3 minutes ago, greend said:

Ummm, this isn't happening at this point of Nick's career.

Why not?

2 minutes ago, greend said:

I think they have to pay his whole contract no matter what job he gets. That said money is not the reason he's not getting fired. You don't fire a coach 1 year after a superbowl win.

Yeah they were never firing sirianni one year removed from winning a SB. The only possible way that could’ve even remotely been a discussion is if he was like I’m not coming back unless Kevin Pattulo is my OC. And I don’t think he was dying on that hill after watching what that offense was all year. 

I think 2026 is big for hurts and for Sirianni. If they go out and get one of the better OCs and the offense still isn’t functioning at the level we want then what do you do? Unless they just get a rash of injuries and that is the cause, I have to think one of those two has to be removed. Those are the two biggest pieces. So if it fails again to look functional and the way that Jeffrey Lurie envisions, then i think something major has to be done. cause it would be 3 out of 4 years since 2022 that offense has had issues. Even 2023 it began trending the opposite direction after the 49ers game 

6 minutes ago, greend said:

I think they have to pay his whole contract no matter what job he gets. That said money is not the reason he's not getting fired. You don't fire a coach 1 year after a superbowl win.

I agree with your last statement, but money does play a role. His first contract was $7 million annually. After 2 SB, 1 victory, playoffs every year, he is likely in the $10-$15 million annually until 2029-30? Can't just throw away $40-$55 million while paying another HC a similar annual salary.

Howie is more important than any HC. He knows how to build a championship roster where it’ll have success with any mid coach. The day we get an elite HC will be a great day.

33 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

True.

Also true that we don’t have to sit there and feel like we are getting our teeth pulled watching this offense this weekend. I don’t know if anybody feels this way it felt like a punishment to have to watch that off offense all year. Unlike the defense most of the year

Definitely felt that way for me. After they lost my wife said sorry, and I said dont be its finally over and I dont have to watch anymore.

This was not an enjoyable season from a spectators view.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Definitely felt that way for me. After they lost my wife said sorry, and I said dont be its finally over and I dont have to watch anymore.

This was not an enjoyable season from a spectators view.

Lol my family group chat was like that. I was like don’t be i hated having to watch that offense every week. My dad was like i knew you were going to say that

The thing is, I’ve watched bad Eagles football before. It happens. It sucks and you get frustrated. But I can understand that. Some of those teams just didn’t have the talent or personnel to do the job. When I start watching other games around the league this year there were teams with less talent (even if the Eagles talent wasn’t playing at the level we thought they should) but those less talented teams looked functional. It looked like the Eagles were always dysfunctional and disjointed as an offense. They’d have three drives every game where you thought man this team looks like the best team in the NFL. And then 7-8 where they looked worse than the New York Jets offense.

Needs to be the QB coach

Yeah, he isn't my choice

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Needs to be the QB coach

I said this yesterday cause I had a couple Arizona coaches that I’m friends with (he’s come to games and to some practices since he’s retired) tell me he doesn’t want to be a coach right now. He likes doing what he’s doing in the media/podcast world and he gets to be around his kids who are younger. maybe that’s changed since early October. But I don’t see him getting into coaching right now.

I think you would be perfect at it. Cause he’s very smart. he knows how to articulate what he sees in a way so that anyone can understand it and he’s very relatable.

Just now, Utebird said:

And hes never called plays before, its a skill, not saying he couldnt do it or be good at it but hes never shown he can do it or be good at it.

Plus if he sucks how are fans going to feel berating St.Nock?

Nick doesn't want to work 18 hour days. Nick is not an option. As an offensive consultant? Maybe. As a full time coach? Not a chance.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Needs to be the QB coach

Nick foles has never called plays before, not saying he cant or would suck at it just that hes never shown he can or be good at it, and if he sucks at it how are fans going to feel berating St. Nick?

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Nick foles has never called plays before, not saying he cant or would suck at it just that hes never shown he can or be good at it, and if he sucks at it how are fans going to feel berating St. Nick?

No way he could step in there and be an OC right away. He needs more time in coaching to get there. I do think he could be an assistant Qb coach then get Qb coach within a couple years.

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I wouldn’t support keeping Patullo on in any form — and I doubt any OC candidate worth a darn would either — but him running to Fitzpatrick to say it wasn’t his fault and he deserves credit for the red zone should immediately eliminate him from consideration. It’s hard to envision him being a good soldier under a new OC.

Fitz was an a-hole to say it publicly but it's good to know

31 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Unfortunately, money plays a role. Trading Brown or Hurts is not feasible this off season and maybe next. Firing Nick now will cost a lot of money. And they likely would have to pay him until he gets another job. He wouldn't get a HC position nor the HC salary. Time may come but this off season it's just too much $$ for the team to do this kind of thing.

It's the owners money and not the cap. That's why there are coaches currently being paid and not on any team. Gruden had that massive contract but then was let go and was still paid

29 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I read this like a week ago.

ESPN.com

Ravens' Monken: 'Didn't coach Lamar well enough'

OC Todd Monken accepted the blame for quarterback Lamar Jackson's regression in his third season in the system, telling the "Ryan Ripken Show" he "didn't coach Lamar well enough" and "didn't have as g

He was the OC during Lamar's biggest improvement years

26 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I wouldn’t support keeping Patullo on in any form — and I doubt any OC candidate worth a darn would either — but him running to Fitzpatrick to say it wasn’t his fault and he deserves credit for the red zone should immediately eliminate him from consideration. It’s hard to envision him being a good soldier under a new OC.

My concern is that keeping Patullo has the hallmarks of the Press Taylor and Rich Scangarello season. He's going to have conflicting loyalties and just may not do what the OC wants him to do because Nick doesn't agree with it.

21 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I agree with your last statement, but money does play a role. His first contract was $7 million annually. After 2 SB, 1 victory, playoffs every year, he is likely in the $10-$15 million annually until 2029-30? Can't just throw away $40-$55 million while paying another HC a similar annual salary.

It happens. That said it doesn't matter. He's not on the hotseat

I really hope it's not true. It makes no sense for Howie/Lurie to allow it

Thought I quoted the post lol meant for allowing KP to stay in some capacity

11 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Nick foles has never called plays before, not saying he cant or would suck at it just that hes never shown he can or be good at it, and if he sucks at it how are fans going to feel berating St. Nick?

He called a play in the SB

11 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Nick foles has never called plays before, not saying he cant or would suck at it just that hes never shown he can or be good at it, and if he sucks at it how are fans going to feel berating St. Nick?

This is Philadelphia I don't see a problem berating anyone

Just now, Diehardfan said:

He called the best play in the SB

Fyp

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

We are so close to fresh ideas territory.

Whomever they end up getting for OC they have got to nail the hire or we could be looking at a full on rebuild and a new head coach and/or QB in 2027. This is going to be a tricky process though because there are so many head coaching openings and the situation here is unique. You also want to hire THE best guy for the job but do you really want someone who will almost definitely leave for a head coaching job in 2027 assuming they have success here in 2026. It's kind of becoming groundhog day here when it comes to OC hires. They either lose someone to a head coaching job, or hire the absolute wrong person and they are one and done. As much as I want a dynamic offensive guy like McDaniel or Stefanski I don't see either one NOT getting a head coaching job and even IF they were to land them they would likely be gone after one season.

I think Todd Monken is THE perfect candidate because of what he was able to do with Lamar, what that offense looked like, and the fact that he would be content to be an OC long term. You could easily replicate that Baltimore offense by simply adding a FB, drafting a couple of TE's, and going run heavy with Hurts, Saquon, and Tank. I realize people expect Monken to just go with Harbaugh but he is already interviewing in Tampa for their OC job away from Harbaugh so it appears he is a possibility. Bring him in and give him full autonomy over the offense like Vic has with the defense and tell Nick to be a good cheerleader and best buddy to all of the players. So yeah I am officially endorsing Monken as my number one choice.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, he isn't my choice

Where’s this coming from? I know that was the year Tua came in and everything, but both Hurts/Daboll have seemed complimentary of each other over the years. Hurts usually throws in a subtle dig if he wants to be critical- can’t recall any of that. And Daboll has been effusive with his praise - "he’s very special to me” or something like that.

I’d be way more concerned about the Sirianni relationship than the Hurts one.

Also, he got a hell of a lot out of Daniel Jones that first year. Got earlier than expected high level production out of Allen and Dart. People forget just how much of a project Allen was coming out of Wyoming. Now maybe the Bills and to a lesser extent the Giants just won the lottery with the Allen/Dart picks and maybe the first Daniel Jones year was a fluke - but it seems to me that Daboll does a pretty damn good job with mobile QBs.

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, he isn't my choice

No thanks to Dumbbell.