Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I saw that on facebook a week or 2 ago and figured it was some fake AI story.

It started off as a few conspiracy nuts but grew to the point where the GM commented on it like an idiot.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is really weird messaging. You have to imagine a HC offer is a long shot at this point.

They were talking about Flores on Fox Sports radio. Brought up a point that he still has a lawsuit going against the NFL so it would be highly unlikely someone hires him.

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Be careful about assuming a coach goes elsewhere because of Howie/Siri/personnel.

Most are married, so wives have a big say. Location.

Many may think they'd have a better shot at HC elsewhere (i..e. next in line if the HC falters).

And some may feel the personnel aren't a good fit, though I'd think they would have confidence that Howie can make needed changes, he's certainly the GM you want dealing for you.

Yep. And while I'm not saying this is fair or not (I have no opinion), Philadelphia doesn't exactly have the best reputation among families for living safely, that's why a non insignificant amount of people from the NFL tend to have homes outside of the area, even if they work in Philadelphia. Things wives tend to think about a lot.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

And when he gets injured we have no one for such amount of time

Sounds like a lot of teams when their WR goes down? We need a #2 but that's the normal situation, when your #1 WR goes down, you get a backup?

QB and RB usually have to pick up the slack, right?

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the two Clemson OT's are players the Eagles would like for tackle. Uber athletic, very good measurables.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

If DG is gone Howie needs to make a trade and draft one high. That being said I'd still try to bring him back.

AJ is probably gone after this year, but why eat that money and open a giant hole this year when they don't have to? If someone amazing is there grab him in the draft. If not run it back.

They have two options at center to backup Jurgens this year. Roll with them

We keep hearing Williams would have been considered in the first round this year if he went back to T. Hopefully, he's a good depth piece behind Maliata.

Drafting a guard in the first few rounds should be a priority if Dickerson goes or not. There has to be a vet who can run block better than Steen and that would be my priority because if the run game gets going that offense moves. Steen is fine as a backup.

A young RT won't have to take over right away if Lane is back. If not you have F Johnson start for most of the year until the kid is ready.

2027 will have change, but the OC won't need to be dealing with that as a major issue this year if they do things right. They can't patch all the holes with 23, 54, 68, 98, 122, and 137, but they should be able to get a few and make that transition a lot easier. They also can't just draft offense high if they let JP and Blank go, which is another reason they shouldn't trade Brown this year.

I'm optimistic for next year and the future.

I'm not onboard for Proctor at tackle, but if they want to bring Proctor in for RG, now that would be very intriguing. But it might be a little rich to go that route with pick 23. There's some round two guys I'd be ok with at guard but they won't have Proctors mammoth size. It's like Becton but he doesn't have Becton athletic ability, but doesn't have his injury history either.

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

We got Doug and Siriani because no one with better options wanted to come coach here. That's a simple fact. The Eagles and their FO were not in a good spot amongst league circles at the time that both of them were hired.

Neither was anything special, but both won superbowls. So in fairness, we've been here before.

That's both a compliment and a criticism of the current situation. Stop beating around the bush...the coaches with options don't want to come here. But again, Lurie and Howie have turned this situation into a Championship twice before.

Only gets worse with stories about houses being egged and with rabid movements to fire coaches who won Super Bowls only just prior.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Howie did this a few years ago, cast a wide net, interview a bunch of guys.

It's not just finding your guy (I'd think Howie does his due diligence) but getting outside perspectives on the organization, from personnel evaluations to play calling and scheme.

What other people think your strengths and weaknesses are and how they'd address them. Who fits the scheme they'd want to run.

If you interview for the job and haven't done your homework and don't have something interesting to contribute, it's probably a short interview.

You know those outside perspectives are going to be heavily colored. Some candidates are telling you what you want to hear. The reach candidates who may be less interested…there’s a narrow window of opportunity to gain their functional consulting report on your organization before the graciously decline and blow smoke up your ass.

That’s any interview for a high ranking spot in a large organization when you are bringing in candidates from a small, incestuous pool of candidates.

Wide net is great, but the perspectives can be of variable value.

48 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

So basically trade one moody head case for a complete unadulterated lunatic?

Cool, cool, cool.

Seriously, people think AJ is bad wait til that lunatic comes in.

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Titans roster isn’t more stacked. Titans provide full, complete autonomy unless the GM or Owner get involved. They likely offer more job security too.

Daboll strikes me as a guy who wouldn’t want to work for someone who worked for him before. Also if I remember correctly he didn’t want eagles job in Sirriani year

If Daboll really does prefer the Titans OC job to the Eagles than he is a complete and total moron. Cam Ward sucks and their roster is utter trash.

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Callahan is the former titans coach

Oh, you didn't mean Tommy Callahan?

Here he shows O linemen some technique.

Just now, NOTW said:

Oh, you didn't mean Tommy Callahan?

Here he shows O linemen some technique.

Brothers don't shake hands, brothers gotta hug.

59 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

So basically trade one moody head case for a complete unadulterated lunatic?

Cool, cool, cool.

Pickens would punch hurts in the face after 3 games, then walk out on the team like Antonio brown. He would be an absolutely horrible pick up

So if some think that Nagy the OC was responsible for the best QB in the NFL and 3 time SB winning team with HOF coach Andy Reid having a down year...

🤔

54 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Not mid way thru the year. They still had a shot at the playoffs going into December. They didn't get eliminated till the middle of December.

If Nagy was the one bringing Mahomes down, Reid should have pushed him aside alot earlier and took control of the offense himself.

True, but they weren’t going anywhere and they knew it, they were 5-6 or so and three games out of the division with a less than 10% chance to go to the playoffs. I exaggerated a bit but not much.

So the Eagles even when the build a Super Bowl winner are still kinda like someone that goes from poor to winning the lottery and doesn't know how to sustain it.

They had the best opportunity to repeat as SB champions this year given the state of the competition and the stacked roster Howie built. They needed to either convince/pay Moore to stay for consistency, or hire an OC with actual play calling experience. Remain "all in" for more championships. The 2018 roster wasn't really sustainable, this one was. And I'm not kidding when I say they could have realistically been a team to 3peat with this roster.

Now, they look bad firing and making rash decisions for a team that's made the playoffs 5 years in a row. The reports that AJ wanted a trade, Nick was almost fired twice in the previous 2 seasons, etc. Whether these things are true or not, the drama and smoke around this team is never ending. Now they are in situation where the Head Coach (who I will say does some things well) isn't capable of fixing the roster and OC issues, and they have a championship roster that needs an OC to be the savior...or the scapegoat. Return AJ Brown to form, finally answer the question of whether it's Nick, Hurts, both or neither.

In 2 years they may have to rebuild the core of the offense. If you're hiring a new HC/OC combo that plans to rebuild their offense around a QB of their choosing, a young TE and WR (replacing Goedert and AJ who will be gone), perhaps a young RB to pair with Bigsby if/when Barkley is gone, perhaps new O linemen replacing Lane, maybe Jurgens, etc. While Fangio and the core defensive talent lock down a strong offense. But you also have to draft to replace defensive guys that are leaving too. I believe the version of Howie that we've had lately is here to stay. He's going to draft well enough (and every team makes mistakes in the draft) to keep the team able to win.

There's SO much pressure on the new OC to win next year or else. Because AJ, Hurts (likely?), Barkley and 2 maybe 3 O linemen will be gone after that. If things go south next year then Nick will be fired, the core of the offense will be shaken up and a new HC/OC combo will have to get them back to the SB...while the defense is still great. Whew. High pressure situation.

Also if Nick is fired next year that's two coaches fired not long after winning a SB. High, high expectations.

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

So the Eagles even when the build a Super Bowl winner are still kinda like someone that goes from poor to winning the lottery and doesn't know how to sustain it.

They had the best opportunity to repeat as SB champions this year given the state of the competition and the stacked roster Howie built. They needed to either convince/pay Moore to stay for consistency, or hire an OC with actual play calling experience. Remain "all in" for more championships. The 2018 roster wasn't really sustainable, this one was. And I'm not kidding when I say they could have realistically been a team to 3peat with this roster.

Now, they look bad firing and making rash decisions for a team that's made the playoffs 5 years in a row. The reports that AJ wanted a trade, Nick was almost fired twice in the previous 2 seasons, etc. Whether these things are true or not, the drama and smoke around this team is never ending. Now they are in situation where the Head Coach (who I will say does some things well) isn't capable of fixing the roster and OC issues, and they have a championship roster that needs an OC to be the savior...or the scapegoat. Return AJ Brown to form, finally answer the question of whether it's Nick, Hurts, both or neither.

In 2 years they may have to rebuild the core of the offense. If you're hiring a new HC/OC combo that plans to rebuild their offense around a QB of their choosing, a young TE and WR (replacing Goedert and AJ who will be gone), perhaps a young RB to pair with Bigsby if/when Barkley is gone, perhaps new O linemen replacing Lane, maybe Jurgens, etc. While Fangio and the core defensive talent lock down a strong offense. But you also have to draft to replace defensive guys that are leaving too. I believe the version of Howie that we've had lately is here to stay. He's going to draft well enough (and every team makes mistakes in the draft) to keep the team able to win.

There's SO much pressure on the new OC to win next year or else. Because AJ, Hurts (likely?), Barkley and 2 maybe 3 O linemen will be gone after that. If things go south next year then Nick will be fired, the core of the offense will be shaken up and a new HC/OC combo will have to get them back to the SB...while the defense is still great. Whew. High pressure situation.

Also if Nick is fired next year that's two coaches fired not long after winning a SB. High, high expectations.

Sounds great. Much better situation than anyone in our division. Love it.

4 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Sounds great. Much better situation than anyone in our division. Love it.

True!

Maybe we'll 3peat as division winners again!

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Is that inspiration for your next odd AI video?

Just now, NOTW said:

Is that inspiration for your next odd AI video?

If anything my season opener hype video was inspiration for that guy's tweet.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

If Daboll really does prefer the Titans OC job to the Eagles than he is a complete and total moron. Cam Ward sucks and their roster is utter trash.

Don’t forget their ownership is also god awful

So from what I just read DAL has had their last in person interview for the DC role today, Parker. Tuesday they had Gannon in for his in person interview. There is a possibility they wait and have an in person interview with Leonhard prior to making a decision, he did a virtual interview last week.

It’s likely going to come down to Gannon, Leonhard, Parker, or Daronte Jones, he was also in DAL for an interview last week.

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Only Gannon has called plays in the NFL of those candidates.

I can’t see them promoting Whitecotton.

I don’t want a retread (Gannon), and IF he were to have a couple of good years he would be back on the HC interview circuit. I hope they go with Jones or Leonhard. They supposedly targeted those two because of their success as passing game coordinators in their games against the DAL offense this year.

It’s a crap shoot either way, I say go younger, see what an unknown (in a coordinator role) can do. Gotta be better than Flus.

35 minutes ago, NOTW said:

So the Eagles even when the build a Super Bowl winner are still kinda like someone that goes from poor to winning the lottery and doesn't know how to sustain it.

They had the best opportunity to repeat as SB champions this year given the state of the competition and the stacked roster Howie built. They needed to either convince/pay Moore to stay for consistency, or hire an OC with actual play calling experience. Remain "all in" for more championships. The 2018 roster wasn't really sustainable, this one was. And I'm not kidding when I say they could have realistically been a team to 3peat with this roster.

Now, they look bad firing and making rash decisions for a team that's made the playoffs 5 years in a row. The reports that AJ wanted a trade, Nick was almost fired twice in the previous 2 seasons, etc. Whether these things are true or not, the drama and smoke around this team is never ending. Now they are in situation where the Head Coach (who I will say does some things well) isn't capable of fixing the roster and OC issues, and they have a championship roster that needs an OC to be the savior...or the scapegoat. Return AJ Brown to form, finally answer the question of whether it's Nick, Hurts, both or neither.

In 2 years they may have to rebuild the core of the offense. If you're hiring a new HC/OC combo that plans to rebuild their offense around a QB of their choosing, a young TE and WR (replacing Goedert and AJ who will be gone), perhaps a young RB to pair with Bigsby if/when Barkley is gone, perhaps new O linemen replacing Lane, maybe Jurgens, etc. While Fangio and the core defensive talent lock down a strong offense. But you also have to draft to replace defensive guys that are leaving too. I believe the version of Howie that we've had lately is here to stay. He's going to draft well enough (and every team makes mistakes in the draft) to keep the team able to win.

There's SO much pressure on the new OC to win next year or else. Because AJ, Hurts (likely?), Barkley and 2 maybe 3 O linemen will be gone after that. If things go south next year then Nick will be fired, the core of the offense will be shaken up and a new HC/OC combo will have to get them back to the SB...while the defense is still great. Whew. High pressure situation.

Also if Nick is fired next year that's two coaches fired not long after winning a SB. High, high expectations.

I kind of alluded to this earlier today, when you replace the guys on defense, you have a coach on that side of the ball and his staff that you trust can develop guys. That not only gonna develop guys they’re also gonna use them in ways that’s to the best of their ability and their talent. You trust Fangio and his staff to maximize the talent they are given.

My concern with the Eagles is how is that gonna work on the offensive end when you have to start rebuilding and revamping the offense. Aj Brown is going to be gone either this year or next. Goedert is likely gone. Lane is going to retire at some point. Then Barkley is going to be 30 after 2026. Steen is likely gone after 2026. Who knows that quarterback because I think that is still determined long-term how Jalen does this year and probably in 2027. But you’re gonna have to revamp and there’s probably gonna be guys that we think we’re gonna be here that might not actually be here with all that much longer. Now I trust Jeff Stoutland to do his job in developing guys and getting them to play to their peak potential. Cause he’s basically shown us that since he’s gotten here. Everywhere else I can’t say that.

The other thing that is concerning more than wins and losses is this passing game since about that 49ers game in 2023 has been consistently like pulling teeth. They’ll have flashes or a game of what they can be. But they’re never consistency in the passing game. week to week never know what the hell you are going to get. And this isn’t you have to play at your peak every week. That is not realistic. But if we’re being honest with ourselves, I think everyone would feel a lot better about the eagles offense going forward if the passing game made improvements from 2024 to 2025. Except it didn’t.

Imo it’s not about you have to win the Super Bowl every year. To me my biggest frustration is that this offense needs to have an all time historic run game to be competent and function over the last 2 years. I don’t think banking on having a historic run game every year or every other year is a sustainable plan to make up for a pass game that finishes bottom 10 in back to back years.

this is interesting not in that Brian Johnson was good but in that the results have been going downhill outside of the 2024 running game since 2022.

We obviously need a new system