January 23Jan 23 3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:Well yea but no one likes to talk about that. They wanted to blame it all on the OC and after we did that no OC's want to come here.Stop, turn off the radio. They just interviewed Slowik today. There's no truth to no OC's want to come here. There's proven truth to one OC picked another spot and maybe one more but that isn't definitely true either.
January 23Jan 23 First of all...huge disclaimer...the OC search isnt over yet. It's basically established the cream of the crop doesn't want to come here. What remains to be seen is how far down the list they tumble and just how opposed to this place people are.All year we hear that Kevin Patullo was given the keys to a Ferrari and everything would be so good if not for the OC. If we just had a competent OC, we'd be cake-walking to the SB and that OC would be yet another HC in waiting due to the otherwise manifest destiny of success of this offense that was solely torpedoed because Patullo was so bad.And now Patullo is gone, the OC position is open...and no one wants it. Ferrari door is open. Keys on the dash.What does that say?
January 23Jan 23 3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:Stop, turn off the radio. They just interviewed Slowik today. There's no truth to no OC's want to come here. There's proven truth to one OC picked another spot and maybe one more but that isn't definitely true either.Don't have it on. Writing on the wall isn't only on the radio.
January 23Jan 23 We still don't know why AJ Brown has been unhappy. There has been no concrete reporting on that. Some say he doesn't like Hurts, but no one has definitely reported that's why he's unhappy. And we've seen them get along, I don't think they hate each other even though they may not be as close anymore. Some have suggested he's just upset at his role in the offense. But there has been nothing concrete either way.But this is a pretty unprecedented situation. We've seen many great players unhappy in their situations before. But it usually falls under the following categories.-Coach and/or locker room doesn't get along with the player and they can't co-exist - no indications that's the case here. Everyone seems to like him personally.-Player wants out because he's not getting paid what he thinks he deserves and/or has some type of beef with the front office - not the case here, they've mutually agreed to two mega contracts since he's been here.-Player doesn't believe he can win in a team that always loses and wants to go somewhere he thinks he can win - not the case here obviously, all the Eagles have done is win with him here.So why is he so miserable? No one seems to know. If he just doesn't like the offense, this is the most correctable problem on the planet. If he hates Jalen Hurts, that is a tougher one to solve. But again, no indications they hate each other. Or is it something else entirely we haven't heard of? The whole situation is so bizarre.
January 23Jan 23 10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:Do we trust Howie with the cap or not?Like I said, have Smith be the WR1 and fill behind him. Draft is one avenue. There are other's like FA and trades.No one is rushing to get rid of him and no one even knows that the value back is. If you aren't getting a 4th at best, obviously you aren't trading him.Media driven clickbait is nonsense. It's beyond obvious Brown is frustrated and has been for some time.Trust him, sure. Need to make his life harder? Nope. There is no reason to waste 27 million in space next year just to do it unless there is good return.Draft is one avenue, but Howie hasn't proven he can draft one unless it's a top 10 pick. Again, using a 1st or a 2nd on a WR because they traded Brown means they can't use one of their first two picks to get an OT to replace Lane, OG to strengthen the line, TE to replace DG, or a CB2 let alone an edge if one is there. All of those are more valuable and higher needs than WR because they want to make a hole.He's frustrated, but they have bigger concerns and it's just not wise to move him unless they get real value that helps the team this year, which they probably won't.
January 23Jan 23 6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:First of all...huge disclaimer...the OC search isnt over yet. It's basically established the cream of the crop doesn't want to come here. What remains to be seen is how far down the list they tumble and just how opposed to this place people are.All year we hear that Kevin Patullo was given the keys to a Ferrari and everything would be so good if not for the OC. If we just had a competent OC, we'd be cake-walking to the SB and that OC would be yet another HC in waiting due to the otherwise manifest destiny of success of this offense that was solely torpedoed because Patullo was so bad.And now Patullo is gone, the OC position is open...and no one wants it. Ferrari door is open. Keys on the dash.What does that say?The OL decayed, Goedert is likely gone and AJ Brown might be too. Hurts isn’t for everyone. Sirianni isn’t on the most stable ground.
January 23Jan 23 6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:Easier said than done, let's just be real, this team has sucked at drafting WRs. They just don't evaluate the position well. You may not need two 30m guys to have a good passing attack, but teams are trending toward going for multiple top level guys. Dallas went after Pickens after having Lamb, Steelers have been searching for another top WR to compliment Metcalf, Bengals have two top WRs, Commies wanted one to compliment McLaurin(tried with Deebo), Vikings drafted Addison to pair with Jefferson, Jags traded for Meyers to compliment Hunter and BTJ, Bucs drafted Egbuka to compliment Evans, Rams got Adams to compliment Nacua,etc. So this is the trend now. Doesn't mean they can get them, but that's the ideal. I don't think Devonta is a true #1. I think he benefits from the coverage Brown draws. There is a reason this team's record without Brown is awful. This offense has looked terrible with him.I could see if Shanahan ran this offense with his QB of choice, he could scheme a way for the offense to function without him, but I think this offense wouldn't. Tbh, I think this team without him suffers such a massive hole, I'd move them Dallas ahead of them instantly as the favorites for this division for a variety of reasons. I think most likely scenario is they'd end up drafting someone in rounds 2-4, that player will probably be nothing special, they'd be wasting a pick on a position they could have used elsewhere, and the offense suffers dramatically.The team is 2-2 without Brown. They also looked the best on offense the game he missed this year.Deebo is not a top WR at this stage of his career. Meyers and Hunter are not top WR. Mike Evans is going to be 33 so it makes sense they drafted a guy to eventually replace him. Davante Adams is 33 and they are making a push for one last SB with Stafford whose about to be 38. Those examples don't really compare. Drafting Addison to pair with Jefferson is exactly what I said to do with Smith. Having two good/great WR's is fine. Having two that are in the top 15 of highest paid is what you shouldn't need.We also saw Seattle trade off DK Metcalf and JSN took off. All they did to replace him was sign an end of his career Kupp and trade a 4th for Shaheed midseason. They had the 8th highest passing yards per game.
January 23Jan 23 1 minute ago, ManuManu said:The OL decayed, Goedert is likely gone and AJ Brown might be too. Hurts isn’t for everyone. Sirianni isn’t on the most stable ground.Those are fair points. Other teams have negatives as well. But sure candidates with multiple options will weigh it all out including geography, money etc and they'll make a decision. If they decide not to pick Eagles it shouldn't be received as a signal that the world is coming to an end
January 23Jan 23 12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:First of all...huge disclaimer...the OC search isnt over yet. It's basically established the cream of the crop doesn't want to come here. What remains to be seen is how far down the list they tumble and just how opposed to this place people are.All year we hear that Kevin Patullo was given the keys to a Ferrari and everything would be so good if not for the OC. If we just had a competent OC, we'd be cake-walking to the SB and that OC would be yet another HC in waiting due to the otherwise manifest destiny of success of this offense that was solely torpedoed because Patullo was so bad.And now Patullo is gone, the OC position is open...and no one wants it. Ferrari door is open. Keys on the dash.What does that say?Sorry, McDaniel, Daboll, Kingsbury aren't the cream of the crop, just better known names. I love how mediocre coaches with losing records become the cream of the crop. And Patullo was bad, not just bad, but the worst play designer and play caller many fans have ever seen. Any re-write of that truth is ridiculous.
January 23Jan 23 38 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:Also with AJ Brown, I disagree trading him leaves some massive hole. Obviously it's a downgrade, but you don't and shouldn't need two $30M WR's to make a passing game work. Let the passing game run through Smith. Draft and develop and 2nd/3rd round guy. Sign a competent free agent or trade for someone before TC.If you need two top WR's and the passing game is still average at best, you have other major problems.That's currently us
January 23Jan 23 6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:The team is 2-2 without Brown. They also looked the best on offense the game he missed this year.Deebo is not a top WR at this stage of his career. Meyers and Hunter are not top WR. Mike Evans is going to be 33 so it makes sense they drafted a guy to eventually replace him. Davante Adams is 33 and they are making a push for one last SB with Stafford whose about to be 38. Those examples don't really compare. Drafting Addison to pair with Jefferson is exactly what I said to do with Smith. Having two good/great WR's is fine. Having two that are in the top 15 of highest paid is what you shouldn't need.We also saw Seattle trade off DK Metcalf and JSN took off. All they did to replace him was sign an end of his career Kupp and trade a 4th for Shaheed midseason. They had the 8th highest passing yards per game.Yeah, I agree with this. I don’t love the idea of trading AJ Brown. He’s an ultra talented player and it’s hard to find players of his quality. But if he’s leaking things and is unhappy probably best to move on and get as much of a haul as you can. But really the thing that makes me cautious and worried with WR is the fact that Howie Roseman hasn’t done a great job with wide receivers in drafting and developing. But that day is approaching either way in either 2026 or 2027 with Aj’s contract set up the way it is.I’d also add I don’t trust Aaron moorehead to do his Fing job. This is why I said he should be fired. if I want to go draft and develop wide receivers, I want somebody better than him. he has showed me nothing besides AJ Brown, who was already really good and Smith, who might’ve been the most polished wide receiver coming out of college in the last 10 years.
January 23Jan 23 7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:The team is 2-2 without Brown. They also looked the best on offense the game he missed this year.Deebo is not a top WR at this stage of his career. Meyers and Hunter are not top WR. Mike Evans is going to be 33 so it makes sense they drafted a guy to eventually replace him. Davante Adams is 33 and they are making a push for one last SB with Stafford whose about to be 38. Those examples don't really compare. Drafting Addison to pair with Jefferson is exactly what I said to do with Smith. Having two good/great WR's is fine. Having two that are in the top 15 of highest paid is what you shouldn't need.We also saw Seattle trade off DK Metcalf and JSN took off. All they did to replace him was sign an end of his career Kupp and trade a 4th for Shaheed midseason. They had the 8th highest passing yards per game.Eh, those two wins are Giants last season where they rested their starters and the Giants this season. They've struggled mightily in most games without him and lost the playoff game. So in non Giants games they're 0-3 without him.Seattle was able to get by because Kubiak is really good and Darnold I believe is more geared for a precision offense that can function with a shifty explosive guy they can use all over the field. I think the Eagles with Brown it's a lot different. I think he's one of the 3 most important players on the Eagles. And him not being here barring a replacement of another top 10 WR effectively ends their Super Bowl hopes for 2026.
January 23Jan 23 6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Trust him, sure. Need to make his life harder? Nope. There is no reason to waste 27 million in space next year just to do it unless there is good return.Draft is one avenue, but Howie hasn't proven he can draft one unless it's a top 10 pick. Again, using a 1st or a 2nd on a WR because they traded Brown means they can't use one of their first two picks to get an OT to replace Lane, OG to strengthen the line, TE to replace DG, or a CB2 let alone an edge if one is there. All of those are more valuable and higher needs than WR because they want to make a hole.He's frustrated, but they have bigger concerns and it's just not wise to move him unless they get real value that helps the team this year, which they probably won't.If it's post June 1st they save $7M cap. You also are saving $113M in cash that no one ever mentions. Eagles and Howie care more about cash than cap, and it's been that way for awhile. They can use all that cash to give extensions to Carter, Mitchell, Cooper etc. If he's so frustrated that he says he doesn't want to be here and demands a trade and there's nothing you can do to placate him, you are pretty limited in what you can do. Sometimes you have to just bite the bullet.
January 23Jan 23 I think AJ will be happier when we get a new OC. Though I could totally see a deleted tweet happening if we hire someone who isn't known for being creativeEdit: just to add I'd be upset right along with him
January 23Jan 23 1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:If it's post June 1st they save $7M cap. You also are saving $113M in cash that no one ever mentions. Eagles and Howie care more about cash than cap, and it's been that way for awhile. They can use all that cash to give extensions to Carter, Mitchell, Cooper etc.If he's so frustrated that he says he doesn't want to be here and demands a trade and there's nothing you can do to placate him, you are pretty limited in what you can do. Sometimes you have to just bite the bullet.But talk about the 27 million in dead space next year. We aren't at that point with him doing sit-ups yet. They need to improve the team for next year not add another hole they have to fill on top of OT, OG, CB2, TE, S, and DL.
January 23Jan 23 4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Yeah, I agree with this. I don’t love the idea of trading AJ Brown. He’s an ultra talented player and it’s hard to find players of his quality. But if he’s leaking things and is unhappy probably best to move on and get as much of a haul as you can. But really the thing that makes me cautious and worried with WR is the fact that Howie Roseman hasn’t done a great job with wide receivers in drafting and developing. But that day is approaching either way in either 2026 or 2027 with Aj’s contract set up the way it is.I’d also add I don’t trust Aaron moorehead to do his Fing job. This is why I said he should be fired. if I want to go and draft and develop wide receivers, I want somebody better than him. he has showed me nothing besides AJ Brown, who was already really good and Smith, who might’ve been the most polished wide receiver coming out of college in the last 10 years.I really just wanted to push my fire Aaron Moorehead agenda in my original post
January 23Jan 23 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:But talk about the 27 million in dead space next year. We aren't at that point with him doing sit-ups yet.They have high dead cap every year. They lead the league by far because they plan around it. And that $27 will be there when they move on from him next year anyway.
January 23Jan 23 1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:If it's post June 1st they save $7M cap. You also are saving $113M in cash that no one ever mentions. Eagles and Howie care more about cash than cap, and it's been that way for awhile. They can use all that cash to give extensions to Carter, Mitchell, Cooper etc.If he's so frustrated that he says he doesn't want to be here and demands a trade and there's nothing you can do to placate him, you are pretty limited in what you can do. Sometimes you have to just bite the bullet.This. This is why I said the Eagles might have to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The bigger picture might be we may have to take a step back in 2026, so that going on into the future we are set up better. They had to do that in 2021. That day of reckoning is coming at some point in time. It’s not that I want to trade AJ Brown. I love AJ Brown. Frankly, I think he’s one of the best 10 wide receivers in the league. However, if he’s gonna be this unhappy and create issues that you should probably just bite the bullet like you said and get the compensation you can. Try to also get some helpful players at other positions involved in that trade. set yourself up better for the future while unfortunately taking a step back in 2026. It is hard for us to swallow because of where they are with all these guys. But ultimately it might benefit you for the long run while it hurts you in the short run.
January 23Jan 23 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:I think AJ will be happier when we get a new OC. Though I could totally see a deleted tweet happening if we hire someone who isn't known for being creativeI mean we have a new OC every year and he still has been unhappy every year
January 23Jan 23 Just now, LeanMeanGM said:They have high dead cap every year. They lead the league by far because they plan around it. And that $27 will be there when they move on from him next year anyway.So when they need to sign all the D players add 27 million in dead space onto that just to make the team worse and add another need they have to fill when they already have OT, OG, TE, CB2, and safety along with edge if JP leaves.
January 23Jan 23 3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:I really just wanted to push my fire Aaron Moorehead agenda in my original postIt’s amazing we went from firing or changing our wide receiver coach every year. To staying with a guy that showed next to nothing in terms of developing guys. When you watch them, there’s guys running poor routes. There’s guys not blocking the way they’re supposed to or getting pre-snap penalties. There’s guys that don’t know how to do the scramble drill. And then there’s guys just not improving year after year besides Smith and AJ Brown.
January 23Jan 23 15 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:Those are fair points. Other teams have negatives as well. But sure candidates with multiple options will weigh it all out including geography, money etc and they'll make a decision. If they decide not to pick Eagles it shouldn't be received as a signal that the world is coming to an endMaybe the world isn’t ending but it doesn’t look nearly as it good a year ago.
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