't think he'd fire Sirianni, and I stress "think" because while I think the chances would be slim, I don't think they're zero. But I do think there would be some major ultimatums in the offseason. Like Sirianni can no longer have say in the offense anymore and they're bringing in a premium OC who has full control of the game plans, the scheme, etc, and Sirianni is basically just a gameday manager. I think this time around it would be a lot different than after 2023 because this team is far more talented and they are coming off a Super Bowl where they dominated, and this season they haven't even been able to go to their staples like the running game which has worked in years past.

What's the point of Nick then?

This season and next season should have been Superbowl or bust seasons. Howie's moves don't corelate to that notion for me. I believe depth issues will cost us. The only way out is to rest the top guys (who are banged up or play way too many snaps) the last 2 weeks and get healthy. And then revamp the offense those last couple of weeks to give opponents a totally different look. Need to have Buffalo game be an exhibition game with the division wrapped up by then. This is all about being ready for the playoffs right now with a healthy roster and not being dependent on any backups. The final seeding is secondary. Must come to grips that we will be playing 4 games to win this thing at this point, so they need to realize that this is a marathon and not a sprint and adjust accordingly.

8 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They interviewed Kellen Moore and Kingsbury 2 years ago. I don't think it would be that different except asking Sirriani to take an even further step back. It's not like the choices are ever that clear cut. If you could pick anybody available who would it be?

Have to see who is available, hard to say. I'm hoping the Colts collapse so Steichen is fired, but even then I don't think he would be. And if he is, he probably gets another stab at head coaching elsewhere too.

It'll be interesting to see what happens after the season. There's not much reason to believe anything will change offensively, so if we lose in the first round, what happens at OC? I think there's almost no chance they run it back.