I don't think they need a genius OC. I think they need a competent one. They have run creative and innovative plays under Siri, it's not like those plays are gone. It's not like they're not allowed to look at what Steichen did and use similar. They need someone who knows how to game plan and prepare, run a tight ship to get everyone on the same page and organized and know their job, and have experience in the flow of the game and calling the right plays in the right situations, not just panicking and calling whatever. They need someone who can scheme the WRs better to give Jalen better options, someone to better utilize the TE personnel, and recognize what's not working and try something else. They have a lot of talent, an experienced OC who knows what he's doing should be able to have success with them.

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

Thank you

They knew that they could not wait like they have done in the past with this move. To get the best possible options this move had to be now.

New OC needs 100% complete control over the scheme, plays etc. Needs to be someone with stones to tell Jalen how the offense will be run and he either need to be on board or sit the F down at the end of the bench.

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't think they need a genius OC. I think they need a competent one. They have run creative and innovative plays under Siri, it's not like those plays are gone. It's not like they're not allowed to look at what Steichen did and use similar. They need someone who knows how to game plan and prepare, run a tight ship to get everyone on the same page and organized and know their job, and have experience in the flow of the game and calling the right plays in the right situations, not just panicking and calling whatever. They need someone who can scheme the WRs better to give Jalen better options, someone to better utilize the TE personnel, and recognize what's not working and try something else. They have a lot of talent, an experienced OC who knows what he's doing should be able to have success with them.

Just saying I’ve been playing techno Super Bowl for Nintendo, madden for PS5 and nfl 2k on Dreamcast. So i have a vast playbook of plays to go with.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

I still haven't been able to get an answer for what does he do that makes him special. All I get is team stats

McCoy is credited with 2 SBs by team stats but never played on the field

I started a new topic to get people's thoughts on what Nick does. I asked ChatGPT to summarize the responsibilities of an NFL Head Coach that doesn't call plays. It put together a nice list in categories. Check it out. In reviewing the list, what do we think Nick does well? He must be doing something well, the players defend him and they win.

https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/topic/13932-what-does-nick-sirianni-do-as-the-ceo-head-coach/

Bloggers: this is your challenge to get out of your shell (the blog) and go post somewhere else!

It’s so wild to me that Harbaugh and Tomlin have both become available in one of the worst HC hiring cycles in recent memory, and there are vacancies on 7 other teams.

These guys are gonna get a blank check.

Just now, Saltpeter said:

It’s so wild to me that Harbaugh and Tomlin have both become available in one of the worst HC hiring cycles in recent memory, and there are vacancies on 7 other teams.

These guys are gonna get a blank check.

Tomlin isn’t really free. He’s still Pittsburgh’s control. They’d have to ‘trade’ him

Mike Tomlin wants to go somewhere warm. Will the Dolphins want him?

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Mike Tomlin wants to go somewhere warm. Will the Dolphins want him?

Yes I think they do.

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Yes I think they do.

That could be a quick decision then, if Pitt approves the "trade" as you posted a moment ago.

11 minutes ago, NOTW said:

What's the sales pitch to the candidates?

Do they have to submit under Nick's conservative, scared turtle, turnover stat obsessed limitations?

Or do they get to install the offense they think plays to the strengths of the roster and QB as they see fit, within reason and approval from Siri of course?

Do they get to pick their position coaches, other than maybe keeping Stoutland?

Will they have a voice in evaluating the QB, like if they think Hurts isn't it and want to try McKee, would he be allowed? Or is it: make this work with Hurts or else?

Do they accept knowing they will either succeed greatly and get a HC offer after a year, or fail and be fired? Or is there any potential for a 2-3 year arrangement if things go well? Because some candidates will take jobs elsewhere if they get more freedom and won't be fired after just 1 year.

I think we know the answers to these questions.

They won't have to submit to Nick in any way. Nick is the figurehead and Lurie/Howie are taking control via the OC. Doug didn't relent, Nick did. That's not to say Lurie and Howie will micromanage the offense; they will just install someone who they agree with to install the offense and have total control. If Lurie/Howie don't like their blueprint, they won't hire them. Whoever they hire will have a blueprint they want. It's not overbearing; it's how it goes everywhere...just unusual in this situation because it's bypassing the HC.

The Eagles are committed to Hurts, definitely for 2026 and likely for 2027. Any candidate who doesn't want to work with Hurts in his offense simply won't come here.

The risk of getting fired in a year is offset by the talent in the offense and quick turnaround HC potential. And the fact that the talent in said offense is unquestionably eroding is offset by the fact that the offense sucked in 2025...so it will be a bit harder to just get fired in a year when the offense really can't get much worse (although that then brings up the risk of losing their job with a HC change). Basically, it's a high upside high downside job and generally coaches and their egos like that.

An OC job with total control and a fast-pass to a HC job. If there are experienced big names left available after the HC positions fill up (there may not be) and they still go with an unknown, that's why I'll assume it's that these guys don't want to work with Hurts. Because I don't believe Siri will really be in the picture.

FWIW, I think they do nab one of the big names.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yes I think they do.

The Eagles are lucky that there are a lot of really proven offensive coaches just fired from HC positions...and unlucky that there are a lot of HC positions for them to all recycle themselves. I think part of firing Patullo early was certainly to get the conversation going with each of these guys. I'm sure these conversations all go the same way...'good luck in your search for a HC job and keep us in mind if you want/need to be an OC next year.'

FWIW, most vacancies are secured late January with basically all stragglers done before the SB. I don't know if the Eagles would even be able to do interviews before that. Any of these guys set on HC jobs aren't going to want it out there that they are kicking the tires on OC jobs.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles are lucky that there are a lot of really proven offensive coaches just fired from HC positions...and unlucky that there are a lot of HC positions for them to all recycle themselves. I think part of firing Patullo early was certainly to get the conversation going with each of these guys. I'm sure these conversations all go the same way...'good luck in your search for a HC job and keep us in mind if you want/need to be an OC next year.'

FWIW, most vacancies are secured late January with basically all stragglers done before the SB. I don't know if the Eagles would even be able to do interviews before that. Any of these guys set on HC jobs aren't going to want it out there that they are kicking the tires on OC jobs.

Actually McDaniel is interviewing for Lions OC already. Kafka had an AZ HC interview and a Bucs OC interview

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cocaine Mike!!!!!

So would you be getting I’ll bring your daughter home 30 mins before curfew mcdaniels or cocaine kingpin McDaniels

Not sure the local Ross store has enough joggers in stock to support Sirianni and McDaniel.

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Actually McDaniel is interviewing for Lions OC already. Kafka had an AZ HC interview and a Bucs OC interview

Surprising to me. When egos are involved, I figured they wouldn't even want to sniff at the OC job (and wouldn't want to telegraph to owners that they are questioning their future as HCs).

I'd very much prefer Mcdaniel not end up in Detroit as their OC. They've got all the pieces he wants. Probably a better situation and job than here actually.

I think Stefanski for sure gets a HC job. I don't think Daboll gets one. McDaniel I'm not so sure. I don't think he's a HC who is a leader. Really lost control of the lockerrom in Miami. But there are a lot of openings.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Not sure the local Ross store has enough joggers in stock to support Sirianni and McDaniel.

The interaction of Siri and Mcdaniel would be wild. Step Brothers vibes. Just not sure if it would go well or horribly or both.

54 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't get having Kingsbury over McDaniel or Monken. I just don't get the fascination with Kingsbury. I don't think he's bad. But nothing about him stands out as something to get excited about. And there always seems to be some type of conflict with him going on.

I think Kingsbury fits with Hurts but yeah the guy does seem to wear out welcome pretty fast

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I think Stefanski for sure gets a HC job. I don't think Daboll gets one. McDaniel I'm not so sure. I don't think he's a HC who is a leader. Really lost control of the lockerrom in Miami. But there are a lot of openings.

Mcdaniel will nab a HC job if someone falls in love with the offensive genius cliche, since he's still got some of that luster to him. If teams panic about his maturity and ability to command a team, then he'll have to settle for OC. And that Detroit offense with Williams, Gibbs, and an accurate QB is a reincarnation of what he had with his peak offense in Miami. Not sure he'd take Philly over that.

Not sure the Eagles will go for Daboll, but if they do, I think he's our guy. Extensive experience running an offense and the smart money should have him as the one on that list who ends up without a seat in the HC musical chairs.

I don't know what to think about Zac Robinson. Atl O wasn't great but he has experience which Schelhasse does not. We've had success with coordinators whose last stop wasn't great. Another reason to include Kafka in mix

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Mcdaniel will nab a HC job if someone falls in love with the offensive genius cliche, since he's still got some of that luster to him. If teams panic about his maturity and ability to command a team, then he'll have to settle for OC. And that Detroit offense with Williams, Gibbs, and an accurate QB is a reincarnation of what he had with his peak offense in Miami. Not sure he'd take Philly over that.

Not sure the Eagles will go for Daboll, but if they do, I think he's our guy. Extensive experience running an offense and the smart money should have him as the one on that list who ends up without a seat in the HC musical chairs.

Yeah Daboll was OC while Sirriani was WR coach in KC and they have a relationship. Daboll was also OC at Alabama for Hurts & Devonta. That said I don't know what the current state of all those relationships is

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't get having Kingsbury over McDaniel or Monken. I just don't get the fascination with Kingsbury. I don't think he's bad. But nothing about him stands out as something to get excited about. And there always seems to be some type of conflict with him going on.

Yeah. Don't want any part of Kingsbury. He blows.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Would they even need to interact? Get that offense unf***ed <end of conversation>.

If their personalities clash, then McDaniels is a no go. Players feed off their coaches and the defensive players love Vic. They would know if their coach disliked the HC…and would probably begin parroting his beliefs. It makes for bad team mojo

Just saw that in 19 years Mike Tomlin has 0 coaching tree. That's insane and quite frankly a red flag

2 minutes ago, McMVP said:

If their personalities clash, then McDaniels is a no go. Players feed off their coaches and the defensive players love Vic. They would know if their coach disliked the HC…and would probably begin parroting his beliefs. It makes for bad team mojo

McDaniels isn’t the HC, he’s the OC - the guy working the other side of the ball with different players and coaches.