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Maybe this is crazy but its possible AJ has lost a step and isnt as dominant as he was.

I'm all for keeping him but maybe Devonta should be getting more targets. Treat him as the true #1.

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Just a thought; AJ sat out during the season with a hamstring issue. That may have impacted his play somewhat.

9 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

Just a thought; AJ sat out during the season with a hamstring issue. That may have impacted his play somewhat.

AJ has gotten banged up or afflicted with injury every year of his career other than his first year here. If they were to trade him I think he is at the highest level of value from here on out the rest of his career that they could probably get for him in a trade. He and Roseman/Lurie/Mannion need to get together in the next month and figure out if he is in or if they need to just quickly move on from him so they don't have that hanging over their FA move decisions.

48 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, I’m not trying to use the Patriots as some blueprint to make it to the SB. They’re like the 12th best team in the league.

Can you send a report back from your alternate reality of the 11 teams better than New England?

It will be fun to read it after they win.

Does Patullo coach on one of those 11? Do they have a pretend healthy O-line in your dimension?

Did the Patriots just beat 3 of the 11 in the playoffs? Do you have some "it was unfair" propaganda for each playoff win?

Are we counting almost wins for the Rams? Did those two epic battles vs 8-9 Carolina sell you on LA?

Are the 23 29 ranked defense Bears just not getting enough respect after beating the injured Packers by 4 in the playoffs?

Did one of those 11 finish 2nd in the AFC East behind the Patriots?

All Herbert needed was 15 more drives, maybe with 9 Patriots on defense, and he would have really shown them his ultimate power?

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I think the whole idea of stripping down our receiving corps to Smith, Dotson and Cooper (putting aside tight end) and actively making things worse for our QB who isn’t known for elevating talent around him to be completely absurd.

  1. Originated in a scenario when there's no cap implications of trading brown do you can draft a new WR

  2. If we have a QB who cant make it work with an elite WR1 (smitty) and 2 serviceable receivers we have a much bigger problem

Dotson would be a fine 2. Not great, not awful. His route running isn't neatly as bad as you're making it out to be. Again, there are teams withh much worse recievers without great QBs (i left the bills off for that reason) doing better. If you think brown leaving makes the whole offense sink then you must not think Smith is that good

AJ looked like he had his usual speed. Didn't lose a step. But he didn't make the CB miss and run after the catch this year on his curls. May have been due to his lack of effort or maybe he did lose some lateral agility, which isn't really eplained by his over hyped hamstring injury.

Would love to see him in the be offense and hope he will be happier in the new offense.

It does make football sense and cap sense to distribute his money among a few other positions. Would be very helpful. All the money spent at WR is beyond the point of diminishing returns. It's not a good allocation of cap dollars with this QB.

I understand the sentiment of getting rid of AJ purely for football reasons. This passing offense can’t make use of 2 premium WRs. His best days are behind him. He’s becoming a smaller window WR for a qb who doesn’t throw into small windows.

The issue is that, due to his and the teams cap situation, you lose more than you gain when you trade him.

Pretty clear on tape that AJ lost a step. That and his injury concerns are very real. Knee/hamstring injuries in 2023, 2024 and 2025. That's not even including the off-field stuff.

It's time to sell him at the peak of his value.

6 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Can you send a report back from your alternate reality of the 11 teams better than New England?

It will be fun to read it after they win.

Does Patullo coach on one of those 11? Do they have a pretend healthy O-line in your dimension?

Did the Patriots just beat 3 of the 11 in the playoffs? Do you have some "it was unfair" propaganda for each playoff win?

Are we counting almost wins for the Rams? Did those two epic battles vs 8-9 Carolina sell you on LA?

Are the 23 29 ranked defense Bears just not getting enough respect after beating the injured Packers by 4 in the playoffs?

Did one of those 11 finish 2nd in the AFC East behind the Patriots?

I was exaggerating for effect, but I think the Pats took great advantage of a weak schedule with things lining up perfectly for them in the playoffs — namely Nix’s injury. They were probably closer to Green Bay than being some kind of juggernaut.

4 hours ago, devpool said:
  1. Originated in a scenario when there's no cap implications of trading brown do you can draft a new WR

  2. If we have a QB who cant make it work with an elite WR1 (smitty) and 2 serviceable receivers we have a much bigger problem

Dotson would be a fine 2. Not great, not awful. His route running isn't neatly as bad as you're making it out to be. Again, there are teams withh much worse recievers without great QBs (i left the bills off for that reason) doing better. If you think brown leaving makes the whole offense sink then you must not think Smith is that good

As for 2, I don’t think Smith is an elite No. 1. He’s fine as a No. 1, but not elite. He’s not a top 5-10 WR in the league. Dotson is a JAG and Cooper hasn’t shown anything aside from the preseason.

I’m not against moving on from Brown, but not because our offense stunk last year. I’d move on if they believe he’s starting to decline or if he’s just a malcontent.

And if we did, Howie wouldn’t settle for Dotson and Cooper as the 2/3. He’d certainly sign a FA or spend a premium pick on a WR.

Get Dotson off the team. He doesn't block. He runs bad routes. He doesn't always finish routes.

He's a small player who is at his best with contested catches. Hurts doesn't want to live that way, so it's a bad fit.

Smith at 1.

??? At 2.

Cooper at 3.

Need a vertical WR with speed.

Former Eagle

21 minutes ago, RLC said:

Get Dotson off the team. He doesn't block. He runs bad routes. He doesn't always finish routes.

He's a small player who is at his best with contested catches. Hurts doesn't want to live that way, so it's a bad fit.

Smith at 1.

??? At 2.

Cooper at 3.

Need a vertical WR with speed.

Dotson is a quality number 2 WR who never got enough opportunities here. If I were him, I’d want to leave.

I think I’d prefer a bigger WR who can make plays down the field and in traffic. Honestly, I hope somehow we keep AJ another season. I don’t think we’ll get the haul everyone seems to think we will.

7 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Dotson is a quality number 2 WR who never got enough opportunities here. If I were him, I’d want to leave.

I think I’d prefer a bigger WR who can make plays down the field and in traffic. Honestly, I hope somehow we keep AJ another season. I don’t think we’ll get the haul everyone seems to think we will.

I think Dotson is a guy who is living off some rookie year flashes. He lost his job in Washington to some awfully meh receivers before getting shipped off here.

I don’t hold his lack of production against him here. That’s the nature of being the third receiver here. And maybe his lazy route running was human nature from repeatedly not seeing the ball… but on no planet should he be considered even a solid No. 2 based on what he’s put on film in the NFL.

I wouldnt go as far as saying Dotson is a quality #2. I bet he would make an excellent vertical slot.

If Howie were to trade AJ, then he should make sure to have WR depth first, and possibly do it at the deadline once the WRs prove themselves. 1 FA signing. 1 draft pick.

Shoulda kept Metchie too....

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I wouldnt go as far as saying Dotson is a quality #2. I bet he would make an excellent vertical slot.

If Howie were to trade AJ, then he should make sure to have WR depth first, and possibly do it at the deadline once the WRs prove themselves. 1 FA signing. 1 draft pick.

Shoulda kept Metchie too....

Metchie would have fit a McVay offense pretty well as a dirty work slot.

12 hours ago, T-1000 said:

You keep proving my point for me. Those are all things you like about him as a player. Which brings me back to my original point which is you keep making this general and are too dang stubborn to point out of the nuance of this conversation. In a team sport with a salary cap moves aren't made in a vacuum but you keep acting as if they are. You have yet to explain why it's so important to invest cap dollars in him when there are numerous other positions of need that don't have a first round pick currently on the roster ready to take those spots like with Campbell at LB.

Not to keep hashing this out, but those things are the traits that make him a great player and why they should use cap space to bring him back. If you want to call it me liking the player, fine. The Eagles defense is better with him on the field than it was with Campbell on the field. Point blank. I don't know what sort of magical formula you want to see to prove why they should spend on him. I responded to your post about top 5 positions of need and pointed out that many of the positions that the Eagles have holes can be filled in the draft or trade. The FA available aren't worth signing. I think Jaelan Phillips is just as much an injury risk that Dean is. Dean is more important to the team than Phillips.

I would use the cap space on Nakobe Dean, Marcus Epps, Braden Mann, mid-level TE (Cade Otton), rotational Edge (AJ Epenesa), and OL depth.

I'm drafting OL/CB/S/TE/WR and I'm looking at the trade market for a young veteran CB2, WR depth.

Not sure why everyone is so hung up on Jihaad Campbell being a 1st rounder. So what? He's a nice player but his tape wasn't THAT great. He made a few plays. I mean no disrespect when I say he looks like a more athletic Alex Singleton. And again, the Eagles showed last year they would spend on LB when they brought Baun back. I'm suggesting they do the same with Dean with the intent of moving on from Baun after 2026. You structure the contracts so the spend is the same year over year.

You got $5.

$4 Phillips DE

$3 Dean LB

$3 Goedert TE

$2 Blankenship S

$2 Jackson CB

$2 Johnson OT

$2 Dotson WR

$1 Toth OL

$1 Mann P

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Welp they had a good one year run

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Not to keep hashing this out, but those things are the traits that make him a great player and why they should use cap space to bring him back. If you want to call it me liking the player, fine. The Eagles defense is better with him on the field than it was with Campbell on the field. Point blank. I don't know what sort of magical formula you want to see to prove why they should spend on him. I responded to your post about top 5 positions of need and pointed out that many of the positions that the Eagles have holes can be filled in the draft or trade. The FA available aren't worth signing. I think Jaelan Phillips is just as much an injury risk that Dean is. Dean is more important to the team than Phillips.

I would use the cap space on Nakobe Dean, Marcus Epps, Braden Mann, mid-level TE (Cade Otton), rotational Edge (AJ Epenesa), and OL depth.

I'm drafting OL/CB/S/TE/WR and I'm looking at the trade market for a young veteran CB2, WR depth.

Not sure why everyone is so hung up on Jihaad Campbell being a 1st rounder. So what? He's a nice player but his tape wasn't THAT great. He made a few plays. I mean no disrespect when I say he looks like a more athletic Alex Singleton. And again, the Eagles showed last year they would spend on LB when they brought Baun back. I'm suggesting they do the same with Dean with the intent of moving on from Baun after 2026. You structure the contracts so the spend is the same year over year.

I’ve definitely warmed to the idea of keeping Dean, even if I don’t believe it’s the best use of cap space (I do think he’ll get a good payday in FA). It’s obvious Vic loves him, and he might use his leverage to push the Eagles to make a real effort to re-sign him.

What does Dotson do "well" ?

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