5 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Christian Parker couldn't even develop an immensely talented Kelee Ringo out of Georgia. You definitely don't want that guy running your defense @Joe Ball

I know nothing about the guy. Coaches do evolve and get better, maybe he can wherever he goes, based on what you have said hopefully not DAL 😀, although he is considered to be an up and coming Pass Game Coordinator according to BTB (see below). Whoever DAL gets I hope has experienced some level of success, I'm hoping for Leonhard...anything is an upgrade, well not anything but it almost feels like it. It seems like DAL typically slow rolls things like this but they are wanting to move quickly this year. With all the turnover from 9 different teams this year there are a lot more candidates out there. I hope they don't rush things. I am a bit surprised they didn't at least request an interview with Flores, he likely wouldn't make the move anyway, he might not even give an interview, I just never heard where an interview was offered.

This is the latest I have read on the DC search, from BTB (bloggingtheboys), a site I read, but don't participate in the community forum.

Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator interviews, news and rumors

• The Cowboys have requested permission to interview Minnesota defensive pass game coordinator Daronte Jones, Denver assistant HC/pass game coordinator Jim Leonhard and Browns safeties coach Ephraim Banda according to Todd Archer.

• Dallas was denied permission to speak to Jeff Ulbrich for the DC position by Atlanta as he remains under contract to the team for now. (Todd Archer).

• The first round of interviews will begin on Friday as Dallas is set to speak with Daronte Jones and Ephraim Band. They reportedly will speak with Jim Leonhard on Saturday.

• The Cowboys are set to interview defensive line coach Aaron Whitecotton.

• Dallas will reportedly interview former Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon as well as former Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Orr.

• Nick Harris listed Chuck Pagano (former Colts head coach) and Jonathan Cooley (Panthers passing game coordinator) as names to watch.

• Dallas is reportedly requesting permission to interview Eagles defensive backs coach and passing-game coordinator Christian Parker.

• The Cowboys have reportedly requested an interview with Charlie Bullen, the Giants outside linebackers coach who served as their interim defensive coordinator down the stretch after they fired Shane Bowen.

Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator candidates

• Jonathan Gannon (fired by the Cardinals), Jeff Ulbrich (former Falcons coordinator and Raheem Morris was fired there), and Mike Rutenberg (was also a part of Atlanta’s staff) were listed as names to watch by 105.3 The Fan’s Bobby Belt.

• Brian Flores (finished the season as the Vikings defensive coordinator but was in the final year of his contract) was noted as someone to watch by The Athletic’s Dianna Russini.

12 minutes ago, Miami said:

And maybe that's okay. OC is locked in now and worst case we switch to ™ or someone else. Roster is pretty jacked so won't take long to ramp up. Don't think Lowie is going to put up with another year of offensive quicksand (and a playoff loss). And if Hurts does find his mojo, so much the better. He's on the clock now.

This team is in win now mode. The number 1 priority for finding an OC is who can get the best out of Hurts for the next 1-2 seasons

18 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I really don’t see Hurts running the offense that he’ll want to run

Hurts throwing to a spot where he doesn't have to really read the defense is probably not a problem for him.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am firmly against Daboll unless he changes his name to Dabolli.

It's Philly. It's Dabolls

4 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I know nothing about the guy. Coaches do evolve and get better, maybe he can wherever he goes, based on what you have said hopefully not DAL 😀, although he is considered to be an up and coming Pass Game Coordinator according to BTB (see below). Whoever DAL gets I hope has experienced some level of success, I'm hoping for Leonhard...anything is an upgrade, well not anything but it almost feels like it. It seems like DAL typically slow rolls things like this but they are wanting to move quickly this year. With all the turnover from 9 different teams this year there are a lot more candidates out there. I hope they don't rush things. I am a bit surprised they didn't at least request an interview with Flores, he likely wouldn't make the move anyway, he might not even give an interview, I just never heard where an interview was offered.

This is the latest I have read on the DC search, from BTB (bloggingtheboys), a site I read, but don't participate in the community forum.

Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator interviews, news and rumors

• The Cowboys have requested permission to interview Minnesota defensive pass game coordinator Daronte Jones, Denver assistant HC/pass game coordinator Jim Leonhard and Browns safeties coach Ephraim Banda according to Todd Archer.

• Dallas was denied permission to speak to Jeff Ulbrich for the DC position by Atlanta as he remains under contract to the team for now. (Todd Archer).

• The first round of interviews will begin on Friday as Dallas is set to speak with Daronte Jones and Ephraim Band. They reportedly will speak with Jim Leonhard on Saturday.

• The Cowboys are set to interview defensive line coach Aaron Whitecotton.

• Dallas will reportedly interview former Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon as well as former Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Orr.

• Nick Harris listed Chuck Pagano (former Colts head coach) and Jonathan Cooley (Panthers passing game coordinator) as names to watch.

• Dallas is reportedly requesting permission to interview Eagles defensive backs coach and passing-game coordinator Christian Parker.

• The Cowboys have reportedly requested an interview with Charlie Bullen, the Giants outside linebackers coach who served as their interim defensive coordinator down the stretch after they fired Shane Bowen.

Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator candidates

• Jonathan Gannon (fired by the Cardinals), Jeff Ulbrich (former Falcons coordinator and Raheem Morris was fired there), and Mike Rutenberg (was also a part of Atlanta’s staff) were listed as names to watch by 105.3 The Fan’s Bobby Belt.

• Brian Flores (finished the season as the Vikings defensive coordinator but was in the final year of his contract) was noted as someone to watch by The Athletic’s Dianna Russini.

My post caught a couple of fishes.

31 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Nice play call but his pants are stupid.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

My post caught a couple of fishes.

I really don't spend a lot of time following what DAL "might" do because usually it's Jerry talking out his a**. I get more interested when the draft rolls around, then camp, then 4 weeks into the season I'm out, at least from an emotional investment anyway, because they have likely F'd the season off by then.

Can't catch'em if you aren't throwing the line out there! 😂

24 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Hurts throwing to a spot where he doesn't have to really read the defense is probably not a problem for him.

Eh.. idk about that. Sounds like too many pre snap reads

44 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I love how McDaniel is always obviously high AF 😆

Part of his appeal

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I really don’t see Hurts running the offense that he’ll want to run

Then he can go screw, he isn't good enough to dictate what offense he wants to run

I know that everyone likes to look down their nose at WIP, but I think they've had some pretty good discussion in recent days and weeks. I specifically find interesting the debate on marrying the OC with Hurts...or not doing that.

That blends the lines of the more tired debate of Hurts hater vs. Patullo hater etc.

As a big Hurts critic, I tend to think they need to find an OC that is a fit, not just the "best offensive mind" to figure it out their way. This team is ready to compete now and Hurts is their QB. I wish he wasn't. But that's who they have. You get someone with a strong belief in the blueprint of an offense with more moving pieces, motion, timing emphasis...then you are either asking them to adapt with something they'd rather not do (and perhaps turn that great offensive mind into another Nick Siriani)...all for Hurts... or you are forcing Hurts do something he's neither comfortable nor competent with. Square peg, round hole.

I think you have to get someone who wants an improvisational offense, RPO incorporated, mobile QB with multiple runs, and....yeah....not the most exotic route tree in the NFL. Where I think Patullo really failed was pushing Hurts with forcing more diverse primary reads with the actual play calls.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Take a look at what Waddle and Hill did. Now envision McDaniel as our OC and Henry Ruggs in our offense with DeVonta Smith.

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Take a look at what Waddle and Hill did. Now envision McDaniel as our OC and Henry Ruggs in our offense with DeVonta Smith.

I mean he's up for parole but I don't think he will get reinstated without a suspension.

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean he's up for parole but I don't think he will get reinstated without a suspension.

Seemed like people were thinking maybe next season. I have no idea what his situation is but I remember seeing tweets about him. Just saying. McDaniel with some more speed in the offense. Like woah.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

How does Alshon know what's going on in these meetings?

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Notice the movement of Waddle on the route and his adjustment to the ball.

AJ ran straight lines and just looked sad if the ball was not perfectly placed in his hands.

The new OC has to be able to fix him.

16 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Kellen Moore absolutely did not have complete autonomy

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I know that everyone likes to look down their nose at WIP, but I think they've had some pretty good discussion in recent days and weeks. I specifically find interesting the debate on marrying the OC with Hurts...or not doing that.

That blends the lines of the more tired debate of Hurts hater vs. Patullo hater etc.

As a big Hurts critic, I tend to think they need to find an OC that is a fit, not just the "best offensive mind" to figure it out their way. This team is ready to compete now and Hurts is their QB. I wish he wasn't. But that's who they have. You get someone with a strong belief in the blueprint of an offense with more moving pieces, motion, timing emphasis...then you are either asking them to adapt with something they'd rather not do (and perhaps turn that great offensive mind into another Nick Siriani)...all for Hurts... or you are forcing Hurts do something he's neither comfortable nor competent with. Square peg, round hole.

I think you have to get someone who wants an improvisational offense, RPO incorporated, mobile QB with multiple runs, and....yeah....not the most exotic route tree in the NFL. Where I think Patullo really failed was pushing Hurts with forcing more diverse primary reads with the actual play calls.

I think this is a good take. But part of me just thinks the coaching has failed hurts. Whether or not he’s comfortable doing certain things, he’s flashed and shown he is capable of more.

My take is that he’s just not being developed. For me it’s more blame on the simpleton running the show. Siri can’t develop players either. Our team wins on talent not on coaching. If we can land an OC that can develop hurts, I think he evolves into a decent passer. He won’t ever be an elite passer but he can be above average.

I’ve never been a fan of hurts but after this season, I felt like the coaching let him down more than anything. How many times did we see him drop back with no where to throw? Where hurts failed was not using his legs more. We don’t need more designed qb runs, we just need his scrambles

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Kellen Moore absolutely did not have complete autonomy

Yep. Devonta said they have been running the same offense for years.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I know that everyone likes to look down their nose at WIP, but I think they've had some pretty good discussion in recent days and weeks. I specifically find interesting the debate on marrying the OC with Hurts...or not doing that.

That blends the lines of the more tired debate of Hurts hater vs. Patullo hater etc.

As a big Hurts critic, I tend to think they need to find an OC that is a fit, not just the "best offensive mind" to figure it out their way. This team is ready to compete now and Hurts is their QB. I wish he wasn't. But that's who they have. You get someone with a strong belief in the blueprint of an offense with more moving pieces, motion, timing emphasis...then you are either asking them to adapt with something they'd rather not do (and perhaps turn that great offensive mind into another Nick Siriani)...all for Hurts... or you are forcing Hurts do something he's neither comfortable nor competent with. Square peg, round hole.

I think you have to get someone who wants an improvisational offense, RPO incorporated, mobile QB with multiple runs, and....yeah....not the most exotic route tree in the NFL. Where I think Patullo really failed was pushing Hurts with forcing more diverse primary reads with the actual play calls.

I think you interview people and take the best offensive mind with the best plan for the current personnel. And someone you trust to be adaptable and call plays well. I think there's give and take both ways. I agree you don't want Sean Payton who says he'll redo the offense over 2 years to his way. That doesn't make sense for a non HC hire.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I think you interview people and take the best offensive mind with the best plan for the current personnel. And someone you trust to be adaptable and call plays well. I think there's give and take both ways. I agree you don't want Sean Payton who says he'll redo the offense over 2 years to his way. That doesn't make sense for a non HC hire.

It's an awkward situation and a compromise, almost by definition. Like you said, it has to be the best offensive mind with the best plan for current personnel.

When you hire a new HC on a bottom 1/3 team, you want them to build from the ground up and give them time. This is an OC, not a HC. If they can't come up with a good plan for the current personnel, the HC is getting fired and it's pretty unlikely the OC is the one to get promoted. And THEN we start from scratch and ignore fit.

So this really is a situation where they need the best plan to make due with what we have. If they can't do that, then they really won't be here anyway to implement their long-term blueprint.

35 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

As much I would like to see the Eagles get locked down with an OC as soon as they can ...before the top candidates start getting snagged...there is a lot to gain to interviewing as many as they can afford to get different perspectives about next steps for the Eagles offense. I really hope Sirianni is not part of any of that conversation. And...I wasn't kidding the other day about letting the Eagles OC and DC be paid more than Sirianni...get the right guy and throw the cash at him...give him all the autonomy he desires. The Eagles can't afford to be looking for scraps from the bottom feeders.

24 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Yep. Devonta said they have been running the same offense for years.

That + it didn’t look like a Kellen Moore offense + Sirianni saying it was still his offense multiple times + players literally saying they went to Sirianni’s office to say to run the ball more followed by being the heaviest running team.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I know that everyone likes to look down their nose at WIP, but I think they've had some pretty good discussion in recent days and weeks. I specifically find interesting the debate on marrying the OC with Hurts...or not doing that.

That blends the lines of the more tired debate of Hurts hater vs. Patullo hater etc.

As a big Hurts critic, I tend to think they need to find an OC that is a fit, not just the "best offensive mind" to figure it out their way. This team is ready to compete now and Hurts is their QB. I wish he wasn't. But that's who they have. You get someone with a strong belief in the blueprint of an offense with more moving pieces, motion, timing emphasis...then you are either asking them to adapt with something they'd rather not do (and perhaps turn that great offensive mind into another Nick Siriani)...all for Hurts... or you are forcing Hurts do something he's neither comfortable nor competent with. Square peg, round hole.

I think you have to get someone who wants an improvisational offense, RPO incorporated, mobile QB with multiple runs, and....yeah....not the most exotic route tree in the NFL. Where I think Patullo really failed was pushing Hurts with forcing more diverse primary reads with the actual play calls.

I would hire the best offensive mind. Find out if he's able to make an offense work with Hurts when he won't run. If he doesn't, you move Hurts after 2026 and see if you can make it work with a drafted QB or McKee.

I think any of the available coaches would be able to work with Hurts. I saw someone say they don't think Hurts would work in a Shanahan offense, o think he would thrive in a Shanahan offense. The entire premise is easy short to intermediate throws that put the onus on the receivers to make plays. Maybe the poster meant because there are a lot of middle of the field routes, but if an OC comes here with an offense Hurts doesnt want to run then Hurts can sit on the bench