Just now, ManuManu said:

Slowik would have been seen as a terrible hire coming off his firing. That’s why he had to take a passing game coordinator job. Who is Callahan? The Titans HC at the time?

Callahan is the former titans coach

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Callahan is the former titans coach

Maybe I’m not following, but was he suggesting hiring Callahan over Patullo last year?

Lurie had to get involved here this season to hush TO midseason here....I mean AJ. I see no world where he comes back. Why? Simple. He wants a new extension with more guaranteed money and will cry til that happens (and that will be the prerequisite for any trade that happens here). And he ain't getting one here, as he actually doesn't deserve one anyway.That's always been his agenda. He chases the money at every possible turn, back from when he was on the Titans. EOD, he totally shad the bed in a big game and had a very very forgetful season. Devante was Devante. And acting like his usual professional self with great results in spite of poor offense and scheme this year etc. Hes the keeper.

I trade AJ, before you get absolutely nothing for him and becomes a malcontent underachieving afterthought. And possibly injured, as he's pretty injury prone these days. Never thought he would age well as he nears 30. See him as a slot receiver going forward. Not beating anyone on a go route these days, unless its perfectly placed. And I mean perfectly. At one time, I thought you could wrangle a 1st for him. Doubt it after this year. Cut your losses and rebuild.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I think there will be, which is why next year as backups will be important. It also isn't accounting for Howie making moves in FA. He was able to add big offensive names and go cheap on D and now it's reversed so I'm confident it will work.

Yeah, I think it will be fine and not some drastic thing. 2-3 rookies this year and the same next. Yeah, I think Howie can nail those picks out of how many he has with half having a year to learn this year and a few the year after.

Maybe you think I'm being too optimistic, which is fine, but you can't be too pessimistic either and assume Cam and Dickerson are both gone, Lane's not coming back next year, they won't draft a good replacement this year, what they get back for Brown won't help rebuild the offense, Tank and SB will both be gone, etc.

It's going to be better than you think.

Another issue is more how many guys can you count on as rookies to be inserted to help you. At some point in time, the defense was reliant on a lot of young players. (I thought the Eagles and Rams did it the right way. What they did was is put A lot of the money into the offense, and then went young on the defense. in my opinion was smart). Those defensive pics were able to hit because they had Fangio and his staff. Because Fangio is so good and his staff is very good They were able to go younger, draft and develop to get them as good as they are. That is why having the right coach in place matters.

When you go look at the offensive side of the ball, you better have the coaching on that side because you’re not gonna be reliant on proven commodities as you won’t have the money too. You’re gonna have to draft and develop them. Which comes into you better have the right coaches in place to maximize them. howie can go into that draft and get those guys, but unless you have the right coaches in place to develop them and allow them to reach their potential you’re gonna be having issues. That is the biggest concern that the eagles should have right now. They have to switch it up because they’re gonna be paying all those defensive guys that they’re gonna be very heavily reliant on the draft and young guys. Which means I need coaches that can develop talent and coaches that know what they’re doing so that they can maximize that talent. This year they were given proven commodities and showed they couldn’t maximize that talent.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe I’m not following, but was he suggesting hiring Callahan over Patullo last year?

I think Diana russini mentioned that he would be involved in their OC job.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Another issue is more how many guys can you count on as rookies to be inserted to help you. At some point in time, the defense was reliant on a lot of young players. (I thought the Eagles and Rams did it the right way. What they did was is put A lot of the money into the offense, and then went young on the defense. in my opinion was smart). Those defensive pics were able to hit because they had Fangio and his staff. Because Fangio is so good and his staff is very good They were able to go younger, draft and develop to get them as good as they are. That is why having the right coach in place matters.

When you go look at the offensive side of the ball, you better have the coaching on that side because you’re not gonna be reliant on proven commodities as you won’t have the money too. You’re gonna have to draft and develop them. Which comes into you better have the right coaches in place to maximize them. howie can go into that draft and get those guys, but unless you have the right coaches in place to develop them and allow them to reach their potential you’re gonna be having issues. That is the biggest concern that the eagles should have right now. They have to switch it up because they’re gonna be paying all those defensive guys that they’re gonna be very heavily reliant on the draft and young guys. Which means I need coaches that can develop talent and coaches that know what they’re doing so that they can maximize that talent. This year they were given proven commodities and showed they couldn’t maximize that talent.

Again,

Just looking at the offensive line

If they draft RT round 1

Guard round 3

Sign MB or another vet who can run block well

Have Steen as a backup along with Williams, F Johnson and the two kids at center

Dept for Cam, depth for Dickerson, depth for Johnson, Williams backs up Maliata

That’s a deep OL with young talent and not complicated

Chances are Howie drafts a few late round OL as well. I doubt he misses on them all.

Get a TE round 2 and trade for a vet or sign DG

Coop and Wilson as WR3 and WR4

Keep Brown for 1 more year.

Tank backs up SB

Offense is good to go next year with young guys learning

Year after that you draft a WR and another guard.

You insert a TE to start the year. That's it. If Brown becomes an issue Howie is making a trade not only to get rid of him but to bring in WR2 or maybe they keep JD. Howie will have it figured out.

8 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Lurie had to get involved here this season to hush TO midseason here....I mean AJ. I see no world where he comes back. Why? Simple. He wants a new extension with more guaranteed money and will cry til that happens (and that will be the prerequisite for any trade that happens here). And he ain't getting one here, as he actually doesn't deserve one anyway.That's always been his agenda. He chases the money at every possible turn, back from when he was on the Titans. EOD, he totally shad the bed in a big game and had a very very forgetful season. Devante was Devante. And acting like his usual professional self with great results in spite of poor offense and scheme this year etc. Hes the keeper.

I trade AJ, before you get absolutely nothing for him and becomes a malcontent underachieving afterthought. And possibly injured as he's pretty injury prone these days. Never thought he would age well as he nears 30. See him as a slot receiver going forward. Not beating anyone on a go route these days, unless its perfectly placed. And I mean perfectly. At one time I thought you could wrangle a 1st for him. Doubt it after this year. Cut your losses and rebuild.

Lots of numbers have been tossed around. If he is a post June 1 trade how much do they eat/save? 

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Again,

Just looking at the offensive line

If they draft RT round 1

Guard round 3

Sign MB or another vet who can run block well

Have Steen as a backup along with Williams, F Johnson and the two kids at center

Dept for Cam, depth for Dickerson, depth for Johnson, Williams backs up Maliata

That’s a deep OL with young talent and not complicated

Get a TE round 2 and trade for a vet or sign DG

Coop and Wilson as WR3 and WR4

Keep Brown for 1 more year.

Tank backs up SB

Offense is good to go next year with young guys learning

Year after that you draft a WR and another guard.

You insert a TE to start the year. That's it. If Brown becomes an issue Howie is making a trade not only to get rid of him but to bring in WR2 or maybe they keep JD. Howie will have it figured out.

Again you are on the assumption everything hits in what they want to do. That’s a perfect world you are providing. Besides stoutland on offense, imo they don’t have the coaching currently in place to do what Fangio and his staff have done with young talent on defense. I think that’s major issue and it’s a major reason why you want the right OC and even HC in place going forward.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think Diana russini mentioned that he would be involved in their OC job.

Callahan stinks. He was pretty clearly boosted by Burrow, Chase and Higgins. He provides no scheme advantage.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again you are on the assumption everything hits in what they want to do. That’s a perfect world you are providing. Besides stoutland on offense, imo they don’t have the coaching currently in place to do what Fangio and his staff have done with young talent on defense. I think that’s major issue and it’s a major reason why you want the right OC and even HC in place going forward.

And you seem to want to be in a world where none of that works. They are going to flop the RT and guard picks? It's not complicated.

In this draft they need

RT for the future

TE

Guard depth

Two spots coaches by Stout and a TE. If they can't coach up one TE we have issues, but only one of them will have to play from the start. He's also going to use more than one pick on the OL so I doubt all of them flop and they already have two young kids at center and Williams backup up JM.

That's it outside of a trade and IF they move Brown Howie will already have a plan for it. That's not major.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

And you seem to want to be in a world where none of that works. They are going to flop the RT and guard picks. It's not complicated.

In this draft they need

RT for the future

TE

Guard depth

Two spots coaches by Stout and a TE. If they can't coach up one TE we have issues. He's also going to use more than one pick on the OL so I doubt all of them flop and they already have two young kids at center and Williams backup up JM.

That's it outside of a trade and IF they move Brown Howie will already have a plan for it. That's not major.

I’m not living in that world. My world currently doesn’t have the offensive coaches in place besides stoutland that have shown they can develop young talent. World of difference with defense when Fangio, Parker and company have proven to do that.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m not living in that world. My world currently doesn’t have the offensive coaches in place besides stoutland that have shown they can develop young talent. World of difference with defense when Fangio, Parker and company have proven to do that.

Lucky for us most of their needs are on the OL and Stout has that covered. They'll need to coach up a TE. If they trade Brown I trust Howie.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Lucky for us most of their needs are on the OL and Stout has that covered. They'll need to coach up a TE. If they trade Brown I trust Howie.

I trust howie to make the AJ Brown trade. I don’t necessarily trust howie to get a wide receiver if he drafts one. Again, how he has done a lot of things well since he’s come back. Besides drafting Smith, his wide receiver evaluations have not been very good. That is a very big concern for me. AJ Brown’s don’t grow on trees. And we haven’t exactly been hitting on our evaluations for wide receivers besides Smith. I also don’t trust moorehead to do his job because frankly, I don’t think he’s done a very good job with talent he’s been given to develop. It feels like besides Smith and brown each player gets worse overtime rather than improving over time

Not really sure what this means

The worst part about Callahan is he doesn’t even know the damn rules. He had no idea that one knee equals two feet when it comes to a catch. His dad should be embarrassed.

Just now, ManuManu said:

The worst part about Callahan is he doesn’t even know the damn rules. He had no idea that one knee equals two feet when it comes to a catch. His dad should be embarrassed.

Which is your worst nightmare: Matt Nagy, Callahan or Arthur Smith?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Which is your worst nightmare: Matt Nagy, Callahan or Arthur Smith?

Man… I feel like Smith is the clear best of the three even though he annoyingly has teacher’s pets he props up. I guess Callahan because I know he stinks. Nagy maybe can be decent when he’s calling plays without having to run the whole team. 

From what I’ve seen online it seems like Kingsbury is likely to be OC for Ravens if Weaver is the guy and probably Minter too. I think that’s why it’s quiet around him. He wants to go there which is understandable. Probably doesn’t need to move his family at all either

Lol the report that it's Hurts has made those facebook groups entertaining while they're trying to deflect

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Which is your worst nightmare: Matt Nagy, Callahan or Arthur Smith?

Just give Patullo another go over Nagy.

16 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Lots of numbers have been tossed around. If he is a post June 1 trade how much do they eat/save? 

Kempski spelled this whole deal out today. Eagles are not gonna hold someone hostage on peeps who are unhappy. Traded Wentz. Traded Ertz. Traded Reddick. Traded Huff. When someone is this unhappy, Howie always finds his way around these dilemmas, and kills it better than anyone. So I'm not too worried here.

Here it is.

Brown is scheduled to count for $23,393,497 on the Eagles' cap this season.

• If he is traded this offseason before June 1, Brown would instead count for $43,515,106 on the Eagles' cap in "dead money." The dead cap charge would still be $43,515,106 if he's traded after June 1, but $27,161,609 of it would count toward the 2027 cap.

• There would be major savings in 2027, 2028, and 2029, when he is scheduled to count for $133,121,609 on the cap during those three seasons combined. That's over $44 million per season. That's all gone if they were to trade him now. 

• The Eagles would also save $113 million in cash payouts to Brown if he had otherwise played out his contract in full, including $29 million in 2026. That is money that can go toward signing young star defensive players like Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Jalyx Hunt, Nolan Smith, etc.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lol the report that it's Hurts has made those facebook groups entertaining while they're trying to deflect

There’s some wild crap popping up in my feed.

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Kempski spelled this whole deal out today. Eagles are not gonna hold someone hostage on peeps who are unhappy. Traded Wentz. Traded Ertz. Traded Reddick. Traded Huff. When someone is this unhappy, Howie always finds his way around these dillemas, and kills it better than anyone. So I'm not too worried here.

Here it is.

Brown is scheduled to count for $23,393,497 on the Eagles' cap this season.

• If he is traded this offseason before June 1, Brown would instead count for $43,515,106 on the Eagles' cap in "dead money." The dead cap charge would still be $43,515,106 if he's traded after June 1, but $27,161,609 of it would count toward the 2027 cap.

• There would be major savings in 2027, 2028, and 2029, when he is scheduled to count for $133,121,609 on the cap during those three seasons combined. That's over $44 million per season. That's all gone if they were to trade him now. 

• The Eagles would also save $113 million in cash payouts to Brown if he had otherwise played out his contract in full, including $29 million in 2026. That is money that can go toward signing young star defensive players like Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Jalyx Hunt, Nolan Smith, etc.

That's exactly right which is what people overlook with 'dead cap'. Howie looks at it in 3 year windows. If they trade they are saving his salary this year which is less money over 3 years no matter what. Prior to June 1st it moves all the hit to this year which means he'd have to rework other people's contracts and he's done that a lot already so it's tricky. After June 1st it's easy really but that would only get you 2027 picks. That could be ok but you'd be hurting this year

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

There’s some wild crap popping up in my feed.

The Hurts thing may or may not be true but it's still fun to watch the reactions in those groups lol