2 hours ago, greend said:

Honestly I like a little athleticism in my qb. Why does it have to be either or?

Doesn't necessarily have to be, but as someone pointed out earlier no one in college is developing athletes into field generals because they don't have to. They just organize a team of athletes and hope to Chip Kelly (big people beat up little people) their way to wins.

So it would be probably 6-8 years of playing organized football never having to really learn how to be a pure passer, and NFL teams have to either overcome that and develop them or just rely on their natural talent. Lately, it seems Burrow is the only one who was ever developed at the college level.

I guess you could also include another category of gunslingers, but it seems like allen is the only gunslinger out there right now. Monster arm, questionable decision making but works more often than not until you get to the playoffs.

If you live on the East, which I assume most of you do, be prepared for a big snow storm this weekend.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It could be worse for the Eagles. They could be the Phillies who think running it back after losing except older and more expensive is a viable formula

Someone here said it best the other day, when one team in Philly disappoints us the others just really pile it on instead of lifting our spirits. Eagles lose in embarassing fashion, Phillies do absolutely nothing and lose one of the top starters, and the flyers started their annual 10 game losing streak (that finally ended last night) all at the same time. Maybe the sixers did something stupid too but I don't watch basketball.

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I was hoping for a career OC but rather just have the best OC and if we have to keep recycling until Nick is fired then that's what we have to do

I'm not sure who a career OC would be. Thought Frank Reich could be for Pederson who called played himself but then we won Reich got a job and we still had issues replacing an OC who didn't call plays. Just get the best person and go from there

11 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

If I’m Sirianni I want to bring in an OC without Head Coach aspirations.

Daboll coming in and making this offense top 5-7 in the league would basically guarantee him a HC opportunity next year when’s there’s another 7-10 openings. In order to keep him we’d have to promote him and move on from Siri.

Either way, let’s not let Siri make anymore OC decisions.

Actually let’s just fire him. He sucks

Strongly disagree. A coach without aspirations is either mediocre and knows it or too old for aspirations. The latter is Fangio, who’s seen that and done that and having done that is happy with defense. Offense these days is full of motion, deception, imagination, and innovation. It’s a young man’s part of the game and young men have aspirations. I want a young guy with just enough age to temper him. Does he want to go to the top of his profession? I would hope so.

I’m not sold on Daboll at all but if if if he came here and made us a top five offense I’d be happy to dump Sirianni and promote him. No disagreement there.

8 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

I would imagine the final pitch to McDaniel is that he gets first crack at HC if Sirianni is canned after 2026.....if the season goes well then McDaniel can seek HC elsewhere like Moore did. But if I am Howie I keep an open mind that McDaniel could very well come here and show more value than Sirianni, making a tough decision after 2026.......regardless if that includes Hurts or not - I guess what I mean is that McDaniel gives you stability if we decide to move on from Hurts.

That's basically the same pitch he has in Tampa though with better weather and no state income tax.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm not sure who a career OC would be. Thought Frank Reich could be for Pederson who called played himself but then we won Reich got a job and we still had issues replacing an OC who didn't call plays. Just get the best person and go from there

I don't know either and that's another reason why I've switched and now just want the best regardless if they're going to be here for 1 year

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's basically the same pitch he has in Tampa though with better weather and no state income tax.

I don't think anybody pitches you can replace our HC if we fire him. Maybe if a guy is close to retirement you can make that pitch but generally I think this is a great opportunity to get your next HC gig is the pitch or the old tried and true we'll pay you a lot of money

24 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

Wrong, just stupid, and limits your search. Bring in the most competent and best option to make this offense Top 5 in 2026. Our window is here.

No reason to look further than 2026 because a year from now there are a ton of possible options for changes. Good or bad season.

I’m talking about Siri’s perspective bunghole. It’s clear he’s OC dependent so an OC that does well here could ultimately replace him. Yes, of course bring in the best guy. Let’s just hope it’s howie’s decision

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I don't think anybody pitches you can replace our HC if we fire him. Maybe if a guy is close to retirement you can make that pitch but generally I think this is a great opportunity to get your next HC gig is the pitch or the old tried and true we'll pay you a lot of money

Well that would also be awkward if it's true that Nick is in the interviews

I'll be 100% honest. I'd be more worried that McDaniel doesn't do well because the team struggles with the change in year 1 then that he does so great that he walks into another job. The fan base has gotten very spoiled with winning that it seems more worried about how we win and what happens after win then it does about actually winning.

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m talking about Siri’s perspective bunghole. It’s clear he’s OC dependent so an OC that does well here could ultimately replace him. Yes, of course bring in the best guy. Let’s just hope it’s howie’s decision

I wouldn't assume Sirianni has any decision making in the OC hiring, so perspective is irrelevant. Despite tweets/reports, Howie is leading this search. Sirianni sits in the corner chair and agrees, or gets shown the door.

17 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I don't think anybody pitches you can replace our HC if we fire him. Maybe if a guy is close to retirement you can make that pitch but generally I think this is a great opportunity to get your next HC gig is the pitch or the old tried and true we'll pay you a lot of money

12 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Well that would also be awkward if it's true that Nick is in the interviews

I didn't mean in the same room LOL......I meant sidebar, Howie talking with McDaniel's agent off record......it could be a stretch in my thinking but don't think that it hasn't crossed Howie's mind....Howie has said before, he has Plan B, Plan C, etc.......I am not so sure Howie, Lurie, Julian and company think that Sirianni is 100% the coach for the foreseeable future. Sirianni got really exposed this year.

1 minute ago, Maga301 said:

I didn't mean in the same room LOL......I meant sidebar, Howie talking with McDaniel's agent off record......it could be a stretch in my thinking but don't think that it hasn't crossed Howie's mind....Howie has said before, he has Plan B, Plan C, etc.......I am not so sure Howie, Lurie, Julian and company think that Sirianni is 100% the coach for the foreseeable future. Sirianni got really exposed this year.

That'd be pretty messed up IMO if Howie/Lurie did that lol and I'm no fan of Nick

One bad convo and that slips and you have unneeded drama during the season

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

That'd be pretty messed up IMO if Howie/Lurie did that lol and I'm no fan of Nick

One bad convo and that slips and you have unneeded drama during the season

It does sound shady I ain't gonna lie haha

16 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'll be 100% honest. I'd be more worried that McDaniel doesn't do well because the team struggles with the change in year 1 then that he does so great that he walks into another job. The fan base has gotten very spoiled with winning that it seems more worried about how we win and what happens after win then it does about actually winning.

The fanbase is "spoiled” because we’ve assembled a roster loaded with Pro Bowl/All Pro talent in a unique draft pick window, and they’ve been unsustainably durable and kept mostly together using unsustainable cap gymnastics.

I can see Brady getting AZ because it's the worst job. As one AZ blogger said it's in a heavyweight division with a cheap owner and no QB. Hard to see AZ passing Rams, 49ers & Seattle anytime soon

Kind of weird Kingsbury news has gone quiet.

Wonder if the eagles don't scoop him up as oc

These crap teams are screwing it up for the Eagles.

What HC jobs are still open?

Bills

Steelers

Ravens

Cardinals

Raiders

Browns

My wish list for OC:

1. McDaniel - would be my favorite because its a completely different direction and show Siri really is giving the offense to someone else. Shanahan style offense, you would get to see a completely different offense. With McDaniel previously being a run game coordinator, would he want Stout out? He would be a one and done that's off to a HC job in 2027

2. Kingsbury - would be solid if they can't get McDaniel. Obviously helped Jayden Daniels produce quickly, has previously interviewed for the OC job before losing out to Moore. Maybe there is a hangup as I haven't seen a request made yet. I think he would also be one and done.

3. Daboll - the most likely and best fit, although not my favorite. He's coached Hurts before and he worked with Sirianni in 2012 in KC. Probably one and done here, possibly could stay longer with the stench of his failed giants and interim browns HC jobs.

4. Kafka - would be the last resort, they lost out on everyone else. Previously drafted by the Eagles, played a little, and has called plays for the past 2+ years. He would be a step above Patullo, but not sure that's what the Eagles are looking for. Think he would last here for at least 2 years before getting HC considerations.

Does it help that all these historically bad teams are filling HC positions now and not so many next year? Might be less opportunities for an OC to get a HC gig next year. There were 10 HC openings, that's crazy. Almost 1/3rd of the league.

3 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

What HC jobs are still open?

Bills

Steelers

Ravens

Cardinals

Raiders

Browns

My wish list for OC:

1. McDaniel - would be my favorite because its a completely different direction and show Siri really is giving the offense to someone else. Shanahan style offense, you would get to see a completely different offense. With McDaniel previously being a run game coordinator, would he want Stout out? He would be a one and done that's off to a HC job in 2027

2. Kingsbury - would be solid if they can't get McDaniel. Obviously helped Jayden Daniels produce quickly, has previously interviewed for the OC job before losing out to Moore. Maybe there is a hangup as I haven't seen a request made yet. I think he would also be one and done.

3. Daboll - the most likely and best fit, although not my favorite. He's coached Hurts before and he worked with Sirianni in 2012 in KC. Probably one and done here, possibly could stay longer with the stench of his failed giants and interim browns HC jobs.

4. Kafka - would be the last resort, they lost out on everyone else. Previously drafted by the Eagles, played a little, and has called plays for the past 2+ years. He would be a step above Patullo, but not sure that's what the Eagles are looking for. Think he would last here for at least 2 years before getting HC considerations.

I see McDaniel being a rental that'll get a HC position again if we're successful

Giants introducing Harbaugh like he's the second coming. Have their alumni there.