8 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Biracial. San Fran got draft comp when Miami hired him.

Just be prepared for the league to add a rule that a rooney rule coach can only bring picks for a promotion once. So that it will disqualify the eagles from getting anything. You know its coming just to screw us if we hire him.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Just be prepared for the league to add a rule that a rooney rule coach can only bring picks for a promotion once. So that it will disqualify the eagles from getting anything. You know its coming just to screw us if we hire him.

Maybe, depends on the merit of the rule I guess. It’s truly designed to get more minorities hired at coordinator and HC positions so if teams are incentivized with draft comp to do that, more opportunities will arise for those individuals in coordinator roles.

Not to get into what McDaniel identifies as and he technically qualifies, but I think everyone knows he’s a loophole to the rule.

Out of curiosity, is Hurts untradeable after the 2026 season?

Purely from a contractual/cap standpoint, we know it’s not possible this offseason. We know it’s more favorable after 2027. How does that option look after 2026?

The interesting collision course will be if they have a lukewarm commitment to Hurts after 2026 in not trading him but not extending him and making him play out the 2027 year. I can’t imagine he’d be thrilled without an extension after this season. The Eagles probably won’t want to wrap up much more in him, but that also may be an opportunity for Howie to kick the can down the road and free up 2027-8 cap space for Carter/Davis/Dejean/Mitchell by extending and deferring Hurts hits.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

There is no question this offense has been developed for Hurts.

Just saying I dont know how we can say an air raid coach (Kingsbury) is the best option when Hurts already sucked at Moore's air raid concepts.

Well, if Jalen could start getting the ball out in 2s like Tua or throwing with anticipation like Purdy, managing motion, playing under center with the correct footwork and timing. Yeah, he’d be a better QB in a much more dangerous offense.

8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I've said before that I prefer the term "system QB" over "game manager" when it comes to describing Hurts. So I think it's unfair to say he has no limitations at all, like Orlovsky is implying in that tweet above, but those limitations are certainly being overstated by some people. And that's the case for any other system QB, like Goff, Herbert, Mayfield, Purdy, etc. They all have limitations to some degree.

And as it's been the case for decades, if those types of guys are not in a system that capitalizes on their strengths and masks their weaknesses, they are going to struggle. They will not be able to will their offenses to success on a consistent basis if the scheme isn't a great fit. Watch the tape on Goff under McVay and compare to his first year in Detroit, to the years under Johnson, to this past year and it'll jump off the screen. Like it's so obvious that it's kinda crazy how much fans were doubting the impact a competent OC can have on a QB's level of play. How many times did we hear over the past few months, "well Patullo made it this far, so obviously an NFL OC can't be completely incompetent." Well, I hope they realize now that yes, sometimes coordinators really are that bad at their jobs.

Anyways, there are few QBs who can truly excel and elevate an offense regardless of schedule quality, which is why they're called elite. Guys like Allen, Burrow, Jackson, Stafford, Mahomes. You can drop those guys into almost any system (excluding Patullo's FFS!) and they'll have success on a consistent basis. But they're obviously few and far between, and Hurts isn't in that tier of QB, which is fine. That doesn't mean we can't win with him or that he's trash or that Tanner McKee (LOL) would be better than him. It's just that we need someone competent designing, installing, and calling the plays, so hopefully we'll get that this time around like we had in '22 and '24.

Excellent, this is very well said. Realistic, balanced view on Hurts.

Next season will be really interesting with the new coach.

18 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Saleh is Lebanese if that’s who you’re referring to. And they got picks for him too.

Yup, that guy. And Lebanese are white, and some are Muslims which anybody can be if they want.

So question regarding the last play of this past week's game on 4th down.

They called a timeout and Patullo, Hurts and Sirianni were all talking near the sideline about the play call. When they get to the line and are lined up, if Jalen didn't like the call why didn't he change it? Its been made a big deal and analyzed that the play was all WR verticals and Hurts threw to the middle in triple coverage. Why didn't he change the play call or AJ or Devonta's route or something? There must have been enough time as they were coming from a timeout. Is Jalen not allowed to change the play or routes? I doubt it. He's done it before.

7 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

So question regarding the last play of this past week's game on 4th down.

They called a timeout and Patullo, Hurts and Sirianni were all talking near the sideline about the play call. When they get to the line and are lined up, if Jalen didn't like the call why didn't he change it? Its been made a big deal and analyzed that the play was all WR verticals and Hurts threw to the middle in triple coverage. Why didn't he change the play call or AJ or Devonta's route or something? There must have been enough time as they were coming from a timeout. Is Jalen not allowed to change the play or routes? I doubt it. He's done it before.

Game & season on the line. His 2 coaches just agreed with the play call in a sideline timeoutmeeting. He'd be going against both of them.

Better question: why didn't Nick the Head Coach change the play call or insist KP call something else?

56 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

lol. This was the top comment under us hiring Moore.

We have been a hitch heavy team for most of the Siri / Hurts tenure. It got elevated to an evern higher level this past season but we ran a lot of them last year as well.

And KM loved running the all hitches in Dallas as well. I had made this point earlier but our concepts have been simple for years now. We still ran an effective offense because we had a dominant run game to lean on and guys like KM were much more more effective playcallers re. layering plays on top of each other and not telegraphing the plays pre-snap.

9 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

So question regarding the last play of this past week's game on 4th down.

They called a timeout and Patullo, Hurts and Sirianni were all talking near the sideline about the play call. When they get to the line and are lined up, if Jalen didn't like the call why didn't he change it? Its been made a big deal and analyzed that the play was all WR verticals and Hurts threw to the middle in triple coverage. Why didn't he change the play call or AJ or Devonta's route or something? There must have been enough time as they were coming from a timeout. Is Jalen not allowed to change the play or routes? I doubt it. He's done it before.

It was a pretty bad situation, C4 is tough to beat on a reduced field and where throws underneath can be ignored. I figure they thought they might get a 1v1 somewhere by going 4 verticals. Why Jalen went to Goedert… well, I think at that point he was only one who hadn’t dropped the ball.

Jobs have to be sold to hot candidates but I tend to think the Eagles job with the personnel and the pressure and exposure that comes with it is either something someone wants or they don’t.

I think this will be one of the faster searches we’ve seen and I think it’ll all be over in less than 2 weeks. The HC dominoes will fall fast soon

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Sold

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Nepobaby.

There’s a lot of talk about how he didn’t get a fair chance but I don’t see teams out there rushing to hire Brian Johnson as OC years later.

If I had to bet $, I’d say it’ll be Daboll. As I mentioned earlier today, the success he’s had, especially early on, with mobile QBs is enticing. And I don’t think Howie will be as worried as he probably should be about the potential personality clash with Sirianni - wouldn’t be surprised if Daboll’s prickliness is a pro, not a con (in other words, maybe it’ll get Sirianni’s hands off the offense more).

From Daboll’s perspective, it’d be a golden opportunity. All he has to do is peak here for a year and all the stink just falls right off him.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

There’s a lot of talk about how he didn’t get a fair chance but I don’t see teams out there rushing to hire Brian Johnson as OC years later.

He should file a defamation lawsuit against any professional writer comparing him to Patullo.

Just now, Saltpeter said:

If I had to bet $, I’d say it’ll be Daboll. As I mentioned earlier today, the success he’s had, especially early on, with mobile QBs is enticing. And I don’t think Howie will be as worried as he probably should be about the potential personality clash with Sirianni - wouldn’t be surprised if Daboll’s prickliness is a pro, not a con (in other words, maybe it’ll get Sirianni’s hands off the offense more).

From Daboll’s perspective, it’d be a golden opportunity. All he has to do is peak here for a year and all the stink just falls right off him.

Yes I’d think he was the betting favorite. Hurts history at Alabama. Sirriani history at KC. I think he has the same agent as Howie or at least did at one point

53 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Yup, that guy. And Lebanese are white, and some are Muslims which anybody can be if they want.

Lebanese are Arabs, just to be, you know, accurate.

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Lebanese are Arabs, just to be, you know, accurate.

Sure, also white. Caucasians are a lot of people.

He might be burnt out after being a coach also and could just prefer to be a coordinator