5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

They clashed because they had a bad season and they had a bad season because of injuries (mainly Daniels)

... and also because every free agent they signed was like 57 years old

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Doyle feels like they are building a pipeline for the future more than considering him for the OC job.

He certainly would be a tough sell considering the issues we’ve had with first-time playcallers here, but I very much like his background with Payton and Johnson. I like that he was a TE coach because it involves both passing and running concepts with TEs serving in line and as receivers.

Watching the Bears, it felt like they played a completely different sport than us. I know he isn’t a carbon copy of Johnson and Payton, but I’m willing to take a chance based on what appears available to us at the moment.

Bears would have to approve that wouldn't they since it's a lateral move?

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He certainly would be a tough sell considering the issues we’ve had with first-time playcallers here, but I very much like his background with Payton and Johnson. I like that he was a TE coach because it involves both passing and running concepts with TEs serving in line and as receivers.

Watching the Bears, it felt like they played a completely different sport than us. I know he isn’t a carbon copy of Johnson and Payton, but I’m willing to take a chance based on what appears available to us at the moment.

The no play calling is a huge risk considering he’s also only been an OC one year but the best case scenario is a lifeline in these dark times. Slowik still interests me a lot too

Just now, tuffstuff07 said:

Bears would have to approve that wouldn't they since it's a lateral move?

If it’s for more responsibility they have to allow it I believe

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He certainly would be a tough sell considering the issues we’ve had with first-time playcallers here, but I very much like his background with Payton and Johnson. I like that he was a TE coach because it involves both passing and running concepts with TEs serving in line and as receivers.

Watching the Bears, it felt like they played a completely different sport than us. I know he isn’t a carbon copy of Johnson and Payton, but I’m willing to take a chance based on what appears available to us at the moment.

After Slowic, seemed the best option would be a home run swing on an up and comer. Now we have more than just Weiss Jr in that category and this guy has NFL experience.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He certainly would be a tough sell considering the issues we’ve had with first-time playcallers here, but I very much like his background with Payton and Johnson. I like that he was a TE coach because it involves both passing and running concepts with TEs serving in line and as receivers.

Watching the Bears, it felt like they played a completely different sport than us. I know he isn’t a carbon copy of Johnson and Payton, but I’m willing to take a chance based on what appears available to us at the moment.

Lurie has never been shy about hiring young talent if a bit unproven. I like it. Get a guy with some room to grow

This OC search is starting to remind me of the head coach search where they hired Sirianni. They had some targets they wanted. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, think there was a couple others. Remember at the time when they didn't get either, they stepped back and kind of reassessed and reset the table with their candidates. And that's when you got Josh McDaniels out of nowhere and Nick Sirianni.

Feels like if they can't get McDaniel or Daboll they aren't super enthused about any of the other candidates and are hoping someone wows them.

Still hoping we hear an interview with Brady and Monken though. If they don't even talk to either that would be disconcerting.

6 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Bears would have to approve that wouldn't they since it's a lateral move?

Does being named to OC/play caller make it a promotion? If not then the only chance foe guys like Doyle, LaFleur in LA to get a chance at play calling is for their head coaches to turn it over to them or they get a HC position.

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Still hoping we hear an interview with Brady and Monken though. If they don't even talk to either that would be disconcerting.

fwiw Brady hasn't done any OC interviews yet. I think you'd have to wait for the dust to settle on Bills hire which could be a week or more. Monken did interview in Tampa but he doesn't seem like an actual OC candidate except for Harbaugh

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Big drop from Williams to Hurts. Imo

Part doesn't like it because he's never called plays before

Another part says F it.. if it ends disastrous then Nick is gone so that's a plus

Sign me up for Declan Doyle as my #1 choice

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Big drop from Williams to Hurts. Imo

From a pure physical talent perspective, for sure. But that would be the case most places he would go to.

41 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

They clashed because they had a bad season and they had a bad season because of injuries (mainly Daniels).

I could be wrong but just a hunch that I think he’d mesh well with the coaches, players, culture, etc.

Daboll and Siri would have fist fought before camp even started

It was a lot more than just a bad season, it happened mostly in the offseason. Kingsbury didn't like how much Peters was involved when it came to the draft, the offensive system, the players he brought in etc. He disagreed with Quinn on how they should play Daniels and develop him. He also had falling outs with players when he was in Arizona.

I'm not saying he can't come in and mesh well and he's some Chip Kelly like personality. But if he's coming in, you are going to have to give him what he wants. Nick would have to take the back seat, not Kliff. And that's if he can work with Howie who is absolutely heavily involved in everything. If the report is true and Kingsbury didn't come here in 2024 because it was over Stoutland, it doesn't seem like he's the easiest guy to work with.

13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

fwiw Brady hasn't done any OC interviews yet. I think you'd have to wait for the dust to settle on Bills hire which could be a week or more. Monken did interview in Tampa but he doesn't seem like an actual OC candidate except for Harbaugh

Tampa just signed robinson I thought I saw

Just now, tuffstuff07 said:

Tampa just signed robinson I thought I saw

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He certainly would be a tough sell considering the issues we’ve had with first-time playcallers here, but I very much like his background with Payton and Johnson. I like that he was a TE coach because it involves both passing and running concepts with TEs serving in line and as receivers.

Watching the Bears, it felt like they played a completely different sport than us. I know he isn’t a carbon copy of Johnson and Payton, but I’m willing to take a chance based on what appears available to us at the moment.

There's a lot to like, he's just extremely green. He's 29 years old and has 3 years total experience in the NFL outside of being an assistant. I don't think you can hand him the keys to the offense which means Nick is back to being involved or were bringing in multiple guys to help out which could turn into another 2020.

If it were up to me, I'd go with him over Cooter or Kafka or these other uninspiring names. I just don't think Lurie/Howie would.

Gargano says it will be Nagy or Kafka 🤮

Berman said keep an eye out for Joe Brady if he doesn't get a head coach job. Also wonders if Kingsbury will enter back into the mix at some point.

Another thing about this hiring cycle, is no one waiting for one of the playoffs coaches to drop as HC candidates? You'd think there would be some interest in the OCs who are making maye, darnold, and nix look good. Also irks me be cause every time the eagles have a good OC they get nabbed for a HC job, now there are 10 HC gigs and it doesnt sound like any of them are being talked about getting poached

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

I need @just relax opinion on Freeling. Seems like he is rising all of a sudden

I like him a lot. He needs coaching because he's been getting by on athleticism and size but he has all the tools. Stoutland could turn him into a 10-year starter.in one season. Probably won't be there for us unless we move up.

I feel like Doyle would be decent. Chicagos offense moves the ball well just to many turnovers from Caleb sometimes.

Also he might be interested in keeping stout

9 minutes ago, devpool said:

Another thing about this hiring cycle, is no one waiting for one of the playoffs coaches to drop as HC candidates? You'd think there would be some interest in the OCs who are making maye, darnold, and nix look good. Also irks me be cause every time the eagles have a good OC they get nabbed for a HC job, now there are 10 HC gigs and it doesnt sound like any of them are being talked about getting poached

A lot of playoff guys already interviewed. They can't talk again from last weekend through next Monday if they are still in the playoffs. Klint Kubiak, Nate Scheelhaase, Chris Shula, Vance Joseph, Davis Webb, Mike LaFleur were all linked to HC jobs or possible OC jobs.