28 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Fowler mentioned what I've been saying on here in that Daboll to the Titans is not a done deal and it could still happen with the Eagles.

I do think he'll end up Bills HC though.

that's a bit of good news.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

They now have an excellent RB, and no WRs. So, yeah he adapted to the personnel. Still, is it a great scheme? I dont think so. And its still saved a lot by a QB who can play hero ball which ours is no longer willing to do. I dont see the fit nor the appeal.

Well I don't know how you can judge his schemes when he has below average to average at best starting at WR...we don't have that here, we still have a top RB, top WRs and depending on DG

a top 10 TE... a keyword that you yourself put in his play calling is ADAPTABlLITY... that is something we lacked last year... and 23. Moore adapted and I believe we were ALL happy with that outcome.

BTW I think having Josh Allen in all the head coach interviews is another horrendous idea by Pegula. That organization is about to go back down the spiral

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

There is no magic scheme that fixes things. My hope is that Brady can convince Hurts and Sirianni that the QB needs to run mor. Someone that can adopt to the personnel and create winning matchups is what we need. If he is unable to succeed, then there is a question about whether the team has the right talent.

Aside from convincing him to run, Im not sure Brady can get Hurts to spread the ball around either. That has never happened here with Hurts.

1 minute ago, Breeze 44 said:

Well I don't know how you can judge his schemes when he has below average to average at best starting at WR...we don't have that here, we still have a top RB, top WRs and depending on DG

a top 10 TE... a keyword that you yourself put in his play calling is ADAPTABlLITY... that is something we lacked last year... and 23. Moore adapted and I believe we were ALL happy with that outcome.

Did you see the 49ers no name WRs dominating our excellent defense? Some nobody running wide open when Quinyon freaking Mitchell is supposed to be the one guarding him? 59 year old FB getting wide open? Thats how to judge a scheme with average at best WRs.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

BTW I think having Josh Allen in all the head coach interviews is another horrendous idea by Pegula. That organization is about to go back down the spiral

I’m actually curious to know when Joe Burrow and Josh Allen request trades. Because I have a feeling those days are eventually coming. More so with burrow than Allen right now.

If we can sign Joe Brady, we better trade for Lamar Jackson to make his system work. Im not even a Lamar fan, but thats just the fit you need and Hurts isnt it.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m actually curious to know when Joe Burrow and Josh Allen request trades. Because I have a feeling those days are eventually coming. More so with burrow than Allen right now.

Definitely with Burrow

37 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Fowler mentioned what I've been saying on here in that Daboll to the Titans is not a done deal and it could still happen with the Eagles.

I do think he'll end up Bills HC though.

Hiring Daboll wpuld be funny if nothing else than to make that hack Russini look like a fool.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Aside from convincing him to run, Im not sure Brady can get Hurts to spread the ball around either. That has never happened here with Hurts.

It's not been the focus of the approach on offense. Really what it tells me is that Brady is open to adjusting scheme to the talent. He didn't have a number 1 WR with the Bills. He created matchups that helped get lesser talent open. I agree not spreading it around has been an issue for Hurts. You also have a coach that starts players to get them to 1,000 yards receiving. So I do not think it is just a Hurts issue. What I think needs to be fixed is the predictability of the scheme.

I just can’t get excited about Doyle because he’s never called plays before. Also don’t think Nick would be the best teacher when he sucks at it himself

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Definitely with Burrow

I think it’s more difficult to tell Josh Allen. I know he loves Buffalo. But I also think if they get to two years down the line and they’re still in the same spot, I could see him asking out. He would be 32 going on 33 at that point. How much more time left in his prime does he have?

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

It's not been the focus of the approach on offense. Really what it tells me is that Brady is open to adjusting scheme to the talent. He didn't have a number 1 WR with the Bills. He created matchups that helped get lesser talent open. I agree not spreading it around has been an issue for Hurts. You also have a coach that starts players to get them to 1,000 yards receiving. So I do not think it is just a Hurts issue. What I think needs to be fixed is the predictability of the scheme.

Something other than hitch routes?

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

It's not been the focus of the approach on offense. Really what it tells me is that Brady is open to adjusting scheme to the talent. He didn't have a number 1 WR with the Bills. He created matchups that helped get lesser talent open. I agree not spreading it around has been an issue for Hurts. You also have a coach that starts players to get them to 1,000 yards receiving. So I do not think it is just a Hurts issue. What I think needs to be fixed is the predictability of the scheme.

I think the scheme CAN be predictable. It has been even in successful years. We have staple plays, formations, and routes that teams know are coming.

RPO, read option, inside zone, outside zone. the 2 by 2 pass sets have been super popular, and few in breaking routes which generally are not even considered as options by the QB. Running the ball successfully even when the other team knows it is coming.

We have had success with all of that stuff being entirely predictable.

The issue is being situationally predictable. Down and distance tipped run or pass. Certain formations tipped run over 80% of the time. Under center was always a run.

The tendencies have to go back to be tendencies rather than certainties.

I think we would all prefer something new. And less predictable. But then, you have the QB issue.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Did you see the 49ers no name WRs dominating our excellent defense? Some nobody running wide open when Quinyon freaking Mitchell is supposed to be the one guarding him? 59 year old FB getting wide open? Thats how to judge a scheme with average at best WRs.

The 49ers scored 23 points and wouldn't have scored 10 if the offense was at all competent.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

The 49ers scored 23 points and wouldn't have scored 10 if the offense was at all competent.

yes I know. But that was a system that was effective. It just lacked talent. 

You combine our talent with an effective system, we will average 50 points a game. 

I dont think we can seriously take the 49ers point total and use it to say Brady has a good system.

Make Doyle OC then bring in Naggy as a senior offensive advisor that he can lean on as someone with play-calling experience. Not that Naggy would call plays.

2 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Disagree, its very well known Nick is a puppet in the corner and will have no say in the offense that comes in here. I think its Jalen. With his contract your almost forced to play him and work around all those limitations. Not to mention the rumors of him indicating what he does and does not want to do. We saw it in 2024 with Kellen Moore. He tried to install some of his scheme and Jalen failed at it. By the bye week we went right back the old scheme. It was just fortunate for us the run game and defense was so dominate. We were not so lucky this year with the run game since defenses schemed against it so well and basically told Jalen to beat them which we all saw he struggled with.

If I am an OC looking to further my career, being under Nick is a great situation since you are running the show on offense. BUT if you are strapped to a chain with the QB and don't believe he can work in your passing scheme then your screwed.

Quite the contrary, if that were the case we would likely have a coordinator hired by now. Candidates get told that Nick will steer clear, but will he really?

I'm not saying Hurts doesn't deter potential hires from coming here, but let's not act like Jalen can't operate an offense.......it's just my opinion, just mine, but how the hell do we gauge Hurts issues in 2025 with a coordinator that had no reason even calling plays? And a HC that is even worse at calling plays?..........Sorry but you can't convince me that Hurts is the issue over Sirianni/Bad Play Calling OC.......if that were the case McKee would have lit up Washington and threw for 4 TD's despite the poor protection that game.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m actually curious to know when Joe Burrow and Josh Allen request trades. Because I have a feeling those days are eventually coming. More so with burrow than Allen right now.

Could see Burrow pulling a Luck. When the spark’s gone, it’s gone.

13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Did you see the 49ers no name WRs dominating our excellent defense? Some nobody running wide open when Quinyon freaking Mitchell is supposed to be the one guarding him? 59 year old FB getting wide open? Thats how to judge a scheme with average at best WRs.

Tell me which Bills WR you would take over the Niners...Coleman...Cooks....Curtis Samuel...He seemed to scheme theme open against Denver...the number 1 defense as well as finish with the top 4 offense

with those WRs...if you want to cherry pick games.

Just now, Breeze 44 said:

Tell me which Bills WR you would take over the Niners...Coleman...Cooks....Curtis Samuel...He seemed to scheme theme open against Denver...the number 1 defense as well as finish with the top 4 offense

with those WRs...if you want to cherry pick games.

Have fun cherry picking Bills games but you dont really need to cherry pick 49ers games at all to see their excellent scheme.

9 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Could see Burrow pulling a Luck. When the spark’s gone, it’s gone.

tbh he really needs to just get out of Cincinnati. That owner sucks. And he’s gonna wind up being stuck with a bad head coach too. Then again they’re gonna wind up trading him and somehow he’s gonna wind up on the Jets, which might even be worse.

That's funny

8 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

Quite the contrary, if that were the case we would likely have a coordinator hired by now. Candidates get told that Nick will steer clear, but will he really?

I'm not saying Hurts doesn't deter potential hires from coming here, but let's not act like Jalen can't operate an offense.......it's just my opinion, just mine, but how the hell do we gauge Hurts issues in 2025 with a coordinator that had no reason even calling plays? And a HC that is even worse at calling plays?..........Sorry but you can't convince me that Hurts is the issue over Sirianni/Bad Play Calling OC.......if that were the case McKee would have lit up Washington and threw for 4 TD's despite the poor protection that game.

Jalen honestly has not been that great of a passing quarterback through his whole career. He had one good/average season in 2022 and two great Super Bowl games. Overall Jalen really is not that great of a passing quarterback and has a lot of limitations since day 1. You have to remember what truly lead us to the Super Bowl last year, and it was not Jalen.

As for not hiring someone already, there's really not that many offensive coordinators that have been hired yet. We're still early in the stages and the two leading candidates also have head coaching opportunities.