20 hours ago, eglz1 said:

I get those free on the Roku channel I believe. It's on the home screen but I'm not sure how it got there. Yeah they're fun but I haven't see any Eagles games though. I don't watch it that much - maybe an hour a day. It seems like it started out with 2025 games but lately I've seen games from 2022 and earlier.

Well amend that. Super Bowl LIX was on last night.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

I still think, after June 1, if New England offers its 2027 1st, he's gone. Otherwise, he's here.

1st and 2nd/3rd I think Howie probably does it. I don't know if he does for just a 2027 1st. Especially if they don't end up drafting a WR. Because to go into next season with this current group minus Brown is very close to punting on next season. That WR group isn't getting you to the playoffs.

5 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Well amend that. Super Bowl LIX was on last night.

Haha, there’s a difference between nfl network and nfl channel. NFL network seems to air more of the classics that I’m looking for, with in depth commentary etc. Both are good though, draft can’t get here quick enough lol

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

1st and 2nd/3rd I think Howie probably does it. I don't know if he does for just a 2027 1st. Especially if they don't end up drafting a WR. Because to go into next season with this current group minus Brown is very close to punting on next season. That WR group isn't getting you to the playoffs.

Yeah, I meant the gating item is a 2027 1st. It's clear Howie doesn't want pick 31 in this draft, even if it were offered. I'd also bet on regression from the Patriots. If it's true AJ gave them s list of 4 teams - KC, BUF, LAC and NE - only NE really remains. So if they won't offer the 2027 1st (and the NE writers/bloggers seem to think they won't), I don't see Howie moving him just to move him. That 1st has to be involved.

Will be interesting to see what AJ does during OTAs. I think he skipped some of them last year.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, I meant the gating item is a 2027 1st. It's clear Howie doesn't want pick 31 in this draft, even if it were offered. I'd also bet on regression from the Patriots. If it's true AJ gave them s list of 4 teams - KC, BUF, LAC and NE - only NE really remains. So if they won't offer the 2027 1st (and the NE writers/bloggers seem to think they won't), I don't see Howie moving him just to move him. That 1st has to be involved.

Will be interesting to see what AJ does during OTAs. I think he skipped some of them last year.

This is why I've never felt he will be traded. I think Howie would be open to it. I just don't think the situations with the Eagles line up with other teams. For the Eagles it makes a lot more sense to do it starting in June. For other teams that doesn't make a lot of sense. Teams are going to be coming off their drafts, are going to want to see what their draft picks do first before they make a big trade for a WR and are going to want to see where they stand next season before they trade away their 2027 1sts. It's why star players very rarely get traded after the draft. I can't even think of the last time that happened. Once the draft is over, it usually takes until the trade deadline once every team can get a feel of how good or bad they are and what caliber of picks they'll be giving up.

The one exception here is if the Patriots don't end up drafting a WR early and the Eagles do, I could see the Patriots panicking and caving in June. But short of that, especially if the Patriots draft a WR and the Eagles don't, I don't think a post draft trade makes a whole lot of sense.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

This is why I've never felt he will be traded. I think Howie would be open to it. I just don't think the situations with the Eagles line up with other teams. For the Eagles it makes a lot more sense to do it starting in June. For other teams that doesn't make a lot of sense. Teams are going to be coming off their drafts, are going to want to see what their draft picks do first before they make a big trade for a WR and are going to want to see where they stand next season before they trade away their 2027 1sts. It's why star players very rarely get traded after the draft. I can't even think of the last time that happened. Once the draft is over, it usually takes until the trade deadline once every team can get a feel of how good or bad they are and what caliber of picks they'll be giving up.

The one exception here is if the Patriots don't end up drafting a WR early and the Eagles do, I could see the Patriots panicking and caving in June. But short of that, especially if the Patriots draft a WR and the Eagles don't, I don't think a post draft trade makes a whole lot of sense.

Yeah, I want to see who the Pats draft (and do we draft a WR high). The other window would be if someone gets hurt in camp.

The ball is in AJ's court now. Is he willing to be more publicly disruptive in order to try and force a trade? We haven't seen that yet, but doesn't mean it won't happen.

22 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

League is offering a 6.45% ANNUAL increase to the refs and want to do away with seniority as a decider in playoffs, more accountability and the refs don’t want any merit to go into decisions or accountability and a 10% raise. That’s nuts. Other than promotions, I can count the number of times I saw an increase anywhere near what is being offered on one hand.

Comparing NFL officials with basketball and baseball is crazy. With preseason in both sports, those refs work many more days that the refs in the NFL.

I think the 10% number is roughly the average growth in the salary cap per season over the last 4-5 years. The 6.45% increase is less than the increase in the cap over that same time frame. It is a high paying job and it should be a high paying job. I think the NFL should meet their salary demands vs. nickel and dime them on the total. There are 120 NFL referees. They make around $200,000 per season. I think the difference between the positions is less than a million dollars. It's negligible. It seems like a not a lot of money to fight about given the revenue and criticism the League will face if they use replacement refs. I agree with the NFL on accountability. I think if the NFL was serious about the accountability part of it, they would meet the salary demands.

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah, I want to see who the Pats draft (and do we draft a WR high). The other window would be if someone gets hurt in camp.

The ball is in AJ's court now. Is he willing to be more publicly disruptive in order to try and force a trade? We haven't seen that yet, but doesn't mean it won't happen.

I'm sure RTK will let us know every detail of Brown

14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This is why I've never felt he will be traded. I think Howie would be open to it. I just don't think the situations with the Eagles line up with other teams. For the Eagles it makes a lot more sense to do it starting in June. For other teams that doesn't make a lot of sense. Teams are going to be coming off their drafts, are going to want to see what their draft picks do first before they make a big trade for a WR and are going to want to see where they stand next season before they trade away their 2027 1sts. It's why star players very rarely get traded after the draft. I can't even think of the last time that happened. Once the draft is over, it usually takes until the trade deadline once every team can get a feel of how good or bad they are and what caliber of picks they'll be giving up.

The one exception here is if the Patriots don't end up drafting a WR early and the Eagles do, I could see the Patriots panicking and caving in June. But short of that, especially if the Patriots draft a WR and the Eagles don't, I don't think a post draft trade makes a whole lot of sense.

It’s happened a lot. Let’s start with Micah Parsons.

3 minutes ago, just relax said:

It’s happened a lot. Let’s start with Micah Parsons.

Forgot about Parsons, I think that is a bit different though given the Cowboys were not trying to trade him. They were trying to sign him all summer and eventually talks totally broke down, and then at that point finally put him on the market and started listening to offers. It's not like they had been talking to teams for 5 months and then finally got an offer suitable. This is a situation where the Eagles will have been talking to teams for months, so I don't see when they've already had conversations and the Eagles have established what they're demanding in a trade, why teams would finally cave after the draft. With the exception I mentioned - the Patriots not drafting a WR and the Eagles drafting one. I don't know of many others.

42 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I still think, after June 1, if New England offers its 2027 1st, he's gone. Otherwise, he's here.

People can believe what they want but DGunn isn't making a whole lot of sense here.

If the Eagles are not actively trying to move AJ Brown, then the national reporting by guys like Schefter and Rapoport that talks have been tabled until June 1st don't make sense. Setting a price and then setting a date to continue talking about the price is not just listening to any and every offer. I'm not saying Howie is calling all teams and is desperately trying to unload him, but it's clearly past that point of just listening now.

I believe AJ is genuinely liked on a personal level in the building. I believe AJ genuinely likes most on the team on a personal level. But I can still see both sides just thinking the relationship has run it's course and it's best to move on. Doesn't mean it needs to be a messy or ugly breakup. Just an amicable split where AJ gets what he wants, or what he thinks he wants, on field while the Eagles can shift his money owed over to the younger core players.

The "AJ wants to be in Philadelphia and has never said he wants to leave" makes no sense. Again, this isn't just ESP or WIP making up rumors. National guys like Albert Breer have said AJ gave a list of teams he wants to play for. His agent was at the combine gauging interest in a trade. Those are two things that aren't happening if Eagles are just listening to offers and the player is happy and doesn't want to be moved. Hollywood Brown has the same agent as AJ and already spilled the beans. He would love to play with AJ but it's a business and AJ has to do what's best for him. Again, that's not a response to someone who is happy to be here and doesn't want to leave.

I don't see AJ on the 2026 roster. Everyone's saying the right scripted things. Gotta know how to read between the lines. He's a goner! This has run its course. Eagles don't want to guarantee huge money past this year and AJ won't be a lame duck player on a team. That's the bottom line. Wouldn't surprise me if there's already a handshake agreement here.

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Forgot about Parsons, I think that is a bit different though given the Cowboys were not trying to trade him. They were trying to sign him all summer and eventually talks totally broke down, and then at that point finally put him on the market and started listening to offers. It's not like they had been talking to teams for 5 months and then finally got an offer suitable. This is a situation where the Eagles will have been talking to teams for months, so I don't see when they've already had conversations and the Eagles have established what they're demanding in a trade, why teams would finally cave after the draft. With the exception I mentioned - the Patriots not drafting a WR and the Eagles drafting one. I don't know of many others.

Khalil Mack and Christian McCaffrey also come to mind. Sam Bradford was another. I'm sure I'll think of more. Then there are the trades that happen during the season, such as Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Wiliams.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

People can believe what they want but DGunn isn't making a whole lot of sense here.

If the Eagles are not actively trying to move AJ Brown, then the national reporting by guys like Schefter and Rapoport that talks have been tabled until June 1st don't make sense. Setting a price and then setting a date to continue talking about the price is not just listening to any and every offer. I'm not saying Howie is calling all teams and is desperately trying to unload him, but it's clearly past that point of just listening now.

I believe AJ is genuinely liked on a personal level in the building. I believe AJ genuinely likes most on the team on a personal level. But I can still see both sides just thinking the relationship has run it's course and it's best to move on. Doesn't mean it needs to be a messy or ugly breakup. Just an amicable split where AJ gets what he wants, or what he thinks he wants, on field while the Eagles can shift his money owed over to the younger core players.

The "AJ wants to be in Philadelphia and has never said he wants to leave" makes no sense. Again, this isn't just ESP or WIP making up rumors. National guys like Albert Breer have said AJ gave a list of teams he wants to play for. His agent was at the combine gauging interest in a trade. Those are two things that aren't happening if Eagles are just listening to offers and the player is happy and doesn't want to be moved. Hollywood Brown has the same agent as AJ and already spilled the beans. He would love to play with AJ but it's a business and AJ has to do what's best for him. Again, that's not a response to someone who is happy to be here and doesn't want to leave.

There is a middle ground. That the Eagles know he'd prefer to be traded(but only to a handful of specific teams) and if the Eagles can get a very asking price they will do it, but otherwise they won't. I think this situation exists in that middle ground which is a big reason why nothing has happened yet. Howie doesn't want to move him, but is willing to do it if he gets his price... which is very high(and I don't think is going to come down). If a team matches that price, he'll do it, if not he won't. I also think Brown prefers to play in an offense that he thinks will maximize his talent, but also isn't in a mindset where he hates being here and just wants to be gone either.

Schefter's comments have kind of echoed Gunn's somewhat. Schefter has said "AJ Brown prefers to play elsewhere, the Eagles don't want to trade him though and only will if they get a very high asking price" and I think that's where they kind of are right now. No team has offered them what they want yet.

Is it draft day yet?

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Khalil Mack and Christian McCaffrey also come to mind. Sam Bradford was another. I'm sure I'll think of more. Then there are the trades that happen during the season, such as Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Wiliams.

Mack was September, McCaff was October. Bradford was before the season but wasn't a star and after an injury. All I said if they are rare, which they are. Doesn't mean they never happen or it's impossible, but they don't happen often and for the reasons I stated. After the draft teams usually like to see how their teams play before giving up premium picks. Of course there are exceptions.

I'd say it's pretty questionable to say AJ Brown is a star at this point of his career. People just want to dismiss last year for all kinds of excuses. He's an aging wide receiver with knee and hamstring issues and has lost a step and his hands were not the greatest last year. At times, he looked like Alshon Jeffery right before he went bad. Remember saying a couple years ago this guy will not age well.

37 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I am guessing that's because Howie had to agree to drop AJ off with the Patriots as part of the trade.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Mack was September, McCaff was October. Bradford was before the season but wasn't a star and after an injury. All I said if they are rare, which they are. Doesn't mean they never happen or it's impossible, but they don't happen often and for the reasons I stated. After the draft teams usually like to see how their teams play before giving up premium picks. Of course there are exceptions.

Oh, I agree. It's just that you said you couldn't think of any and it turned out I could. In AJ's case, there is a reason why he is more tradeable after June 1 and pretty much all post-June 1 trades have special reasons, such as injuries, hold-outs, and the like.

11 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Is it draft day yet?

6 out of 10 Howie's. I would have rated it 9 out of 10 but Ephesians Prysock is too New Testament for Howie.

Fans may not like this but I think the correct thing to do is sever ties with Stoutland, which sounds like the Eagles plan on doing. If you want to use him as some research project consultant he can do from home, that's fine. Or if he comes to a few games as an observer and says hi to a few players in the locker room, fine. But they should really avoid having him in an official role that requires him in the building. He is too beloved by the O-line guys that it would create a weird and unfair dynamic that Kuper would have to deal with while trying to teach all those guys a new blocking scheme.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I think the 10% number is roughly the average growth in the salary cap per season over the last 4-5 years. The 6.45% increase is less than the increase in the cap over that same time frame. It is a high paying job and it should be a high paying job. I think the NFL should meet their salary demands vs. nickel and dime them on the total. There are 120 NFL referees. They make around $200,000 per season. I think the difference between the positions is less than a million dollars. It's negligible. It seems like a not a lot of money to fight about given the revenue and criticism the League will face if they use replacement refs. I agree with the NFL on accountability. I think if the NFL was serious about the accountability part of it, they would meet the salary demands.

The NFL probably pays a million dollars for a lot of stupid stuff that doesn't come close to being as important as the refs.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Fans may not like this but I think the correct thing to do is sever ties with Stoutland, which sounds like the Eagles plan on doing. If you want to use him as some research project consultant he can do from home, that's fine. Or if he comes to a few games as an observer and says hi to a few players in the locker room, fine. But they should really avoid having him in an official role that requires him in the building. He is too beloved by the O-line guys that it would create a weird and unfair dynamic that Kuper would have to deal with while trying to teach all those guys a new blocking scheme.

If you keep him in house in some capacity it keeps him from Dallas or some other team is the only flip side to that

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If you keep him in house in some capacity it keeps him from Dallas or some other team is the only flip side to that

He's under contract so he's not going anywhere regardless this year. If he wants to coach O-line again somewhere else after his contract expires, there isn't anything you can do to stop him.