3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Yep. I'm not even considering trading Jalen Carter for anything less than a Micah Parsons like package which was a two first round picks and a quality defensive lineman.

Part of me wonders if it’s the jags if Travon Walker is someone the eagles would want as part of the deal. He is on his 5th year option this year, 25 and also coming off a down year.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Part of me wonders if it’s the jags if Travon Walker is someone the eagles would want as part of the deal. He is on his 5th year option this year, 25 and also coming off a down year.

Me personally I wouldn't trade Jalen Carter straight up for Travon Walker and I could be wrong but I doubt the Jags would trade him and more for Carter. I thought Walker was WAY over drafted as the number 1 overall pick at the time and he has done nothing to change my mind about that and last year in particular he was borderline irrelevant.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

In my opinion he is either getting traded before the legal tampering period begins tomorrow or he will be an Eagle in 2026. The Eagles simply have way too many moving pieces both in the short and long term to move forward with a plan without knowing the situation with Brown one way or the other. If the report from yesterday is true that the Patriots are refusing to move a first for Brown he is going to be here. If you read the tea leaves it's either the Eagles or Pats at this point and after DJ FN Moore of all people went for a 2nd Brown's value is easily a first round pick plus and I am confident Howie won't sell him for pennies on the dollar.

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Me personally I wouldn't trade Jalen Carter straight up for Travon Walker and I could be wrong but I doubt the Jags would trade him and more for Carter. I thought Walker was WAY over drafted as the number 1 overall pick at the time and he has done nothing to change my mind about that and last year in particular he was borderline irrelevant.

Tbh it’s kind of why i think the jags haven’t gotten an extension done yet.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Part of me wonders if it’s the jags if Travon Walker is someone the eagles would want as part of the deal. He is on his 5th year option this year, 25 and also coming off a down year.

Problem with this deal is Walker needs an extension too. If Walker was in the second year or maybe 3rd of his rookie contract, then I think it makes more sense. But this deal needs to include their 2027 first no matter what.

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Problem with this deal is Walker needs an extension too. If Walker was in the second year or maybe 3rd of his rookie contract, then I think it makes more sense. But this deal needs to include their 2027 first no matter what.

I think it’s why jags would need to include more. Coming off a down year and needs an extension.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Well do we want Carter to be moved…?

I'm warming up to it. How are his shoulders? Someone also said yesterday he is a walking 15-yard penalty waiting to happen. Do I want him gone? No, but I don't think he's worth 30+ million with those concerns. Williams brought a first and a second. If someone offers two firsts that's potentially two affordable players under team control for 5 years. The ideal situation is for him to mature and have no shoulder issues and stay in town for the next 5 years being the dominate player he can be. If Howie has concerns I trust him and see the upside.

36 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Just to rile everyone up a bit…

FanSided

This Eagles-Jaguars trade for Jalen Carter is too good fo...

While A.J. Brown is the most popular Philadelphia Eagles trade candidate, Jalen Carter might be a more realistic player to be moved in the near future, since it

LMAO, I finally read this "article." That dude is some damn good drugs if he thinks would ever consider trading Jalen Carter for a 2nd and 3rd. There is wishful thinking in a trade idea and there is straight up delusion. Then there is this which is just embarrassing for the person coming up with it.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm warming up to it. How are his shoulders? Someone also said yesterday he is a walking 15-yard penalty waiting to happen. Do I want him gone? No, but I don't think he's worth 30+ million with those concerns. Williams brought a first and a second. If someone offers two firsts that's potentially two affordable players under team control for 5 years. The ideal situation is for him to mature and have no shoulder issues and stay in town for the next 5 years being the dominate player he can be. If Howie has concerns I trust him and see the upside.

Yep. If the Eagles could get an extension done with Moro Ojomo for around 20 million per year, and get two first round picks and say a solid rotational DT for Jalen Carter I would have to strongly consider it. Ojomo, a 3rd DT, and two first round picks at similar cap value to a 30-35 million Jalen Carter extension would actually be an interesting decision to make.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think it’s why jags would need to include more. Coming off a down year and needs an extension.

Walker the player fits but his contract timing doesn't seem to. Their 2027 first needs to be added as well. Still not crazy about it.

I do see the Jets with some of the right ingredients. They have 3 first rounders in 2027. Their own, Dallas, Colts.

You could start with pick #16, Membou (for RG/RT) Colts 2027 1st. That doesn't seem far off, not sure if they'd trade a Membou though.

Lest we forget, without Carter we probably lose to the Rams and so, no Super Bowl two seasons ago. How many players in the league make those back to back plays? Last year he was hurt but played through it.

No way we trade this guy. Just no way. Two firsts? Nowhere near enough, especially since they aren’t top five picks from any team.

No. Just no.

If they do move him it better be to the AFC unless an NFC team overpays. Pissed off and motivated Carter isn't someone I'd want them facing. Unless you can get him to spit on you.

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Walker the player fits but his contract timing doesn't seem to. Their 2027 first needs to be added as well. Still not crazy about it.

I do see the Jets with some of the right ingredients. They have 3 first rounders in 2027. Their own, Dallas, Colts.

You could start with pick #16, Membou (for RG/RT) Colts 2027 1st. That doesn't seem far off, not sure if they'd trade a Membou though.

The issue with the Jets is that I don’t think they are in position to make a move like that without having their quarterback in place. Those picks are likely going to be set up for them to eventually get their quarterback by maneuvering around the draft. I also don’t think they want to pay Jalen Carter a contract extension that he’s likely seeking when they are in a rebuild. I think if they were further along in their rebuild, it makes more sense.

Just now, just relax said:

Lest we forget, without Carter we probably lose to the Rams and so, no Super Bowl two seasons ago. How many players in the league make those back to back plays? Last year he was hurt but played through it.

No way we trade this guy. Just no way. Two firsts? Nowhere near enough, especially since they aren’t top five picks from any team.

No. Just no.

In a vacuum, of course. This entire situation/decision/discussion is far too nuanced though. Maybe the Eagles complicated matters by investing in Davis the way they did but at this point that is irrelevant. They obviously think Davis's massive improvement this past season is just the start and he came become a 3 down DT who can contribute to the pass rush. With that being the case, his cap hit moving forward, and so many young talented players defensive players set to hit free agency over the next 2-3 years (Phillips, Quinyon, Coop, Hunt, Smith, Ojomo) difficult decisions are going to need to be made. Howie said it himself at the end of season press conference. Like it or not, they might and I stress MIGHT have chose Jordan Davis at 22 million over Jalen Carter at 35 million for the long term.

5 minutes ago, just relax said:

Lest we forget, without Carter we probably lose to the Rams and so, no Super Bowl two seasons ago. How many players in the league make those back to back plays? Last year he was hurt but played through it.

No way we trade this guy. Just no way. Two firsts? Nowhere near enough, especially since they aren’t top five picks from any team.

No. Just no.

Frankly, I wouldn’t trade him. I think he’s too valuable to get back what you would need in order to make that move. But I’m also in the off-season and there’s not much else to discuss so it is a fascinating question on what they could get from other teams in terms of his value.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The issue with the Jets is that I don’t think they are in position to make a move like that without having their quarterback in place. Those picks are likely going to be set up for them to eventually get their quarterback by maneuvering around the draft. I also don’t think they want to pay Jalen Carter a contract extension that he’s likely seeking when they are in a rebuild. I think if they were further along in their rebuild, it makes more sense.

The Raiders are a team I could see being heavily interested in Jalen Carter. That is a franchise/team who has been a cellar dweller for years in desperate need of some talent and excitement injected into their franchise. They now have a surplus of assets having just trade Crosby for two first round picks. Carter also just seems to fit the Raiders with his swagger and let's be honest at times dirty play. For the Eagles trading him there allows them to send to the AFC and again they have the surplus of high end draft picks to move.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly, I wouldn’t trade him. I think he’s too valuable to get back what you would need in order to make that move. But I’m also in the off-season and there’s not much else to discuss so it is a fascinating question on what they could get from other teams in terms of his value.

My thoughts exactly. In general I wouldn't trade him, no way. It does provide some very interesting and nuanced discussion though.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The issue with the Jets is that I don’t think they are in position to make a move like that without having their quarterback in place. Those picks are likely going to be set up for them to eventually get their quarterback by maneuvering around the draft. I also don’t think they want to pay Jalen Carter a contract extension that he’s likely seeking when they are in a rebuild. I think if they were further along in their rebuild, it makes more sense.

That's why we couldn't get their 2027 first, but I could see them dealing the Cowboys or Colts. 

They would be getting a young phenom on defense. I think it's a good way for them to begin to build a foundation on defense. They're not paying anyone else on defense. 

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Lest we forget, without Carter we probably lose to the Rams and so, no Super Bowl two seasons ago. How many players in the league make those back to back plays? Last year he was hurt but played through it.

No way we trade this guy. Just no way. Two firsts? Nowhere near enough, especially since they aren’t top five picks from any team.

No. Just no.

How many truly dominate players lack the self control to not get tossed before the first defensive snap of the season? That incident is going to cause the NFL to come down even harsher on him the next time something happens. He also had two bad shoulders. How are they medically speaking? It's not like Howie woke up recently and said I want to trade arguably their most talented player. There are big questions to keeping him around and giving him a massive contract, so I don't think any of us are rooting for him to be gone, but if it happens we understand why. I'm sure Cowboy fans were thinking the same thing as you this time last year "no way". The price is going to have to be very high. If someone meets that I personally think Howie makes a move. It's going to be sad.

39 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Who said anything about "trading him just because?" Also, just because the Eagles hypothetically decide they think he is too risky to invest 35 million dollars a year into him doesn't mean some other team might disagree and be willing to sell the farm for him meaning his trade value isn't lowered. All it takes is one desperate team who has been terrible for years to think that Carter can change their franchise and make an offer the Eagles can't refuse. My point is I started talking about this about 20 minutes with a very "black and white approach" which is you don't trade Carter and the more I think about it and discuss it the more I realize this is an extremely nuanced discussion and decision for the Eagles.

Yes it is. As is pretty much everything related to roster moves.

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

That's why we couldn't get their 2027 first, but I could see them dealing the Cowboys or Colts. 

They would be getting a young phenom on defense. I think it's a good way for them to begin to build a foundation on defense. They're not paying anyone else on defense. 

The problem is, I don’t see them giving up those picks as they might not get the number one pick next year. They might have to use those picks in 2027 to move up to get their quarterback they want. I don’t see them trading away draft picks now not knowing where they’re going to picking in 2027. Because if they’re picking at let’s say 4 and they need an extra first or two extra 1st to move up to one to get that quarterback they want. If you traded it away for Jalen Carter in the 2026 off-season then it hurts their flexibility to maneuver to get their Qb. Granted they could give up future draft capital but that makes it harder to build your roster around that Qb and Carter.

14 minutes ago, just relax said:

Lest we forget, without Carter we probably lose to the Rams and so, no Super Bowl two seasons ago. How many players in the league make those back to back plays? Last year he was hurt but played through it.

No way we trade this guy. Just no way. Two firsts? Nowhere near enough, especially since they aren’t top five picks from any team.

No. Just no.

The thing is, maybe the shoulders are bad enough that the Eagles don't think they ever get that version of Carter again.

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

The Raiders are a team I could see being heavily interested in Jalen Carter. That is a franchise/team who has been a cellar dweller for years in desperate need of some talent and excitement injected into their franchise. They now have a surplus of assets having just trade Crosby for two first round picks. Carter also just seems to fit the Raiders with his swagger and let's be honest at times dirty play. For the Eagles trading him there allows them to send to the AFC and again they have the surplus of high end draft picks to move.

Raiders of that list are the ones I’d want to deal with the most. If I’m forced to make the deal with JC, try to get ravens 2026 1st and the raiders 2027 1st along with someone like Charles grant (who the reports last draft period they really liked) and maybe include mayers.

I'm okay with a Jalen Carter trade. The return would obviously have to be excellent, but he's a guy I'd be afraid to give a massive contract to. Discipline, shoulder injuries, etc.