Just pointing out, there is an NFL universe right now where Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes both don’t make the playoffs in the AFC. If the Buffalo Bills go on to lose this game to the Steelers today, they would also be out of the playoffs going into week 14 as they lose the tiebreaker to the Texans

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t view it so much as disrespectful to Jalen hurts. I think Jalen hurts is good. Imo can be a consistent top 10 QB.

Imo the difference between the Eagles with hurts and the bills with Allen comes down to howie Roseman has given Jalen hurts the tools and weapons necessary to maximize his talent and this team. Albeit the coaching is questionable. I look at the Buffalo Bills and I can’t say that. Their wide receivers the last two years have been poor. McDermott and coaching is also question. Particularly mcdermott’s defense. He has been there a while and his defense when they get to the playoffs tends to no show in big spots. For instance, AFC championship game last year. the Kansas City Chiefs did not score over 30 points all year. The one game they did? AFC title game. Same issue where bills up 3 with 13 seconds and he can’t get his defense to close it out.

RTK, skippy, etc. will see it as hating

The rest of us can appreciate Hurts but know there are QBs that are just better

Saints fans loved Brees but Brady and Peyton were better. It happens

If Josh Allen were the Eagles QB he would get the same reaction as every Eagles QB in history. Miserable fans would criticize every bad play, every loss, blame him and want to run him out of town and call for the backup. Eagles fans have done it with literally every QB in my lifetime. Hero ball, rushing TDs, too many interceptions...he'd get ripped every week.

Curious if Rodgers calls it after the season or wants to keep playing. He's only becoming more fragile no matter how well he can still throw bombs

27 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I've heard some people say the Eagles should stop doing the tush push. No, they shouldn't. Which means they probably will because the head coach is a moron. It's still the highest percentage play to run in those situations and the Eagles have a crazy number of RB carries where the RB is hit behind the LOS. So running it would be foolish.

If Hurts gets the ball stripped 1 more time on a tush push then they should start just practicing regular QB sneaks.

They're gonna ban the play after the season anyway.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

If Hurts gets the ball stripped 1 more time on a tush push then they should start just practicing regular QB sneaks.

They're gonna ban the play after the season anyway.

Or just tell him to hold onto the ball. It's very possible he just felt too safe. Probably since he was dumb enough to stretch the ball across the line when it wasn't the endzone

9 Wins:

Rams, Seahawks (Soon), 9ers, Bears (They all play each other down the Stretch)

8 Wins

Eagles, Packers

7 Wins

Lions, Bucs and Panthers

The #1 Seed is far from over. Eagles need to probably win out.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

RTK, skippy, etc. will see it as hating

The rest of us can appreciate Hurts but know there are QBs that are just better

Saints fans loved Brees but Brady and Peyton were better. It happens

Not comparing Allen or hurts to these two. Just the scenario I’m giving out. I would argue Dan Marino was a better quarterback than Troy Aikman. Marino never won a SB. Aikman has 3 of them. Both of them were great. I’m not taking anything away from either one of them. It’s why they’re both in the Hall of Fame.

The difference to me in why 1 has 0 titles and the other has 3 is early in Marino‘s career they had the talent and structure around him to compete for a Super Bowl. But as the years went on, the Miami Dolphins did not continue to do that. Had some solid teams and some frankly poorer teams. whereas Troy Aikman when he got into the league, did not have all that around him. He got punished during that time. They built it up but once they got it done that’s when he became a HOFer.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Or just tell him to hold onto the ball. It's very possible he just felt too safe. Probably since he was dumb enough to stretch the ball across the line when it wasn't the endzone

I'd hope he know to hold onto the ball. Maybe he gets too relaxed after the initial surge but the refs usually let it go for a few seconds before they blow the whistle.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

He's still got a better completion percentage

At least he's got something.

10 minutes ago, NOTW said:

If Josh Allen were the Eagles QB he would get the same reaction as every Eagles QB in history. Miserable fans would criticize every bad play, every loss, blame him and want to run him out of town and call for the backup. Eagles fans have done it with literally every QB in my lifetime. Hero ball, rushing TDs, too many interceptions...he'd get ripped every week.

Maybe.

I'd be willing to bet if we had a QB that won MVP with a terrible roster he wouldn't get blasted as much

Nice move by Allen

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

If Josh Allen were the Eagles QB he would get the same reaction as every Eagles QB in history. Miserable fans would criticize every bad play, every loss, blame him and want to run him out of town and call for the backup. Eagles fans have done it with literally every QB in my lifetime. Hero ball, rushing TDs, too many interceptions...he'd get ripped every week.

That’s probably true. It’s why I think some people who take when hurts being criticized like you wouldn’t be doing this if it was Josh Allen. No they would still be doing if Josh Allen was here when we are having the same problems.

Now there’s been seasons with quarterbacks where we’ve defended the quarterback more and leaned more towards roster construction and coaching. Like 2019 when Carson wentz. He wasn’t playing great to start the year because you kept seeing all these videos all over Twitter about how the offense was stale and predictable. As well as he was missing throws and not reading the field well and hyper focused on just throwing it to ertz. But there was more of a collaborative. The roster construction wasn’t good, the coaching wasn’t good enough and Carson wentz also wasn’t good enough.

Taunting? How?

30 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Eagles were #2 seed last year then won the SB. We complained about the offense most of last season then they played great in the playoffs. Anything can happen.

It's up to the Eagles to make the necessary changes to achieve it.

We complained about the passing offense last year but the run game was unstoppable. The defense was also carrying the team while this year they are starting to look tired and getting shaky. I don’t recall getting out gained the majority of the year and our point differential was second highest in the league.

Anything can happen, but there are some pretty big differences that they just don’t currently have to suggest a run is in them.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious what he said. I saw the hit

16 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

If Hurts gets the ball stripped 1 more time on a tush push then they should start just practicing regular QB sneaks.

They're gonna ban the play after the season anyway.

I never paid attention in other years but it seems like that’s the solution most teams are coming up with to stop it, even though it’s pretty basic. Not sure why Hurts is struggling with it unless it was just two flukes.

29 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Last year they did it earlier in the season after that terrible loss to the buccaneers and then they went on a run after their bye (I think). They didn't lose until the second game against the commanders. The FO is going to have to be the ones to force it I guess since sirianni hasn't yet.

The O was dog water till after the Jags game though. It was saquon carrying. The D turned it on and ramped up after the bye.

Of course there are better QBs than Hurts. Consider how things played out though. Let's say they never drafted Hurts (which was a surprise to us at the time after signing Wentz to that contract). The 2020 season goes the same and they fire Doug and get rid of Wentz. Then they need a new QB. And new Head Coach Nick Sirianni can give his input to the QB he will work with.

The QBs taken in the 2021 draft:

They originally had the #8 pick. Would Howie have traded up for either Lawrence (meh), Wilson (bust) or Lance (bust)? They went #1-#3, and Howie would have had to trade up more capital to get them, leaving less assets for what they did the next year (trade for AJ Brown, draft Davis, trade back to get future pick to draft Carter). Would he have stayed put and taken Fields (bust) or Mac Jones (bust)?

Any one of those guys would get roasted by fans more than Hurts. And they wouldn't have DeVonta Smith who they took in that draft.

The Eagles also signed Joe Flacco that year, then traded him. Perhaps he could have been a stop gap. But would they have won games? Flacco didn't do ish for 4 years, until this year all of a sudden a resurgence.

If they did that and waited until 2022 to draft a QB, the options were:

Again, each of them would be criticized just as much or more than Hurts.

Hurts isn't a great passer and we will see how things go, when the time comes that they move on from him who they replace him with. Whoever that guy is will get run out of town by the fans too. Fans criticized McNabb, Vick, Wentz, every QB. Eagles fans are never happy with the QB.

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Taunting? How?

The Metcalf finger gun or something else?

36 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Eagles were #2 seed last year then won the SB. We complained about the offense most of last season then they played great in the playoffs. Anything can happen.

It's up to the Eagles to make the necessary changes to achieve it.

Last year they had an OC who could carry Nick along with Vic. Nick has blown two full seasons of the window hiring people who shouldn't have been. He can't fix this without outside help.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Metcalf finger gun or something else?

Player bumped into the QB while talking trash after the play

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Player bumped into the QB while talking trash after the play

Oh, stepped away and missed it. It’s a pretty chippy game, they are probably calling everything to get them to calm down.