Just now, Cliftoma said:

The problem is that they have ruled otherwise in other situations.

The refs cheated for KC. Both the Texans and Bills outplayed them on the field but the refs fixed both games.

We know this. Its why it was 40-6.

The Chiefs did not belong there.

How does this relate to the refs making the right call yesterday?

7 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Ah yes the Allen excuses are out in full force, nothing about the two reckless fumbles that lost the game.

See the agenda?

He sucked and they lost because of it, what's your point?

There's some revisionist history about Allen. Allen played probably his worst playoff game since his first year or so yesterday. Otherwise he's been great in the playoffs. Dude went into KC and led two TD drives in the final 2 minutes and gave his team the lead with 13 seconds left and the defense couldn't hold it. Every year McDermott's defense gets lit up. That is the biggest reason the Bills haven't gotten over the hump yet, far more than Josh Allen. People act like Allen has Peyton Manning-itis where in the playoffs he suddenly can't perform and that hasn't been true. Like at all.

They let Buffalo get away with DPI the play before they called the first of 2 OT DPIs. (this evens up the no-call on Moss earlier)

The stupid Bills thought they could just blatantly DPI on every play.

They were wrong.

On the first call the DB is holding dudes arm for about 12 to 15 yards and he has to try a 1 handed catch.

The White penalty is absolute text book stupid DB PI.

Look Back! Don't grab him! Hands up to block the ball or reach for the pick!

They did not call the bump contact on a slowing and stopping WR. They called everything else.

White was Bill Buckner bad on that play, don't excuse him because you think refs should let people cheat in OT.

This was not a conspiracy, it was just terrible defense.

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

But that’s the point. You can have similar molds with varying degrees of success. They are very similar. And Wentz was an MVP favorite once too.

That’s like saying Zach Wilson is very similar to prime Aaron Rodgers.

It’s ridiculous. They’re not even close. They’re not the same mold. Not even close. As it looks right now, Carson has one decent year. The rest of his career has been pretty unspectacular.

This was actual refs cheating. No call! Winning TD pass. The one on Baun was even worse.

12 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Honestly this whole sequence highlights how badly the rules on a catch are written. Which takes precedence? What is the sequence? It’s pretty clear that both players had hands on the ball when Cooks knee goes down. Now…do we go with split possession goes to the O or pivot to surviving the ground?

I thought when it happened that it was an interception. Watching how it unfolded he really didn’t survive when he hit the ground keeping control of it. Still pictures and different angles make it even more inconclusive. IMO whatever they ruled on the field was what was gonna stand. So if they would’ve ruled it a catch. I think it would’ve stayed as catch. Honestly, the catch rule is always gonna be a problem just like it was in Super Bowl LII where some fans (most patriots) still don’t think Cory Clement caught that ball in bounce or that ertz’s TD was a TD (clearly is).

The issue to me is more the Buffalo Bills did not lose simply cause of that play. When you have five turnovers, your defense is given up 30+ and you have coaching decisions like you have zero timeouts before the end of the half with 16 seconds at the 30 and you’re trying to run plays, you put yourself in the position you did. There are things you can’t control but how good or bad the officiating is gonna be isn’t one of them. the Buffalo Bills can control is their performance.

i’ve also seen Bills’ fans complaining about the PIs. First one didn’t matter because Joey Bosa is a Fing idiot and got a roughing the passer so instead of 17 yards it would’ve been 15 yards. The other one was a pass interference. It was unfortunate because it was a poorly thrown ball. we’ve seen that happen routinely this year where the defender gets there too early because the ball was under thrown and it causes a PI

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

The thing about Bailey is not only does he have the skills, he's just relentless. He's nonstop, no matter his assignment. Rushing the passer, stopping the run, dropping in coverage, pursuit. His effort doesn't change. You get that kind of guy in here and the whole defense gets better. If he's there at 15, the Jets 3rd round pick is enough to move up to get him.

We really need some QBs to test out of this world and push to the top of the 1st round. Unfortunately, it's a weak QB class so we're going to see DB/Edge/DL go higher than usual.

This draft doesn't seem to be the strongest. Just our luck, in a draft like this we have the additional picks. Howie has a lot of big decisions to make. If you trade up for Bailey, do you extend Smith or Phillips? I'd imagine Vic pounds the table, even a little bit, for Phillips.

IMO, that was an INT. Not a catch.

Bills lost because their QB had a bad game. They've lost in the past because their midget Leprechaun HC is a doofus. I'm glad they lost.

Go Texans! 🤓

The Patriots Defense Path to the Super Bowl

Justin Herbert without an OL (injuries to a pair of all pro level OTs)

CJ Stroud without WR1 Nico Collins and RT Trent Brown.

Jarrett Stidham

Sam Darnold (probably)

And WTF were the Bills doing on O before the 1st half??!! You have no TOs, what, 20 seconds left in the half, and you are running plays from your own like 35 yard line??!! That's on their idiotic OC/HC. You ain't scoring from there. You can't even get into FG range.

10 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

That’s like saying Zach Wilson is very similar to prime Aaron Rodgers.

It’s ridiculous. They’re not even close. They’re not the same mold. Not even close. As it looks right now, Carson has one decent year. The rest of his career has been pretty unspectacular.

Lmao one decent year? Dude was the MVP in 2017 had he not gotten hurt, and honestly still should've gotten it. He almost led every QB category despite playing like 3 less games.

Then 2019 he throws for 4,000 yards and 27 TDs with no receiver above 500 because he was playing with scrubs.

He had one phenomenal year, got hurt, got hurt again the following year, led a limp D offense to the playoffs where he got cheap shotted and then it was over here.

Even Indianapolis 2021 was good year, over 3k with 27 TDs and 7 INTs.

I don't understand the Wentz hate from people in here at all, dude was good talent wise. His problem was (and still is) all mental.

25 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

There's some revisionist history about Allen. Allen played probably his worst playoff game since his first year or so yesterday. Otherwise he's been great in the playoffs. Dude went into KC and led two TD drives in the final 2 minutes and gave his team the lead with 13 seconds left and the defense couldn't hold it. Every year McDermott's defense gets lit up. That is the biggest reason the Bills haven't gotten over the hump yet, far more than Josh Allen. People act like Allen has Peyton Manning-itis where in the playoffs he suddenly can't perform and that hasn't been true. Like at all.

Recency bias to support whatever narrative they're trying to spin

12 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

This was actual refs cheating. No call! Winning TD pass. The one on Baun was even worse.

Officials are bad around the league. That bills/broncos game should’ve ended on a safety if the officials make this call

Bills are hypocrites to the highest order but Allen > Hurts

3 minutes ago, devpool said:

Recency bias to support whatever narrative they're trying to spin

The biggest issue with the bills is not Josh Allen. Now he did not play great yesterday. He was part of that loss. The reality is it goes back to what I said about two years ago, this is the Tony Dungy buccaneers that needed a different voice to get them over the top. McDermott is not the guy that’s going to do it. If he was, his defense would play better in the playoff games they lost. When you’re giving up 33 points per game in your last six playoff losses and your defensive coach it tells me you’re not doing your job very well.

Now there are other problems like roster wise. But when I start seeing players start shifting blame and deflecting off poor performances after losses it’s cause their head coach has done it repeatedly. This is another reason why Id move on. When Sean Payton became available, I said they should just drop McDermott and go get him. Cause he can be your Gruden to help get you over the hump. I don’t think Sean McDermott is a bad coach, but sometimes things run its course and you need a change in direction to get yourself where you wanna go

How did the Eagles lose to SF??!! That's how bad and inconsistent this season was for us.

Oh well. The Bears or Seahawks would have ripped us a new one. 🙃🙃

Crazy stat:

The Bills had 11 drives

6 scores

5 turnovers

If you had to choose between Kingsbury and Daboll who would you choose. We've already gone over the Daboll concerns.

Some Kingsbury concerns:

Offense is very uptempo, would be a stark change from the Eagles slow offense which may be welcome to many, but a very drastic change. Could they handle it?

His offenses typically trail off in the 2nd half of seasons. Possibly because a season of uptempo they tire out?

After the success he had, Wash moved on and the reporting said they want a more pro style offense, Kingsbury is very college style offense centric.

Uses very little motion(much like Daboll)

But his offenses have been productive. Seems to be bright and is willing to run the ball.

Who would you rather have if it came down to those two names? Also, it's notable I don't think Kingsbury has taken a single OC interview yet. Maybe he's waiting to get turned down as head coach before starting them.

Houston is the team this year with that D. Offense just has to not hurt them.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If you had to choose between Kingsbury and Daboll who would you choose. We've already gone over the Daboll concerns.

Some Kingsbury concerns:

Offense is very uptempo, would be a stark change from the Eagles slow offense which may be welcome to many, but a very drastic change. Could they handle it?

His offenses typically trail off in the 2nd half of seasons. Possibly because a season of uptempo they tire out?

After the success he had, Wash moved on and the reporting said they want a more pro style offense, Kingsbury is very college style offense centric.

Uses very little motion(much like Daboll)

But his offenses have been productive. Seems to be bright and is willing to run the ball.

Who would you rather have if it came down to those two names? Also, it's notable I don't think Kingsbury has taken a single OC interview yet. Maybe he's waiting to get turned down as head coach before starting them.

No Chip types. No gimmicks. Just a good mind who gets the most out of people.

go texans..as this is the AFCCG

Stroud with an absolute duck on first down and Kirk with a terrible drop on 3rd down.

Texans defense flying to the ball, but early vibes the Texans offense won’t be able to handle this weather

Guardian cap guy leading with his helmet is a bad look.