If Mannion is as excellent as other sources say, then everyone can settle down as Siri is surrounded by two excellent coordinators and we will be set up to dominate again.

Instead, everyone is screaming that the sky is falling because of their boners for hating on Sirianni and media created false narrative frenzy.

Calm down. We could be in for an exciting season.

Offense might be awesome. Defense will be awesome.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

If Mannion is a excellent as other sources say, then everyone can settle down as Siri is surrounded by two excellent coordinators and we will be set up to dominate again.

Instead, everyone is screaming that the sky is falling because of their boners for hating on Sirianni and media created false narrative frenzy.

Calm down. We could be in for an exciting season.

Offense might be awesome. Defense will be awesome.

When you are legit the voice of reason here that is saying something. Once again though, you are 100% correct. The outrage and drama over this is embarrassing. I made the mistake of listening to WIP for about 30 minutes tonight and this board might actually be even worse right now.

6 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

When you are legit the voice of reason here that is saying something. Once again though, you are 100% correct. The outrage and drama over this is embarrassing. I made the mistake of listening to WIP for about 30 minutes tonight and this board might actually be even worse right now.

The talk of ‘disrespect’ to Stoutland is exactly why a new OC will benefit from a clean break. It’s an unhealthy response to a position coach in relation a HC and OC making decisions

10 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

When you are legit the voice of reason here that is saying something. Once again though, you are 100% correct. The outrage and drama over this is embarrassing. I made the mistake of listening to WIP for about 30 minutes tonight and this board might actually be even worse right now.

lol...you know that troll is only 15 minutes away from explaining how Hurts needs to go because he is a bad fit for the new offensive scheme...zero credibility all the way around

The Eagles just lost one of the greatest assistant coaches in NFL history, responsible for helping the Eagles win multiple Super Bowls… oh and they drafted and signed offensive linemen hand picked by Stoutland that he planned to develop, so who knows what happens there and if those guys will even fit a new system. And in typical T-1000 fashion he starts whining about other people whining.

Whining about whining is still whining. Your copium aside, losing Jeff Fing Stoutland is a perfectly reasonable thing to be upset over. We haven’t had to worry about the OL here in almost 15 years, let’s see if you keep this same energy if things start to feel a little more like other teams around the NFL in Philly starting next season. Where the offensive line is actually an issue of concern. "the outrage and drama over this is embarrassing” my god STFU already.

I look at it all this way, I already thought there was a larger chance that they would take a regression because certain guys weren’t going to be back. Plus, you’re asking OC with no experience calling plays. Add on taking time for guys to learn the system and get it to be second nature to them. So there’s gonna be a learning curve and a chance lane, Dallas and aj are gone so less talent on offense.

So you’re either gonna get a team that is good and progresses as the season goes along and you wind up at a better spot by the end of everything. Or the Eagles regress more or stay status quo and good chance everybody’s getting fired, Fangio retires at the end of the year, but at least you’re gonna have a higher draft pick than what we’ve been getting the last couple years.

I’m not going to give Sirianni credit for "trying” to fix the offense. The job is to actually fix it, and he failed miserably.

56 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

You said Stout was demoted when the report I think you posted stated that he didnt want the title anymore as the run game did not reflect HIS run game.

We also dont know whether and to what extent Patullo's duties were changed. Thats an assumption by you while media speculated that it had changed.

As far as I know he never lost it

In other news the Sixers are consistently a poverty franchise that squanders whatever good fortune they have with horrendous moves

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not going to give Sirianni credit for "trying” to fix the offense. The job is to actually fix it, and he failed miserably.

The whole reason they are bringing an unproven guy like Mannion in and overhauling the coaching staff is because he couldn’t fix it.

Yet somehow here’s still here. I’m 100% convinced they probably think he sucks as a head coach or at the very least isn’t what they want as a head coach, but the only reason they haven’t fired him is "You just don’t fire coaches one year removed from a Super Bowl” and not actually because they think he’s good. Again, if they thought he was good, they wouldn’t have even considered firing him in 2024.

Think about it. If Sean Mannion is the Eagles next coach, he brings in that high flying Shanahan/McVay style offense. They go to a Super Bowl. The next year they collapse largely because the defense is awful. The following year they start out a little slow. Think Lurie would even consider firing that coach? No chance. The only reason they considered it is because Lurie’s white whale of a head coach is an offensive guru, Sirianni isn’t that, and he’s only still here for unspoken firing rules organizations have with coaches.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

The run game sucked. A decent chunk of people in the blog criticized Stoutland. So when people claimed Siri did nothing to try to fix the offense, we are going to complain that he actually tried to change the one thing about the offense that regressed more than anything else from the prior season? The thing we needed to be successful? We are seriously going to blame Siri for that now too? If he wasnt supposed to try to make things better, and he wasnt supposed to NOT try to make things better, what was he supposed to do?

He should’ve fixed it by firing his bestie KP

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

In other news the Sixers are consistently a poverty franchise that squanders whatever good fortune they have with horrendous moves

It was. He will play well for them and the 76ers got a pick if they use they won't get as good of a player. Beyond stupid.

25 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles just lost one of the greatest assistant coaches in NFL history, responsible for helping the Eagles win multiple Super Bowls… oh and they drafted and signed offensive linemen hand picked by Stoutland that he planned to develop, so who knows what happens there and if those guys will even fit a new system. And in typical T-1000 fashion he starts whining about other people whining.

Whining about whining is still whining. Your copium aside, losing Jeff Fing Stoutland is a perfectly reasonable thing to be upset over. We haven’t had to worry about the OL here in almost 15 years, let’s see if you keep this same energy if things start to feel a little more like other teams around the NFL in Philly starting next season. Where the offensive line is actually an issue of concern. "the outrage and drama over this is embarrassing” my god STFU already.

We haven’t had to worry about the oline dating back through the Andy Reid era. It was good/great before stout and continued that trend with stout. It will be fine without stout

27 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles just lost one of the greatest assistant coaches in NFL history, responsible for helping the Eagles win multiple Super Bowls… oh and they drafted and signed offensive linemen hand picked by Stoutland that he planned to develop, so who knows what happens there and if those guys will even fit a new system. And in typical T-1000 fashion he starts whining about other people whining.

Whining about whining is still whining. Your copium aside, losing Jeff Fing Stoutland is a perfectly reasonable thing to be upset over. We haven’t had to worry about the OL here in almost 15 years, let’s see if you keep this same energy if things start to feel a little more like other teams around the NFL in Philly starting next season. Where the offensive line is actually an issue of concern. "the outrage and drama over this is embarrassing” my god STFU already.

You prove yet again why you are THE laughing stock of this board. Jumior high girls everywhere are jealous of the amount of emotion and drama you bring to the table. "Greatest assistant coach in NFL history." You cant even make up this level of stupidity.

Also, I am whining about nothing you big dummy. I'm simply calling you out for being the dramatic whiney little **** that you are.

3 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

We haven’t had to worry about the oline dating back through the Andy Reid era. It was good/great before stout and continued that trend with stout. It will be fine without stout

I hope so, but those Eagles OLs didn't exactly play the best in big games. Andy Reid was amazing, Jim Johnson was amazing, but didn't win a Super Bowl. Something Stout was able to do multiple times. I think people are really taking how special he was for granted. There's a reason that you have players writing lengthy thank you's to him, players shouting him out in speeches, and players citing their college as "Jeff Stoutland university" in their introductions. The dude is a generational coach. How many offensive line coaches do we know by name? Everyone knows Stout. there's a reason for that. And I think it's a slap in the face to him to just act like the Eagles will roll right on along without him.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The whole reason they are bringing an unproven guy like Mannion in and overhauling the coaching staff is because he couldn’t fix it.

Yet somehow here’s still here. I’m 100% convinced they probably think he sucks as a head coach or at the very least isn’t what they want as a head coach, but the only reason they haven’t fired him is "You just don’t fire coaches one year removed from a Super Bowl” and not actually because they think he’s good. Again, if they thought he was good, they wouldn’t have even considered firing him in 2024.

Think about it. If Sean Mannion is the Eagles next coach, he brings in that high flying Shanahan/McVay style offense. They go to a Super Bowl. The next year they collapse largely because the defense is awful. The following year they start out a little slow. Think Lurie would even consider firing that coach? No chance. The only reason they considered it is because Lurie’s white whale of a head coach is an offensive guru, Sirianni isn’t that, and he’s only still here for unspoken firing rules organizations have with coaches.

He’s here because they’ve gone to the playoffs 5 years in a row and just won the division after winning the Super Bowl. They aren’t coming off a 6-win season where he’s getting Super Bowl good will. They still actually won the division this year. And people will say Fangio and that’s accurate but Nick the head coach and they won. Never in the history of the sport has a coach been fired in that situation

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

He’s here because they’ve gone to the playoffs 5 years in a row and just won the division after winning the Super Bowl. They aren’t coming off a 6-win season where he’s getting Super Bowl good will. They still actually won the division this year. And people will say Fangio and that’s accurate but Nick the head coach and they won. Never in the history of the sport has a coach been fired in that situation

If that is the case and say the Eagles win 10 games next season, win the division, make the playoffs, and go out in the wild card round because the offense isn't very good and/or they have situational coaching blunders, then he shouldn't be fired. After all, how could you fire a head coach who's been to multiple Super Bowls, would be only two years off winning one at that point, and has made the playoffs in every season he's in?

But I think we all know in that given scenario Sirianni would most assuredly be fired. Ask yourself why that is.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I hope so, but those Eagles OLs didn't exactly play the best in big games. Andy Reid was amazing, Jim Johnson was amazing, but didn't win a Super Bowl. Something Stout was able to do multiple times. I think people are really taking how special he was for granted. There's a reason that you have players writing lengthy thank you's to him, players shouting him out in speeches, and players citing their college as "Jeff Stoutland university" in their introductions. The dude is a generational coach. How many offensive line coaches do we know by name? Everyone knows Stout. there's a reason for that. And I think it's a slap in the face to him to just act like the Eagles will roll right on along without him.

I’m not saying he wasn’t special. But also acting like he’s irreplaceable or we won’t be able to duplicate any oline success without him is ridiculous. We have tremendous talent on the line as it sits. We will be fine

9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He didn’t thank the players either…

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If that is the case and say the Eagles win 10 games next season, win the division, make the playoffs, and go out in the wild card round because the offense isn't very good and/or they have situational coaching blunders, then he shouldn't be fired. After all, how could you fire a head coach who's been to multiple Super Bowls, would be only two years off winning one at that point, and has made the playoffs in every season he's in?

But I think we all know in that given scenario Sirianni would most assuredly be fired. Ask yourself why that is.

If they make the playoffs next year he’s unlikely to be fired but it’s more about trajectory. If the team is worse than this year and it looks like they need a different OC then he’s more likely to go. If Mannion struggles some but they win 10 or 11 and the feeling is they are going in the right direction then he won’t.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He didn’t thank the players either…

That is a good point. The entire thing feels off.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

He’s here because they’ve gone to the playoffs 5 years in a row and just won the division after winning the Super Bowl. They aren’t coming off a 6-win season where he’s getting Super Bowl good will. They still actually won the division this year. And people will say Fangio and that’s accurate but Nick the head coach and they won. Never in the history of the sport has a coach been fired in that situation

I kind of think this year is huge for sirianni. I don’t see the Eagles moving off of Jalen hurts until after 2027 because of the way his contract is structured. that’s when it makes the most sense. I do think Howie And Lurie Will start in motion a plan for his successor. Imo this is less about wins and losses but more about if this pass offense and offense figuring it out. If the pass offense for the third consecutive year is bottom third in the league and offense is bottom half of the league along with a regression in W/L record then i see them making a change at HC. not gonna fire the OC again because you just did that and went into an entirely new system/scheme and new coaches. Feels like Nick is tied to how this offense performs. I think wins and losses matter but if this is another WC exit as offense sputters and defense is bailed them out then i think they are looking for a new HC

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I kind of think this year is huge for sirianni. I don’t see the Eagles moving off of Jalen hurts until after 2027 because of the way his contract is structured. that’s when it makes the most sense. I do think Howie And Lurie Will start in motion a plan for his successor. Imo this is less about wins and losses but more about if this pass offense and offense figuring it out. If the pass offense for the third consecutive year is bottom third in the league and offense is bottom half of the league along with a regression in W/L record then i see them making a change at HC. not gonna fire the OC again because you just did that and went into an entirely new system/scheme and new coaches. Feels like Nick is tied to how this offense performs. I think wins and losses matter but if this is another WC exit as offense sputters and defense is bailed them out then i think they are looking for a new HC

Next thing is Lane is retiring

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He didn’t thank the players either…

Yeah I think Les is reading too much into that. But I’m sure there’s a little bad taste now which will probably go away with a little time