February 7Feb 7 18 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:Honestly wish we could just skip the 2026 season. We all know how it will turn out with Nick and Hurts both kicked to the curb at the end of the season. They will promote Mannion to HC, move up in the so called top heavy QB draft to start a new chapter and SB here we come by 2028
February 7Feb 7 10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:Feels like a good time to reiterate that this wasn't some seasoned offensive mind that was asked to explain the why and how of a play's design, it was Kevin F'ing Patullo. And there's a very good reason why he'll never be an offensive coordinator ever again in this league. Kevin Byard looked like dogshit when he had Desai and Patricia calling defenses, then suddenly he's racking up 7 picks and earns first team all-pro honors in his first year under Dennis Allen (who's not even that great of a DC.)Somehow the impact of coaching keeps getting undervalued among long-time fans despite all the evidence to the contrary staring us in the face.For marginal talent sure. Are you now saying Hurts is a mediocre qb?
February 7Feb 7 2 hours ago, Breeze 44 said:No..it's NOBODY in the NFL is even remotely interested in him coaching their team..just that simple but has to throw that out there to keep the he's in charge and victimnarrative goingIt really amazes me that someone like this has had so much success in life. They say to be successful you need to be positive, not have a victim mindset, not blame everyone else when things go wrong, etc. This guy does the opposite of what every says you needs to do to be successful. God forbid he would look in the mirror at the hubris and entitlement he and his kid showed leading up to the draft as to why he slipped as far as he did.
February 7Feb 7 Just now, ToastJenkins said:For marginal talent sure. Are you now saying Hurts is a mediocre qb?No clue what you're even talking about, brother. Provide context.
February 7Feb 7 5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:We can calm down about Stoutland going to the GiantsHe's still under contract with the Eagles, it wasn't happening regardless.
February 7Feb 7 BTW, Herbert had his healthy line and weapons the year before. He threw 4 picks in that playoff game.101.7 passer rating in the regular season and 40.7 in the playoffs.It was against 2024 Houston with the 14 6 ranked D, not 2025 Houston.Herbert had 4 picks in 36+ drop backs that day.Hurts has 3 playoff picks in 214+ drop backs.
February 7Feb 7 Micah saying the Eagles offered Carter & picks for Micah. Maybe the Cowboys offered that, but no way Howie did.
February 7Feb 7 Just now, we_gotta_believe said:No clue what you're even talking about, brother. Provide context.Byard is washed. So yes coaching/use and scheme fit will matter far more for a player like Him. And Int are a bad metric as they tend to be randomQ is elite and can play in any scheme for any coach. Actually think Coop is excellent but at his best in a fangio scheme. Jalen carter will be a force under any coachIf Hurts is elite (and indont think he is) then he should also be able to Produce even with an incompetent OC no? Patullo was not autonomous.Two elite wrs and he wont throw in the middle? Cant read zone or blitz? Same issues he had before Patullo. Thats a hurts deficiency.I am very curious to see how Mannion directs him. Dude is smart as hell but green. Personally i hope we 99% of the Time have AJ and Smitty lined up on the same side and dare teams to play zone. Flood half the field and/or run it down their throat
February 7Feb 7 1 minute ago, RLC said:Micah saying the Eagles offered Carter & picks for Micah. Maybe the Cowboys offered that, but no way Howie did.They would not pay Micah but they had him involved in the details of trade negotiations... yeah, sure!They would not talk to his agent but gave his agent detailed info on trade negotiations?
February 7Feb 7 20 minutes ago, T-1000 said:Absolutely not. They have several needs and even without Dean the LB position is way down that list. Not to mention he can't stay healthy. Not to mention if you bring him back you will have essentially wasted a first round pick on Campbell.Team is too dysfunctional to start bleeding leadership.
February 7Feb 7 1 minute ago, T-1000 said:Absolutely not. They have several needs and even without Dean the LB position is way down that list. Not to mention he can't stay healthy. Not to mention if you bring him back you will have essentially wasted a first round pick on Campbell.I know we're never going to agree on Dean being a priority, but he's a Vic guy. He's the leader of the defense. He's more important to this team then anyone is giving him credit for. Once a player is on the team, their draft status is history. I want the best players on the field and at LB, it's Dean. This is where you can argue he's missed games, but Campbell missed games at Alabama, it's the whole reason he dropped. If Campbell has to sit an extra year or be a situational player until Baun plays, so be it. What I see in Jihaad Campbell is a more athletic Alex Singleton. I see a stats gatherer rather than an impact playmaker. He's a drag down tackler, not an explode through the ball carrier tackler. Dean on the other hand plays violent. He's on attack mode every play. When he hits the ball carrier, he's driving through. Same with when he blitzes. He's driving through the blocker. Objectively watch the Campbell highlights and tell me you'd rather have him on the field instead of Dean. He flashed at times. His best game was against TB. The stick he had on Bucky Irving was one the best plays he made. Now watch the Dean tape and keep in mind, this is Dean coming off a major knee injury.I want Dean and Campbell playing together, not one or the other. Sorry the YouTube videos don't imbed.Campbell rookie highlightsNakobe Dean 2025
February 7Feb 7 2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:Team is too dysfunctional to start bleeding leadership.The team has MAJOR Needs at CB2, S, Edge, TE, possibly WR, and possibly the biggest needs at on the OL depending on who is or is not back. WITHOUT Dean they have Baun, Campbell, Trotter Jr., and Mondon at LB. During the SB run they were perfectly fine at LB with a JAG next to Baun after Nakobe got hurt. Nakobe is always hurt. There are only so many cap dollars to go around. They drafted his replacement in the first round a year ago and he showed flashes when he played before Nakobe returned. Bringing back Nakobe for anything short of a cheap one year deal would be downright stupid.
February 7Feb 7 Comparing rookie Jihaad Campbell, who had surgery during his draft process, to Nakobe in the 2nd year of the system is not quite a fair comparison. All the respect to Nakobe, but we already decided to let him walk once we drafted Campbell in RD1.
February 7Feb 7 5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:I know we're never going to agree on Dean being a priority, but he's a Vic guy. He's the leader of the defense. He's more important to this team then anyone is giving him credit for.Once a player is on the team, their draft status is history. I want the best players on the field and at LB, it's Dean. This is where you can argue he's missed games, but Campbell missed games at Alabama, it's the whole reason he dropped. If Campbell has to sit an extra year or be a situational player until Baun plays, so be it.What I see in Jihaad Campbell is a more athletic Alex Singleton. I see a stats gatherer rather than an impact playmaker. He's a drag down tackler, not an explode through the ball carrier tackler.Dean on the other hand plays violent. He's on attack mode every play. When he hits the ball carrier, he's driving through. Same with when he blitzes. He's driving through the blocker.Objectively watch the Campbell highlights and tell me you'd rather have him on the field instead of Dean. He flashed at times. His best game was against TB. The stick he had on Bucky Irving was one the best plays he made.Now watch the Dean tape and keep in mind, this is Dean coming off a major knee injury.I want Dean and Campbell playing together, not one or the other.Sorry the YouTube videos don't imbed.Campbell rookie highlightsNakobe Dean 2025You are speaking in general terms. Obviously in general terms everyone would like to bring Nakobe back. This is the real world though where there is a salary cap, and decisions needs to be made from a nuanced perspective. The LB position is perfectly fine without Dean, the same can't be said for MULTIPLE other positions on this team which are in dire need of upgrades. There is also a salary cap so everything and everyone must be prioritized. I get that some people absolutely love Nakobe Dean. I like him a lot myself I don't love him though because he is always hurt and isn't exactly a plus player in coverage. Regardless, separate the love for the player with practical and factual information and it's quite obvious that there is no room for him.
February 7Feb 7 Just now, RLC said:Comparing rookie Jihaad Campbell, who had surgery during his draft process, to Nakobe in the 2nd year of the system is not quite a fair comparison.All the respect to Nakobe, but we already decided to let him walk once we drafted Campbell in RD1.Yep. Not only that, people have a super short memory. Pretty much everyone was ready to write Nakobe off as a bust until about half way through his THIRD NFL season. Campbell showed far more as a rookie than Nakobe ever showed in his first two seasons. Obviously Nakobe heading into his 5th season is a better player on paper than Campbell. However, it's not even close to that simple. Nakobe will cost a ton more and there is a cap. Bringing back Nakobe almost makes last year's first round pick investment in Campbell a waste. LB WITHOUT Nakobe (Baun, Campbell, Trotter, Mondon) is in much better shape than several positions on the team. Nakobe can't be counted on to stay healthy, etc etc. Again, short of Nakonbe taking an insane hometown discount which is highly unlikely this shouldn't even be a discussion.
February 7Feb 7 Just now, T-1000 said:You are speaking in general terms. Obviously in general terms everyone would like to bring Nakobe back. This is the real world though where there is a salary cap, and decisions needs to be made from a nuanced perspective. The LB position is perfectly fine without Dean, the same can't be said for MULTIPLE other positions on this team which are in dire need of upgrades. There is also a salary cap so everything and everyone must be prioritized. I get that some people absolutely love Nakobe Dean. I like him a lot myself I don't love him though because he is always hurt and isn't exactly a plus player in coverage. Regardless, separate the love for the player with practical and factual information and it's quite obvious that there is no room for him.I know there's a cap, and I'm going to be bullish on them using cap space to keep one of their best players and defensive leaders on the team. The impact Dean makes is bigger than the impact Blankenship makes, bigger than the impact Phillips makes and I'm not using cap dollars to bring back Adoree Jackson instead of Nakobe Dean.
February 7Feb 7 6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:I know there's a cap, and I'm going to be bullish on them using cap space to keep one of their best players and defensive leaders on the team. The impact Dean makes is bigger than the impact Blankenship makes, bigger than the impact Phillips makes and I'm not using cap dollars to bring back Adoree Jackson instead of Nakobe Dean.Problem is he can't stay healthy. I hope they keep him but with the cap going up someone is throwing stupid money at him.
February 7Feb 7 5 minutes ago, RLC said:Comparing rookie Jihaad Campbell, who had surgery during his draft process, to Nakobe in the 2nd year of the system is not quite a fair comparison.All the respect to Nakobe, but we already decided to let him walk once we drafted Campbell in RD1.Agree to disagree. The comparison is their playing style, not their understanding of the system. Campbell and Dean couldn't be more different as players. Take 10 minutes and watch the two videos. Campbell is a great LB playing in space. He's not going to get the ball carrier get past him, but at the same time, he doesn't really attack THROUGH the ball carrier. He blitzes the same way. That has nothing to do with him being a rookie or learning the system. It's the way he plays the game. It's the way Alex Singleton plays the game, and he's been a good LB for the Broncos since he left here. Nakobe Dean is a violent downhill player. He's an attacker. He's exploding through the player, whether it's to make at tackle or on a blitz. No, he doesn't have the length that Campbell has nor does he play as good in open space, but he can still cover. Are we forgetting the INT against JAX 2 years ago?And again, I'll disagree. Drafting Campbell was insurance for Dean being injured. Dean put at 1st rounder on the bench and told the Eagles, I'm that guy.
February 7Feb 7 6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:I know there's a cap, and I'm going to be bullish on them using cap space to keep one of their best players and defensive leaders on the team. The impact Dean makes is bigger than the impact Blankenship makes, bigger than the impact Phillips makes and I'm not using cap dollars to bring back Adoree Jackson instead of Nakobe Dean.I’m not sure Adoree should be catching strays after the performance of Ringo/Bennett. By being competent he really pulled the bacon out of the fire down the stretch.
February 7Feb 7 This is how I would rank the Eagles needs heading into the offseason:Offensive Line - Even IF Lane and Dickerson are back, this should be priority number 1. If one or both of them retire it should be priority numbers 1, 2, 3, etc. I don't care who you have at the skill positions, you don't have success in this league without a good OL. I know there is some debate but after seeing Steen for an entire season as a starter I think he is far more suited to be a 6th OL than a starter. If Lane does come back you are still going to need to replace him in 2027 most likely. Depth was a major issue at the position this past season. We could be looking at a completely revamped OL in 2026, or at the very least a new look and a revamp in 2027. All roads back to success for this offense/team lead to an improvement for the OL.Tight End - This position needs completely revamped. GC brings NOTHING to the table. Goedert was not the blocker he once was last season and is a free agent who probably won't be back. Mannion is likely to run a lot of two or even three TE sets and marry the run and pass games together. This means a lot of play action and a lot of importance on the TE position. Between free agency and the draft this team is going to need AT LEAST two new significant TE's, possibly three.Wide Receiver - IF AJ is back you can move this down a couple of spots but it will still be a need. They currently don't have a WR on this roster under contract after Brown and Smith with a certain future with the team. IF AJ gets traded you need to either sign a big time free agent, draft a WR in the first round, or do some combination of a solid WR in free agency and drafting a WR in the first three rounds somewhere.S - I will keep it short. Reed is a free agent coming off of a down year. Mukuba flashed some big plays, and also flashed some bad rookie mistakes and unfortunately missed a lot of games due to injury to develop. They also have no depth at the position.CB2 - Some would probably have this higher but they showed that with a bum like Adore Jackson they could get by with Vic's scheme and by having young stud like Q and Coop. I would love a nice upgrade, but I'm pretty sure they could sign a cheap veteran in free agency and he could be an upgrade over Jackson.Edge - With Phillips as a free agent they are back down to two healthy edges and Smith can't seem to stay healthy. Whether it be Phillips, another free agent, a high draft pick, this position will need to be addressed.So with all of these needs, the LB position in good shape with Baun, Campbell, Trotter, and Mondon, a salary cap in place, etc people still thinking that bringing back Nakobe Dean should be a high priority is borderline moronic.
February 7Feb 7 11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:I know there's a cap, and I'm going to be bullish on them using cap space to keep one of their best players and defensive leaders on the team. The impact Dean makes is bigger than the impact Blankenship makes, bigger than the impact Phillips makes and I'm not using cap dollars to bring back Adoree Jackson instead of Nakobe Dean.Again you are speaking in a general sense and not looking at the bigger picture. Obviously Nakobe makes a bigger impact than Blankenship or Jackson. Phillips I completely disagree on but that is a whole different argument. However, without Nakobe you have a first round pick in Campbell ready to step in and play at LB at a fraction of the cost of Nakobe against the cap, meanwhile you have nobody and nothing at S and C to replace those other guys.
February 7Feb 7 5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:Agree to disagree. The comparison is their playing style, not their understanding of the system. Campbell and Dean couldn't be more different as players.Take 10 minutes and watch the two videos.Campbell is a great LB playing in space. He's not going to get the ball carrier get past him, but at the same time, he doesn't really attack THROUGH the ball carrier. He blitzes the same way. That has nothing to do with him being a rookie or learning the system. It's the way he plays the game. It's the way Alex Singleton plays the game, and he's been a good LB for the Broncos since he left here.Nakobe Dean is a violent downhill player. He's an attacker. He's exploding through the player, whether it's to make at tackle or on a blitz. No, he doesn't have the length that Campbell has nor does he play as good in open space, but he can still cover. Are we forgetting the INT against JAX 2 years ago?They're very different players, but that doesn't mean Dean is better. Ex:Dean blitzes through the RB, while Campbell blitzes with speed trying to get around the RB.Campbell runs sideline to sideline, Dean runs to the LOSCampbell is more physically gifted and Campbell started off as an EDGE at Alabama. He just needs to play.
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