4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes... hats off to him for taking a 15 yard penalty and turning 3rd and short into 3rd and long.

Dart needs to learn to protect himself, his teammates shouldn't have to come to his rescue when he's a dumb dumb. That was dumb.

I don’t like him getting the penalty, but I love my teammate sticking up for my quarterback(even if it’s his fault). Unlike the eagles this past Friday when hurts took a cheapshot and on replay it looks like no one did much of anything. Last year hurts took the shot from luvu. You can see Mailata trot over there, says something to luvu’s face then helps his Qb up. The giants stink and were getting their butt kicked, but guys are still willing to go to protect their Qb (and each other) even if he does something inexcusably dumb. Doesn’t excuse Dart for being dumb and not going out of bounds.

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

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As a contrarian thought. Purely hypothetically, if the Franchise QB doesn't want to make or cannot make certain throws (say, throwing over the middle) the OC and OL Coach are left with less bandwidth and creativity to make the O successful if the QB just will not do it. That O would look very vanilla. A Franchise QB on a SB winning team definitely has a lot more power internally to get what he wants, so it would be very hard for any coach (especially a year 1 Coordinator) to not listen and implement what they want.ed Especially if the Owner is known to want to listen players and will take action on it. Its a hard position from a proce4ss and political perspective.

Its not to blame any single person in that hypothetical scenario, but it is possible to look at a new OC and wonder, how much of what he wants to do in terms of playcalls etc is not done because the QB won't or can't to do it? If it takes 5 seconds for the QB to make a throw in the middle, that's not good for any scheme,. An experienced OC could well feel enabled to say no to the QB, but that comes with risk.

All hypothetical of course

18 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

How about giving us your top 5 restaurants in Philly... just for kicks?

In no particular order: Vernick, Suraya, JJ Thai, Zahav, Vietnam Cafe.

Eagles enter the world of Pixar's "Monsters Inc" on Monday.

23 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

Eagles enter the world of Pixar's "Monsters Inc" on Monday.

The best representation of the Eagles offense would be Looney Toons.

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

As a contrarian thought. Purely hypothetically, if the Franchise QB doesn't want to make or cannot make certain throws (say, throwing over the middle) the OC and OL Coach are left with less bandwidth and creativity to make the O successful if the QB just will not do it. That O would look very vanilla. A Franchise QB on a SB winning team definitely has a lot more power internally to get what he wants, so it would be very hard for any coach (especially a year 1 Coordinator) to not listen and implement what they want.ed Especially if the Owner is known to want to listen players and will take action on it. Its a hard position from a proce4ss and political perspective.

Its not to blame any single person in that hypothetical scenario, but it is possible to look at a new OC and wonder, how much of what he wants to do in terms of playcalls etc is not done because the QB won't or can't to do it? If it takes 5 seconds for the QB to make a throw in the middle, that's not good for any scheme,. An experienced OC could well feel enabled to say no to the QB, but that comes with risk.

All hypothetical of course

It's definitely odd considering the stats show he's good at throwing to the middle

41 minutes ago, KINGnabb said:

Eagles enter the world of Pixar's "Monsters Inc" on Monday.

I'm sure you and @EaglePhan1986 are excited for it. Are you going to have a sleepover and drink some apple juice with a TV dinner?

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Show me how this is a cheap shot or a dirty play? This new generation of talking heads sucks so much.

Dart is in a full sprint and clear line for a 1st down. Ellis is in a full sprint to stop him from getting the 1st down. Both players have a goal in mind. Get 1st down, stop 1st down.

Ellis delivers an absolutely beautiful shoulder to shoulder tackle with violence. It's a an ideal shot from a LB.

Big hits don't equal dirty hits.

This generation is...

The defender did the right thing, fully legally. This commentator is a moron and should be ridiculed for his ridiculous opinion, then soft banned by everyone just blocking his content.

If the NFL is going to outlaw or penalize these types of hits, then just forget tackling and have them put on flags. Football remains a collision sport, not a contact sport. If you want to remove legal collisions, then you fundamentally change the game... and we are slowly heading that way. BTW, this is only a point of discussion, because Dart is a QB. If he was a RB, then there's no discussion about this being a dirty hit, etc. So, maybe we just put the QBs in a red jersey and when he escapes the pocket, blow the play dead, like in practice. Oh wait, that's a problem, isn't it? OK, then maybe QBs just need to learn how to protect themselves like every other position on the field.

25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's definitely odd considering the stats show he's good at throwing to the middle

Absolutely. Whether its something like the QB not wanting to have batted balls, not feeling able to anticipate zones in the middle (even though he can) or a lack of confidence in a long pocket for the play to develop, but its strange that the O has that gap in it. And the reticence limits what sort of O can be called, and the reliance on the running game becomes more urgent to take the slack up.

As an aside., Hurts went through a phase of only throwing to the right hand side of the field a few years back. Thankfully that is a non-issue now, but it was mad when some of us noticed it. Why would am NFL QB only throw to the right?

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53 minutes ago, NOTW said:

The best representation of the Eagles offense would be Looney Toons.

Schleprock would be more fitting.

10 hours ago, NOTW said:

Yeah that's wild. I expect the bears to drop and become a WC team, or miss the playoffs entirely. They're 1-2 in their division, and they have 3 more division games left. They could easily lose all 3 games, and fall out of the playoffs.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

NBC Sports

NFL RedZone has become riddled with commercials, with a b...

For years, the NFL convinced fans to buy the RedZone Channel with the catchphrase, "Seven hours of commercial-free football."

When they said they were going to have commercials on RedZone we all knew it was going to happen, especially now that it's owned by ESPN. I just didn't think it would happen this quickly.

13 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Yeah that's wild. I expect the bears to drop and become a WC team, or miss the playoffs entirely. They're 1-2 in their division, and they have 3 more division games left. They could easily lose all 3 games, and fall out of the playoffs.

I give the bears credit for coming in here on a short week and winning that game. They were the better team. They wanted it more. And they were coached much better. That said I still don’t think that team is very good. When I went back and rewatch the game and looked at some all 22, it felt like the defense just had the dam eventually break. But it wasn’t for a lack of effort or trying. I just think on a short week after everything they’ve been asked to do the last couple weeks that they just didn’t have the ability to play at the level they did two weeks prior against Detroit, or against Green Bay.

The offense on the other hand, looked like guys just didn’t want to be there. I get it looks worse when they’re not performing well and the coaching is not great. But guys weren’t finishing off blocks. They weren’t the more physical team. Saw some WRs jogging at times or running really poor routes. Their body language on offense was terrible all game. It wasn’t just hurts. Last year it felt like that team on offense had something to at least prove. They were going to be the physical imposing team. Even if the passing game wasn’t working, they were going to beat you up and you were going to feel it the next couple days.

57 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This generation is...

The defender did the right thing, fully legally. This commentator is a moron and should be ridiculed for his ridiculous opinion, then soft banned by everyone just blocking his content.

If the NFL is going to outlaw or penalize these types of hits, then just forget tackling and have them put on flags. Football remains a collision sport, not a contact sport. If you want to remove legal collisions, then you fundamentally change the game... and we are slowly heading that way. BTW, this is only a point of discussion, because Dart is a QB. If he was a RB, then there's no discussion about this being a dirty hit, etc. So, maybe we just put the QBs in a red jersey and when he escapes the pocket, blow the play dead, like in practice. Oh wait, that's a problem, isn't it? OK, then maybe QBs just need to learn how to protect themselves like every other position on the field.

Totally agree. And if Dart faked going out and then pulled a Mahomes it's fine. If you don't want to get hit step out. If you stay in that is a legal hit. People are out of their minds.

30 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

Schleprock would be more fitting.

I was thinking Eeyore.

46 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Absolutely. Whether its something like the QB not wanting to have batted balls, not feeling able to anticipate zones in the middle (even though he can) or a lack of confidence in a long pocket for the play to develop, but its strange that the O has that gap in it. And the reticence limits what sort of O can be called, and the reliance on the running game becomes more urgent to take the slack up.

As an aside., Hurts went through a phase of only throwing to the right hand side of the field a few years back. Thankfully that is a non-issue now, but it was mad when some of us noticed it. Why would am NFL QB only throw to the right?

This is so exhausting.

Hurts doesn't want to throw over the middle! Except he has done it before and done it very well.

Hurts doesn't want to run under center play action! Except we did it earlier this year very successfully.

Hurts refuses to run anymore! Except he does, and he's not the one that calls the plays.

There is really no reason to think Hurts would refuse to run the plays called by the coaches, and he has done all these things people claim he can't do. He's far from a perfect QB, but it really is getting ridiculous.

I still cannot understand why the NFL schedules these childrens broadcasts when half of the children in the US will be asleep

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

This is so exhausting.

Hurts doesn't want to throw over the middle! Except he has done it before and done it very well.

Hurts doesn't want to run under center play action! Except we did it earlier this year very successfully.

Hurts refuses to run anymore! Except he does, and he's not the one that calls the plays.

There is really no reason to think Hurts would refuse to run the plays called by the coaches, and he has done all these things people claim he can't do. He's far from a perfect QB, but it really is getting ridiculous.

It doesn't make sense and yet here we are

This board will be dead silent after Hurts's stellar performance against the Chargers. But no, we should look into Carson Strong. The QB ain't the problem here. And the haters will once again have egg in their face when he gets past this little hurdle. Yes. It won't always look like you want it to look, but the dude is a flat out winner.

11 hours ago, NOTW said:

To clarify, Freshmilk asked specifically to clarify if Hurts said that about THIS season, under Patullo. What you posted is from last year under Moore. I also took that answer more as annoyance from every week getting the same questions.

Hurts has not been happy with KP, many of his interviews point to that. Early in the season he yelled at KP on the sidelines. He said in an interview they shouldn't play to not lose. At times he just replies "ask KP." Those comments don't align with the idea that the offense is Hurts offense. Now, it's possible KP isn't confident enough to take control and shies away from things Hurts doesn't prefer. Either way, that's poor coaching from KP and Nick. Hurts isn't Brady or Manning, he doesn't get to call the shots.

It's not just a Nick or Patullo thing, it's an FO thing. That's exactly what they, for better or worse, brought in coaches with more 'emotional intelligence' to do, dictate less to players. They wanted head coaches that are less imposing and more willing to work with players. I think emotional intelligence is good, but too much of anything is bad. The extreme of emotional intelligence is lack of discipline, because you're too understanding and empathetic to dictate what needs to be done.

They need to stop babying players on offense and actually having real expectations from them in terms of performance and details. Nick used to be very anal about this, and that was the best thing about him. It kind of feels like when the switch to Kellen Moore happened, and when Philly started to get really stupid about Nick having a sometimes childish personality, it resulted in him being less assertive, and we're paying for it.

It's okay to have good emotional intelligence, but you have to be disciplined too. If you're not, it catches up with you.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It doesn't make sense and yet here we are

I think the most logical conclusion is that the coaches are calling it this way to minimize turnovers. Passes over the middle are more likely to be picked. Hurts is more likely to be injured/fumble on QB runs. Anytime we are down, you can see the play calling and Hurts' decision making change -- he gets more aggressive and throws into tighter windows when we are down multiple scores.

It's this way because they are coaching it this way. Nick is obsessed with not turning it over.

17 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Totally agree. And if Dart faked going out and then pulled a Mahomes it's fine. If you don't want to get hit step out. If you stay in that is a legal hit. People are out of their minds.

To Dart's credit, he didn't have a problem with the hit.