7 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Trying to listen to a PHLY Eagles podcast for the first time in around a month and wtf is this trash? They are doing atulid accents the whole pod? It is unlistenable.

I was going to post about this and then I forgot. I was going to say that they have 100% officially jumped the shark by doing that. There is no question that the show took a major downward spiral when Zach left which was bad enough, but then replacing him with a moron like EJ Smith. He is pretty much impossible to listen to. All he does is laugh about everything and somehow manage to go on few minute tangents about stuff that has nothing to do with football while he attempts to talk about football. The other day they did an entire segment on EJ favorite guitarists. It's really a shame what has happened to that pod.

6 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

In a vacuum im annoyed to trade for Dalton.

In reality, Im hopeful and excited about a potential return for McKee.

If they aren't planning to trade McKee it is yet another stupid ass move from Howie this off-season. I don't care if it's "only a 7th round pick," trading any capital for a 3rd string QB when you can just go out and sign someone right now is dumb. Not only that, he has a cap hit of 4 million. They won't even invest 2-3 million in a safety like Epps but they will pay 4 million or a 3rd QB? Howie is now on back to back off-seasons which was bad and so far extremely questionable. Just an utterly pointless stupid move.

6 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The Howell trade was the result of circumstances they found themselves in.  McKee injured and unable to dress heading into the opener.  If they were keeping McKee it would make more sense to take a shot on a developmental guy in the draft.

Trading for Dalton now seems to signal that McKee will be on the move at some point prior to the draft 

Let's hope so because if Howie just felt the need to give up a pick (7th or not) and take on a 4 million cap hit for a 3rd string QB when they can just go out and sign someone it is yet another stupid and pointless move by him.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No need for Epenesa, we've got 50 year old BG on speed dial for when Howie is unable to adequately address the massive hole at edge rusher. Sure would have been nice to have this guy who brings size and run support with the three small speed rusher we have. But hey, why spend "up to 5 million" to address an actual need when you can trade a draft pick and spend 4 million for a 38 year old third string QB. Howie just might have lost his mojo.

3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im not mad about Epenesa, but I WAS thinking that itd be nice to see another edge depth signing while we are sitting on all of this money and there was still a little talent out there.

Why would Howie actually address areas of need like edge rusher and safety when he can trade for a 38 year old 3rd string QB making 4 million.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

No need for Epenesa, we've got 50 year old BG on speed dial for when Howie is unable to adequately address the massive hole at edge rusher. Sure would have been nice to have this guy who brings size and run support with the three small speed rusher we have. But hey, why spend "up to 5 million" to address an actual need when you can trade a draft pick and spend 4 million for a 38 year old third string QB. Howie just might have lost his mojo.

I was just complimenting him on the Hollywood signing right before this trade happened. This is a head scratcher for a 38 yr old. He always over trades for 3rd stringers who usually are irrelevant in the end. I would just wait it out for a 3rd string QB til someone cuts someone. Ironically, Dalton is 4-0 lifetime against the Eagles. Totally agree with you on him not adding a safety thus far who were good values at $5-6 million.

So I’m guessing Dalton and McKee split snaps while Hurts moves to a hybrid RB/TE/H-back role. Should be a fun time

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I was just complimenting him on the Hollywood signing right before this trade happened. This is a head scratcher for a 38 yr old. He always over trades for 3rd stringers who usually are irrelevant in the end. I would just wait it out for a 3rd string QB til someone cuts someone. Ironically, Dalton is 4-0 lifetime against the Eagles. Totally agree with you on him not adding a safety thus far who were good values at $5-6 million.

I couldn't agree more. I really liked the Hollywood Brown signing and then Howie turns around the next day and gives up a draft pick and invests 4 million into a 38 year old 3rd string QB. Meanwhile there are still massive needs at edge rusher and Safety that he continues to ignore. Anyone who isn't at least slightly concerned after last off-season and the first week and a half of this off-season is fooling themselves. I would love to hear someone try to justify the logic in trading a pick and investing 4 million in a 3rd string QB when he won't even spend 5 million for a starting safety.

17 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

If they aren't planning to trade McKee it is yet another stupid ass move from Howie this off-season. I don't care if it's "only a 7th round pick," trading any capital for a 3rd string QB when you can just go out and sign someone right now is dumb. Not only that, he has a cap hit of 4 million. They won't even invest 2-3 million in a safety like Epps but they will pay 4 million or a 3rd QB? Howie is now on back to back off-seasons which was bad and so far extremely questionable. Just an utterly pointless stupid move.

I don’t think it’s completely unlikely that a team desperate for a backup QB sends a 6th for Dalton in the middle of or the end of camp.

And you know they love having depth at QB. The move is far from "dumb”

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think it’s completely unlikely that a team desperate for a backup QB sends a 6th for Dalton in the middle of or the end of camp.

And you know they love having depth at QB. The move is far from "dumb”

No, it's completely dumb. They gave up an asset and invested 4 million in a 3rd string QB when they have actual needs that need to be addressed. If Howie was that worried about having a better 3rd string QB he could kept the pick and saved money by just signing someone for 2-3 million. Screw a number 1 edge rusher, starting safety, 3rd safety, and some much needed OL depth, we have a really good 3rd string QB who will likely never suit up.

59 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

One game he'll never forget lol. Thats a stretch to read anything into that

Guy played in two Super Bowls here but the one he will never forget is a Patriots Super Bowl.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Guy played in two Super Bowls here but the one he will never forget is a Patriots Super Bowl.

He doesn't want to be traded. Stop making things up and repeating fake news by the media.

6 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

No, it's completely dumb. They gave up an asset and invested 4 million in a 3rd string QB when they have actual needs that need to be addressed. If Howie was that worried about having a better 3rd string QB he could kept the pick and saved money by just signing someone for 2-3 million. Screw a number 1 edge rusher, starting safety, 3rd safety, and some much needed OL depth, we have a really good 3rd string QB who will likely never suit up.

I don’t think that 7th round pick would be the answer to either of those needs

Howie has something up his sleeve and he will make his move. If the board doesnt break his way, I could totally see him trading that 1st pick for player like Crosby. He wants to win and knows how to. He has plenty of ammunition to move around for the players he wants after that.

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Guy played in two Super Bowls here but the one he will never forget is a Patriots Super Bowl.

Maybe he was thinking of games he watched a ki and not games he played in, duh

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think that 7th round pick would be the answer to either of those needs

Completely irrelevant. He gave up an asset when he didn't have to. Also, while unlikely you just never know: Jordan Mailata and Moro Ojomo were 7th round picks for this team. In a vacuum it was a borderline pointless move. Considering the multiple holes they have elsewhere it was completely pointless.

8 hours ago, Iggles25 said:

23) Ioane

54) Howell

68) Delp

98) Kilgore

Recent PFSN mock draft sim.

Would be elated with this.

good but no thanks on Howell - 30 inch arms and somewhat undersized. I'd rather have TJ Parker

A 7th round pick in a year is basically nothing, there is no need to debate this. So they trade back a few spot in the 6th round this year to get it back, who gives a F….

It’s the $ that’s worth the debate. I tend to think having 3 startable QBs is a huge deal, so I like it regardless of what they do with McKee.

52 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

A 7th round pick in a year is basically nothing, there is no need to debate this. So they trade back a few spot in the 6th round this year to get it back, who gives a F….

It’s the $ that’s worth the debate. I tend to think having 3 startable QBs is a huge deal, so I like it regardless of what they do with McKee.

McKee is a very solid backup QB who could win them a few games if Hurts goes down and he isn't playing with backups vs a starting defense. Those potential wins are worth more than a 3rd or 4th. Let the guy walk next year and get comp picks vs having AD have to start.

Would I rather Howie signed a starting safety with AD's money? Yeah, but whatever. Hopefully, he cares about swing tackle as much because there is a much greater chance of the swing T starting games than QB3.

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

A 7th round pick in a year is basically nothing, there is no need to debate this. So they trade back a few spot in the 6th round this year to get it back, who gives a F….

It’s the $ that’s worth the debate. I tend to think having 3 startable QBs is a huge deal, so I like it regardless of what they do with McKee.

Jordan Mailata and Moro Ojomo were 7th round picks. There are plenty of veteran backup QB's who are as good or better than Dalton who they could have just signed without giving up the pick (Russell Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Jimmy G, Joe Flacco) if they were so hell bent on having two legit backup QB's. It's also just the optics of the fact that they have so many needs they have yet to fill and they are putting focus into trading for a 3rd QB.

Just now, T-1000 said:

Jordan Mailata and Moro Ojomo were 7th round picks. There are plenty of veteran backup QB's who are as good or better than Dalton who they could have just signed without giving up the pick (Russell Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Jimmy G, Joe Flacco) if they were so hell bent on having two legit backup QB's. It's also just the optics of the fact that they have so many needs they have yet to fill and they are putting focus into trading for a 3rd QB.

I always thought tyrod Taylor would be a good fit here. No worse than Howell or Dalton

7 hours ago, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

good but no thanks on Howell - 30 inch arms and somewhat undersized. I'd rather have TJ Parker

At 54 I think that’s a pretty good deal - Howell might have a bright future as a DPR which is essentially what we need with Nolan/Jalyx playing on early downs/neutral situations. Conversely, I kind of liked Epenesa or a bigger DE prospect for when need to go heavy or kicked-in for nascar (e.g., Jacas).