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No offense but I’m going to need a Cliff’s Notes feature for some of your posts

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8 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

A team actually won the SB like this, and then the guy running their D became Head Coach in Philly the next year.

Ditka was not allowed in the defensive team meeting room and Buddy did not answer to him.

I actually did not know this dynamic was so stringent in the 85 (and past several years) of the Bears. A true full control, huh. Thank you for the information, perhaps I was a little too harsh.

Though Chip doing it would be a nightmare in the way I said at least, I couldn't even imagine. Lol.

12 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

No offense but I’m going to need a Cliff’s Notes feature for some of your posts

I'm sure mine is guilty, though I doubt it was the one in question.

Cliff notes version:

Watch out for the possibility of the Eagles trying to create a new offense model, or revisit old ones like Belichick's collaborative offense when Josh McDaniels was gone, to create a way to thwart offensive poaching after deep playoff runs. Feels like they're up to something since they're acting very weird about the search.

Hope that helps. Lol.

4 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I actually did not know this dynamic was so stringent in the 85 (and past several years) of the Bears. A true full control, huh. Thank you for the information, perhaps I was a little too harsh.

Though Chip doing it would be a nightmare in the way I said at least, I couldn't even imagine. Lol.

You are not too harsh. Buddy had the EQ of a toddler and that team underachieved by only winning once.

It was a very special circumstance and Buddy was in no way a co-HC, he just ran the defense.

Lots of coaches let the expert take care of the other side of the ball.

This one was more visible because Buddy hated Ditka and Ditka hated him back.

Trying to repeat this would be insanity and trying to do it with Shedeur means picking in the top 5 again next year.

Just now, SkippyX said:

You are not too harsh. Buddy had the EQ of a toddler and that team underachieved by only winning once.

It was a very special circumstance and Buddy was in no way a co-HC, he just ran the defense.

Lots of coaches let the expert take care of the other side of the ball.

This one was more visible because Buddy hated Ditka and Ditka hated him back.

Trying to repeat this would be insanity and trying to do it with Shedeur means picking in the top 5 again next year.

I mean yeah, the thing is I'm a few years too young to have seen the 85 Bears in anything other than reviews and past games, but I was wondering how the hell that worked with Buddy Ryan considering the stories I've heard about the guy from a temper perspective. I just think it's not something the NFL can pull off. Some businesses can, but the NFL is largely driven at the high coaching levels by egos, and it's so competitive that it just doesn't seem practical.

Business segments are separate enough that you can slap them under different people, who answer to a CEO because the divisions are spaced out enough to make it work. But the NFL, the defense and offense are so intertwined, the money people get is so high, pressure is so large...

And then on top of that it's the Browns. The only argument could be "Well, they're the Browns, so how much worse could it actually get?"

4 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I'm sure mine is guilty, though I doubt it was the one in question.

Cliff notes version:

Watch out for the possibility of the Eagles trying to create a new offense model, or revisit old ones like Belichick's collaborative offense when Josh McDaniels was gone, to create a way to thwart offensive poaching after deep playoff runs. Feels like they're up to something since they're acting very weird about the search.

Hope that helps. Lol.

The worst collaboration was when the Eagles tried to add the Matt Patricia into the mix on D in 2013.

The best may have been when Reich, Doug, and Flip worked with Foles to tailor the playoff offense to his strengths.

There has to be one voice calling the shots on offense and it can't be Nick.

I'm completely fine if they bring in a hotshot play caller and a mentor type as a sounding board.

I would really like to make sure Nick is a minority voice in the offense (maybe decide to go on 4th but not the play to call or the personnel)

I would prefer Patullo was in solitary confinement on a different continent.

26 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I am quite high on Weiss Jnr - was hopining for a Weiss Jnr / Trinidad combo when we first brought him in (assuming we move on McKee)

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s not exactly encouraging when these young guys decline eagles consideration but then look elsewhere. I’m not an alarmist on this stuff because media reports are usually wrong but it’s hard not to get a little worried.

I do think Lurie challenges them about media readiness. He does that with qb draft picks. Maybe it scares young guys off

Man, this can't be happening. Should have just moved on from him at the end of season.

I think it's going to be Sean Mannion. I also wouldn't rule out them hiring two guys as co-OCs. Just a hunch.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Man, this can't be happening. Should have just moved on from him at the end of season.

It’s not happening. It was just an offhand comment by Schefter

Just now, pgcd3 said:

It’s not happening. It was just an offhand comment by Schefter

Sure f'in hope so.

And, also how f'in sad is it that the prospect of our offensive HC calling plays is cause for panic.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

i doubt he would do it. But you’d get better answers about sirianni in terms of play calling and his playbook/play design.

Sure but doing that sacrifices two consecutive years of a super bowl window by idiotic coaching decisions.

The only positive is that would definitely be the end of sirianni. They would then get a new coach who probably dumps hurts and you have a still pretty young defense, smitty, and a possibly great offensive line if they go OL heavy this draft. They could win again in 2 years, or they can win next year by hiring a competent human being

7 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

I think it's going to be Sean Mannion. I also wouldn't rule out them hiring two guys as co-OCs. Just a hunch.

I can see it now

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2 minutes ago, devpool said:

Sure but doing that sacrifices two consecutive years of a super bowl window by idiotic coaching decisions.

The only positive is that would definitely be the end of sirianni. They would then get a new coach who probably dumps hurts and you have a still pretty young defense, smitty, and a possibly great offensive line if they go OL heavy this draft. They could win again in 2 years, or they can win next year by hiring a competent human being

Yeah, first paragraph us why I don’t love the idea. But your second paragraph kind alludes to what i was getting at as you’d get an answer about what to do going forward.

4 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Cooter would be the most annoying because he has a connection to Sirianni so that would mean likely just a more refined version of the Sirianni offense.

This is going to be Siriani’s offense, regardless of whoever ends up as OC. Has been that way through every OC here. What we need is a person that can collaboratively pull together a game plan and hopefully adds some creativity into the mix. On gameday he needs to be adaptive and have been predicting what the DC will call, that takes filmwork. (That might be Cooter, who is more a Streichen disciple than a Nick one). But in the end this will have the components and look of Nick’s offense.

I wonder what, if any, say he would have with the staff. That has to impact the candidates’s view of the job. Look how Daboll was able to bring in pretty much who he wanted, for example.

Eagles all new offensive collaboration coaching staff:

Inside run game coordinator

Outside run game coordinator

Cowards draw coordinator

QB designed run coordinator

Pass game coordinator: short throws

Pass game coordinator: intermediate throws

Pass game coordinator: deep throws ("Just call it")

Pass game coordinator: hitch route specialist

Pass game coordinator: WR screen specialist

3rd and long run game specialist

Tush push coordinator

1st down coordinator

2nd down coordinator

3rd down coordinator

4th down coordinator

Red zone coordinator

Two minute drill coordinator

No huddle coordinator

Trick play coordinator

2 point conversation coordinator

Coordinator of the coordinators

Nick Sirianni emotional regulation coordinator

Assistant to the Regional Coordinator

AJ Brown social media & book club coordinator

Landon Dickerson beer selection coordinator

Jalen Hurts quote coordinator

Tank Bigsby bench warming coordinator

Big Dom sweatsuit coordinator

6 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Eagles all new offensive collaboration coaching staff:

Inside run game coordinator

Outside run game coordinator

Cowards draw coordinator

QB designed run coordinator

Pass game coordinator: short throws

Pass game coordinator: intermediate throws

Pass game coordinator: hitch route specialist

Pass game coordinator: WR screen specialist

3rd and long run game specialist

Tush push coordinator

1st down coordinator

2nd down coordinator

3rd down coordinator

4th down coordinator

Red zone coordinator

Two minute drill coordinator

No huddle coordinator

Trick play coordinator

2 point conversation coordinator

Coordinator of the coordinators

Nick Sirianni emotional regulation coordinator

Assistant to the Regional Coordinator

AJ Brown social media & book club coordinator

Landon Dickerson beer selection coordinator

Jalen Hurts quote coordinator

Tank Bigsby bench warming coordinator

Big Dom sweatsuit coordinator

Forgot

Saquon as positivity coordinator

Calcaterra as blocking specialist coordinator

38 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

I think it's going to be Sean Mannion. I also wouldn't rule out them hiring two guys as co-OCs. Just a hunch.

Ya know, I was just about to post earlier that Mannion and Engstrand seem to have complementary strengths/weaknesses. Would imagine Engstrand will have an OC offer since 500 other teams have OC openings, but interesting to think about anyway.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Forgot

Saquon as positivity coordinator

Calcaterra as blocking specialist coordinator

There's always room for more!

(That’s what she said)

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

It’s not exactly encouraging when these young guys decline eagles consideration but then look elsewhere. I’m not an alarmist on this stuff because media reports are usually wrong but it’s hard not to get a little worried.

I do think Lurie challenges them about media readiness. He does that with qb draft picks. Maybe it scares young guys off

Its not crazy that Weis Jr would rather work with Jaxson Dart then Hurts. I would do the same if I was possibly getting an NFL job with a QB I previously worked with and had success with.

If Howie can save Miles Garrett somehow and bring him to Da Birds he can hire Cam Newton for OC for all I care. 🤣 That defense would be ridiculous.

5 hours ago, NOTW said:

Eagles all new offensive collaboration coaching staff:

Inside run game coordinator

Outside run game coordinator

Cowards draw coordinator

QB designed run coordinator

Pass game coordinator: short throws

Pass game coordinator: intermediate throws

Pass game coordinator: deep throws ("Just call it")

Pass game coordinator: hitch route specialist

Pass game coordinator: WR screen specialist

3rd and long run game specialist

Tush push coordinator

1st down coordinator

2nd down coordinator

3rd down coordinator

4th down coordinator

Red zone coordinator

Two minute drill coordinator

No huddle coordinator

Trick play coordinator

2 point conversation coordinator

Coordinator of the coordinators

Nick Sirianni emotional regulation coordinator

Assistant to the Regional Coordinator

AJ Brown social media & book club coordinator

Landon Dickerson beer selection coordinator

Jalen Hurts quote coordinator

Tank Bigsby bench warming coordinator

Big Dom sweatsuit coordinator

I’ll be the Hitch play coordinator. Gotta be the highest paying job on the team!

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