1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Hoping they let JD and DG walk. I wouldn't be upset if they let Reed walk. Hope they bring Phillips back. Also Becton

Sure, let's let our best DL this season walk. Another "genius" idea from you.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Steichen and Moore were great at just going back to the well over and over again, but building variations to keep the defense honest. I mean, we run hook routes to the sticks non-stop -- maybe run a double move off it one damn time??

Yeah they don’t build off anything. They just run the same routes and concepts hoping it’ll work. The tush push surprise was about it. (Frankly if you watch that on replay Barkley is lined differently behind hurts than he usually is). We are in week 15 and we continue to just look like an offense picking plays out of a hat and hoping they’d work.

Furthermore, we continue to misuse our personnel. This was crap i was irritated with Doug about. Like in 2019, analytics showed wentz outside the pocket was elite and just average inside the pocket. So instead of finding ways to get wentz rolling out and having him do things outside the pocket, we’d do it 1-2 times with success then never use it again. Last night eye popping numbers difference under center vs. shotgun. Yet we had 51 plays in shotgun to 15 plays under center. Don’t even want to go into devonta chipping on 3rd and 12 or calceterra’s egregious usage

This offense isn't even mediocre right now. If in some way that can happen we are in a different realm. Losing games by a couple points for the most part. Giants game was a schedule loss due to injuries and Bears game flipped on a bad tush push turnover. Offense played so bad and still barely lost all those games. We won those kind of tight games earlier in the season with a worse defense than now. There's light at the of the tunnel. Need to be just mediocre and you are the Texans essentially, which to me is a Superbowl contender right now.

Offense and defense since the bye.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah they don’t build off anything. They just run the same routes and concepts hoping it’ll work. The tush push surprise was about it. (Frankly if you watch that on replay Barkley is lined differently behind hurts than he usually is). We are in week 15 and we continue to just look like an offense picking plays out of a hat and hoping they’d work.

Furthermore, we continue to misuse our personnel. This was crap i was irritated with Doug about. Like in 2019, analytics showed wentz outside the pocket was elite and just average inside the pocket. So instead of finding ways to get wentz rolling out and having him do things outside the pocket, we’d do it 1-2 times with success then never use it again. Last night eye popping numbers difference under center vs. shotgun. Yet we had 51 plays in shotgun to 15 plays under center. Don’t even want to go into devonta chipping on 3rd and 12 or calceterra’s egregious usage

Patullo calls a game like a little kid playing Madden. It's just a bunch of random plays that he thinks are cool. There is ZERO plan to anything he does, which even bad OC's usually have.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lurie finally got Russ!!!

It's what Lurie said on draft day. Didn't want to miss out on Russell Wilson again.

We now know the origins of our basic offense...

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

2 teams that are trying to lose.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

If he ran the ball more, our run game would be more effective and he wouldn't have to try to make up for it by trying to be the passer he struggles to be.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

I agree with him, but the reality is if the Eagles need to play a very specific way for their QB to have a chance to be successful then that means the QB isn't very good. Great QBs can win in any system or any style. If the only way this team can win with Hurts is him throwing low percentage throws and running the ball a ton, otherwise he's going to get confused and start pressing, then he's not the franchise QB this team needs to build around and they should move on from him as soon as feasible.

Just now, eagle45 said:

2 teams that are trying to lose.

The eagles offense epitomizes this gif

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Hoping they let JD and DG walk. I wouldn't be upset if they let Reed walk. Hope they bring Phillips back. Also Becton

Who is playing TE?

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

#94 flashed a few times last night. Thought he did well.

Just now, Miami said:

#94 flashed a few times last night. Thought he did well.

I ripped him last week. was awful against the bears. I give young a lot of credit. He looked good last night. Maybe he was inspired by the fact that I ripped him last week as we had the worst defensive player on the field.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Who is playing TE?

Probably someone who can’t block very well but they’ll still use him as a main blocker

1 hour ago, just relax said:

Off with their heads.

Reminds me of the old John McKay quote…

"What do you think of your team's execution, coach?" asked a reporter. McKay replied, "I'm in favor of it".

If this is the Byron Young, Marcus Epps and Adoree we get the rest of the way, we will compete in every game. Especially with JC back. Let's hope.

Do agree, Jalen needs to start running more when it comes to crunch time. Just like Herbert did with a broken hand. It's not even about designed runs fully. Improvising better would help. To move the sticks. Done it before. Did it in that first Cowboys game really well. Still feel that they are playing it safe and making sure he's doesn't get hurt with their overall philosophies. Would hope that changes, playoff time or in any playoff clinching games. Imagine it will.

One other note. Need to use the tush push as a decoy play on 3rd/4th and short. I would run it in earnest 1 out of 3 times. It's basically Russian Roulette for the defense. I'd like Tank in there for those plays. And some motion with either Goedert/Barkley/Smith would be nice.

I might just start watching the defense in games then change the channel to a different game for when the offense is out there. It is so difficult to watch this team’s offense. This is what it must feel like to watch the browns every year except maybe a little worse as we actually have talent on offense.

Early thoughts on the upcoming offseason....

• Sign Phillips and Davis. Wait another year on extending Carter. Not sure about Nolan yet.

• Let Blankenship and Dean walk. Don't invest too much in S and CB2. I trust Vic with lesser talent.

• Focus draft resources on quality OL depth. It has and will always be the secret sauce for an offense designed for Hurts.

• Get TEs that can block.

OK let's talk about hitch routes. Some of the media astutely made this a talking point after noticing the extreme predilection the Eagles have for these routes. But this is the core of the problem and really deserves a deep dive, which, IMO, truly reveals the problem..

As the vast majority of blog superfans are aware, the hitch route is a short route characterized by a quick plant and turn towards the QB. It presents a stationary target. There is nearly zero possibility for YAC. A couple things to establish about why the Eagles run so many of them:

Fact:

1. The Eagles like hitch routes short of the 1st down marker on 2nd and 3rd down. This is a soft spot in the zone that is defended less rigorously. It is a more challenging throw and connection to go beyond the sticks, where the defense is really trying to stop you. This gets the Eagles into tush push territory for 3rd or 4th down.

2. An offense built on hitch routes will not generate YAC.

Assertion:

1. Given that hitch routes present a simpler, stationary target, the coaches prefer to overwhelmingly run these due to a lack of confidence in their QB. Contrary to popular belief, this is not the route tree the HC and OC want.

2. As the chatter about the hitch route obsession has gained momentum, the Chargers were actually the first team to really start jumping them. So far this year, other teams were content to permissively allow that underneath crap, especially considering the decreased efficacy of the tush push.

3. The Eagles coaches did, in fact, adjust to what the Chargers were doing. This was why we saw a "more aggressive" game plan that targeted more areas of the field with more diverse routes than we've seen all year. The Chargers pushed them into doing this. That's why we saw so many open players in the second level.

4. Hurts' INTs did not come off jumping hitch routes. They came off the Eagles coaches opening up the route tree and getting away from those routes in response to what the Chargers were doing.

5. #4 is the most damning of all for Hurts. It's exhibit A for WHY these coaches insist on running this maddening, vanilla offense. They tried to get away from that (no...were dared to get away from that by the Chargers)...and Hurts showed everyone exactly why we run the offense we run.

How do you think the team responds Sunday?

I'm feeling that they come out looking kinda dead and demoralized after losing that game in OT, and it's either a nail biter or it's an ugly game where the Eagles lead by 10 the majority of the game, but also aren't playing particularly well and you get the feeling they're only winning because the Raiders are atrocious.