I feel sad for our future. I trust in Howie, but damn , I need 1 more Lombardi Trophy. Please.

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I didn't think he was going to come back anyway

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They are eventually gonna have the aj hole added to the list. It’s either now or 2027. AJ Brown is very unlikely here for the long-term. He’s very likely gone in 2027.

So the decision is bring him back in 2026 and wait to replace him or just get out of here early and getting compensated for it. There is a reality that exists that if AJ Brown doesn’t stay healthy or he under performs in 2026 or is so unhappy that it creates an untenable situation that you get no or little compensation for him in 2027. The Eagles might consider he’s unhappy here, we can’t make him happy, his unhappiness is affecting him on the field and in the locker room. which leads them to feeling they are better off getting asset picks compensation now than waiting a year and potentially getting less or even nothing.

Again, your first three paragraphs, I can say for almost every organization that they failed if they don’t do that. I love howie’s progress that he made since 2021. He’s been on a crazy heated draft wise. However, some of the success he had was because he got trading away players, letting players walk and collecting assets to help him build and sustain this. Wentz trade for instance very much helped this. Along with a down 2020 year that provided him a trade back that helped stockpile assets as well. He also took 2021 as a we’re gonna collect assets, run with the team we have and see where the chips fall. which then goes back to AJ Brown. He might consider (he also might say i don’t want too) I take the hit if it means I get those type of assets again that can help me shape the next 3-4 years rather than just 2026

I don't see why you have to trade him this year to accomplish getting a 2nd next year (maybe) while diminishing their chances next year. That doesn't move the needle much for me or for the future. Saying Howie may not nail picks while saying Howie should get another pick doesn't line up but we'll see what happens. Screw a second in 2027 win the SB, especially when you have a QB who needs people to beat people outside.

33 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I thought it was very telling by Howie in the presser said there’s going to be sacrifices going forward (and tough decisions). To me there is likely going to come a day where the Eagles make the decision that leads to a year where it’s a step back which ultimately helps them to take 2-3 steps forward in the future.

Do I personally think that’s in 2026? No. But Howie and lurie are always thinking about the future not just the now and upcoming season. So I am guessing it’s been discussed.

Just my opinion on sacrifice...

Essential: extend Mitchell, Dejean, Carter, Davis

Really want: extend Nolan Smith, Jalyx Hunt

Would like: Blankenship

Willing to sacrifice: Phillips, Dean

Would be annoyed if they DON'T sacrifice: Goedert

People who want to trade Brown aren't thinking about the fact they have 2 maybe 3 seasons left of Hurts who is 28 in August. Wasting one without him having two good WRs is nuts to me.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I don't see why you have to trade him this year to accomplish getting a 2nd next year (maybe) while diminishing their chances next year. That doesn't move the needle much for me or for the future. Saying Howie may not nail picks while saying Howie should get another pick doesn't line up but we'll see what happens. Screw a second in 2027 win the SB, especially when you have a QB who needs people to beat people outside.

I was going on the low end of the totem pole. DK Metcalf got a second round pick. I think AJ Brown is much better than DK Metcalf. So I think you could probably get more than that.

If the rumors are true, that buffalo was in on waddle for a first in 2027, I think you could likely get a first for AJ Brown.

I can see the Eagles when they talk about having to make tough decisions and make sacrifices. Some of those things are you gotta make tough decisions sacrifices, to make yourself better and have a bigger window than just 2026. Why Reed and Phillips may also not be back.

Let me say this I hate the idea of trading AJ Brown, the talent. Because it’s very hard to find AJ Brown type of wide receivers in this league. However, I could understand it from their perspective if he is being a pain in the ass in the background, leaking stuff to the media and being more demonstrative behind the scenes about wanting to be dealt. They might just get to the point where they say it’s untenable and get the assets for him. Do I think that helps him in 2026? No because I don’t think they were a better team without him talent wise. However, I do think it helps the eagles in 2027 and beyond because I don’t think he’s here in 2027 regardless

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

People who want to trade Brown aren't thinking about the fact they have 2 maybe 3 seasons left of Hurts who is 28 in August. Wasting one without him having two good WRs is nuts to me.

I think you’re viewing it as we want to trade him because we just want too. That’s different than the people who say they’re going to trade him because it’s becoming an untenable situation with him leaking things and his unhappiness is effecting his play on the field and potentially the team.

Honest question when was the last time the Eagles had a player here and kept him here who was not happy and wanted it out? Reddick for like a year and then they traded him. And he didn’t play particularly great the year that they kept him here. The other is TO who blew up in their face. 

On the hurts situation, if you truly believe (i am not saying need to or don’t) you’re going to need a succession plan to Jalen hurts sooner rather than later, then likely want assets like they had in 2021 and 2022. Could make the argument, it gives you the opportunity to see how hurts looks and if can elevate the offense to where it needs to be without having two top WRs, a top RB and a good TE. if hurts can elevate the offense to where it needs to go without AJ Brown, then you have more assets to go put things around him to make them even better going forward. And if he can’t, you have assets to go get that quarterback that you want. (This is just a playing Devil’s advocate here)

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

People who want to trade Brown aren't thinking about the fact they have 2 maybe 3 seasons left of Hurts who is 28 in August. Wasting one without him having two good WRs is nuts to me.

I am ready to cut bait after this last year's shidd show that he displayed. When they were winning he complained and then they force fed him to make him happy they started losing. I just think he's is not aging well and this is who he is at this point and maybe gets even worse. Remember Alshon? Was a precipitous drop there, pretty quickly. I truly think he's replaceable with a solid #2 and having Devanta as your 1. That is the best path forward short term and long term. Hurts can spread the ball around and not worry about Brown's targets. Also, If he can no longer win consistently on the go route whats the point? Guy creates very little separation and doesnt have the jumping ability or the willingness to stretch out for passes these days. Seemed to make too many "business decisions" this year out there on the field. On top of it

, the guy is an unwilling blocker as well. Someone that big should be a positive on that front. Just don't like his all around game right now. He's morphed into maybe a good slot receiver going forward. Not paying big money for that. And the massive ego attached. He's tiring!

27 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

I feel sad for our future. I trust in Howie, but damn , I need 1 more Lombardi Trophy. Please.

🦅🦅🦅

As long as Fangio stays and the young D talent is kept we have a window. The O definitely feels iffy. If they get this right then you're good next year but if wrong then you turn over coach and hope Fangio stays and a lot in the air. Sadly, we've been on a great run and you know that never lasts forever in nfl

53 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

You win the day! A simple man with a decent imagination can do a lot with that. Probably for a long time, in a lengthy winter weather event. 🤣

4 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I am ready to cut bait after this last year's shidd show that he displayed. When they were winning he complained and then they force fed him to make him happy they started losing. I just think he's is not aging well and this is who he is at this point and maybe gets even worse. Remember Alshon. Was a precipitous drop there, pretty quickly. I truly think he's replaceable with a solid #2 and having Devanta as your 1. That is the best path forward short term and long term. Hurts can spread the ball around and not worry about Brown's targets. Also, If he can no longer win consistently on the go route whats the point? Guy creates very little separation and doesnt have the jumping ability or the willingness to stretch out for passes these days. Seemed to make too many "business decisions" this year out there on the field. On top of it the guy is an unwilling blocker as well. Someone that big should be a positive on that front. Just don't like his all around game right now. He's morphed into maybe a good slot receiver going forward. Not paying big money for that. And the massive ego attached. He's tiring!

Got a nice laugh from that part

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I am ready to cut bait after this last year's shidd show that he displayed. When they were winning he complained and then they force fed him to make him happy they started losing. I just think he's is not aging well and this is who he is at this point and maybe gets even worse. Remember Alshon? Was a precipitous drop there, pretty quickly. I truly think he's replaceable with a solid #2 and having Devanta as your 1. That is the best path forward short term and long term. Hurts can spread the ball around and not worry about Brown's targets. Also, If he can no longer win consistently on the go route whats the point? Guy creates very little separation and doesnt have the jumping ability or the willingness to stretch out for passes these days. Seemed to make too many "business decisions" this year out there on the field. On top of it the guy is an unwilling blocker as well. Someone that big should be a positive on that front. Just don't like his all around game right now. He's morphed into maybe a good slot receiver going forward. Not paying big money for that. And the massive ego attached. He's tiring!

Hurts is a QB who needs all the pieces to win. It's just not smart to me. Especially, when he only has 2 or 3 seasons left. Meanwhile, people are like if they get Nagy it's a wasted year.

38 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Is this AJ Brown? 🤣 This is not Prime AJ Brown from 2022 & 2023 seasons any longer.

I'll give you 9 names of more important Eagles going into next year than this 2026 version of AJ Brown.

1. Hurts

2. Lane

3. Mailata

4. Devanta

5. Coop

6. Q

7. Baun

8. Carter

9. JD

I just think AJ is severely overrated at this point. And is a big name more than anything. He's a shell of his former self at this point.

Baun doesn't belong on that list imo.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Hurts is a QB who needs all the pieces to win. It's just not smart to me. Especially, when he only has 2 or 3 seasons left. Meanwhile, people are like if they get Nagy it's a wasted year.

We didn't win with him. The dude is near toxic at this point. And simply doesn't want to be here. I don't want players who don't want to be here.

Just now, Joe Ball said:

Baun doesn't belong on that list imo.

With no Dean next year. Baun is extremely important. I am just saying AJ is not worth the squeeze at age 29. There's other guys I thought about putting on the list. Hunt, JP, & Dickerson. AJ was a great receiver til about the 2024 seaon. Got injured with the hammy and really just doesn't look the same to me.

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I don't see why you have to trade him this year to accomplish getting a 2nd next year (maybe) while diminishing their chances next year. That doesn't move the needle much for me or for the future. Saying Howie may not nail picks while saying Howie should get another pick doesn't line up but we'll see what happens. Screw a second in 2027 win the SB, especially when you have a QB who needs people to beat people outside.

Best outcome here is new OC, AJ has great start to the season and you deal him at the deadline to possibly maximize return. But why? At that point things are going extremely well for everyone involved and would likely mean PHI is winning, a lot.

Just now, jojodancer said:

We didn't win with him. The dude is near toxic at this point. And simply doesn't want to be here. I don't like players who don't be here. It's not

With no Dean next year. Baun is extremely important. I am just saying AJ is not worth the squeeze at age 29. There's other guys I thought about putting on the list. Hunt, JP, & Dickerson. AJ was a great receiver til about last year. Got injured and really just doesn't look the same to me.

That's on the OC, HC, and OL. Again, Hurts needs the pieces to win so taking one isn't smart to me.

8 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

You win the day! A simple man with a decent imagination can do a lot with that. Probably for a long time, in a lengthy winter weather event. 🤣

Looks like cold air and snow isn't the only thing that Canada is dumping on us, and I'm all for it!!

26 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

People who want to trade Brown aren't thinking about the fact they have 2 maybe 3 seasons left of Hurts who is 28 in August. Wasting one without him having two good WRs is nuts to me.

The Diva wants out and he was half assing it too much this past season.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

As long as Fangio stays and the young D talent is kept we have a window. The O definitely feels iffy. If they get this right then you're good next year but if wrong then you turn over coach and hope Fangio stays and a lot in the air. Sadly, we've been on a great run and you know that never lasts forever in nfl

I actually trust as long as they have Jeff Stoutland there that their offensive line can be rebuilt/or get back to where it was. It might not be ever as great as 2024. But I do think they could be a top five or top 10 offensive line.

The things that worry me on offense is if they can develop wide receivers which we need too long term. Because I don’t know if you’re gonna have the assets or money to just go find and pay another AJ Brown with money being allocated too going forward. You’re gonna have to draft and develop those guys. That has been a scary thought because Smith is about the only one they’ve done that too.

Eventually, Saquon is going to reach a stage where he declines and you’re gonna have to go get a running back. Now I think you can find running backs, especially if your offensive line is good.

tight end which they’ve really only spent a high round pick on goedert since howie came back. Rest were late round guys and basically backups.

The quarterback is fascinating to me. Because you’re gonna get a new offensive coordinator in here in 2026. If the pass offense still looks bad next year and the Eagles losing the wildcard or don’t even make the playoffs, then I think you’re firing the offensive staff and head coach. Imo new coach is gonna come in here. Hurts likely here in 2027 to see how he looks. But I’m guessing there’s a plan in motion at that point cause it seems like the eagles are always a couple steps ahead rather than maneuvering from behind. If the offense looks significantly better particularly pass game then you move forward into 2027 with hurts and sirianni.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

The Diva wants out and he was half assing it too much this past season.

Well your guy is only here two or three more seasons and needs everything in place to win. Blow a year then.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

That's on the OC, HC, and OL. Again, Hurts needs the pieces to win so taking one isn't smart to me.

It depends on what you get for him. Can draft his replacement or get a player with less of a name. I am open to that. He's not on the team in 2027 and is a lame duck in 2026 and everybody knows it. How do you think he's gonna act next year with no guaranteed money coming or a new extension? He's gonna be hard to deal with.

Yes Howie essentially said they’ll need young O talent as they pay the D. It’s a transition and obviously they need to draft well to do it

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

People who want to trade Brown aren't thinking about the fact they have 2 maybe 3 seasons left of Hurts who is 28 in August. Wasting one without him having two good WRs is nuts to me.

Thats quite the conundrum because Hurts being here is the biggest barrier to AJ being happy here and wanting to be here.

Its not a realistic scenario to keep those two together, and having Smith still on the team, it shouldn't be seen as a wasted season just because Brown is not. They can still build a good WR corps with a legitimate WR1. That's not a waste to me.