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Will be interesting to see if the offense experiment fails miserably this year if they just go back to Stout as OL coach. And/or if the OL sucks this year.

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2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I believe these guys get between $100K-$200K/season, which isn't bad for part-time work (given their all lawyers) - BUT it does require a fair amount of travel and the season does seem to be getting longer. If the league can introduce more accountability, relegate the the poor performers to Spring ball and out of the playoffs - that might be worth the $, given how much of it is thrown around the NFL. What's Rodger making these days $60M/yr... and he seems to specialize on making the product worse most of the time.

Also, it's a negotiation - I've dealt with municipal unions and without fail they send a delusional proposal over as a starting point... every single time.

Are you the NFLRA rep? lol $100k-$200k for 5 months of work is more than probably 70% of the country makes the entire year (not even counting their regular job salaries). They can cry about the free travel and wipe their tears with hundred dollar bills. I have no sympathy for people who are incredibly awful at their jobs and get paid a ton more than they deserve based on their performance

2 hours ago, just relax said:

So long as the refs are part-timers it will hardly matter what they’re paid. And are they really rejecting accountability? It is thankless work and it should be done by full-time professionals.

You won’t get any argument on the need for full time refs. That kind of refines my point that NBA and MLB officials are not comparable. However, if they are full time, then I expect them to be full time. In other words, those regular jobs go away, except maybe in the offseason. Maybe OTAs for refs with the ability to cut poor performers. The ability to bench them too.

But yes, the accountability summary the NFL suggests is fine with me. BTW, I hate the slow motion/still frame reviews that pop up on media and social media. Needs to be real time. If it can’t be observed real time then it really shouldn’t be a contested issue, because I prefer humans, including as officials in the game. I don’t expect perfection. So if post season spots go to the better referees of the season with no consideration towards seniority, I have no issue with that.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I think the 10% number is roughly the average growth in the salary cap per season over the last 4-5 years. The 6.45% increase is less than the increase in the cap over that same time frame. It is a high paying job and it should be a high paying job. I think the NFL should meet their salary demands vs. nickel and dime them on the total. There are 120 NFL referees. They make around $200,000 per season. I think the difference between the positions is less than a million dollars. It's negligible. It seems like a not a lot of money to fight about given the revenue and criticism the League will face if they use replacement refs. I agree with the NFL on accountability. I think if the NFL was serious about the accountability part of it, they would meet the salary demands.

A $200,000 job should be full time, as I responded to JR. I have always advocated full time refs.

Nick and Howie are real careful about what they say, but I thought his comments about Hollywood and Moore were interesting. How the come in and out of their breaks and create separation, pretty spot on to my criticism of Dotson.

Howie just signed a overdrafted player with no bend that is pretty much a bull rusher. Camp body most likely.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Howie just signed a overdrafted player with no bend that is pretty much a bull rusher. Camp body most likely.

Who?

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49 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

"A long time" =

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I guess they counted votes and decided they didn’t have enough.

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Who?

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Joe Tryon-Shoyinka

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Who?

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Joe Tyron-S (not learning how to spell his other last name unless he makes the team).

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Joe Tyron-S (not learning how to spell his other last name unless he makes the team).

Ah, I thought you meant someone newly signed today.

Another retirement or announcing one more year?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He's under contract so he's not going anywhere regardless this year. If he wants to coach O-line again somewhere else after his contract expires, there isn't anything you can do to stop him.

Howie should make him assistant GM.

Brandon Graham should flat out retire. Bring him in as a coach if you need him in the building. This is getting stupid, as he would steal a roster spot at this point. This Joe Tryon dude or someone like that can put up the same stats while having some upside.

50 minutes ago, devpool said:

Are you the NFLRA rep? lol $100k-$200k for 5 months of work is more than probably 70% of the country makes the entire year (not even counting their regular job salaries). They can cry about the free travel and wipe their tears with hundred dollar bills. I have no sympathy for people who are incredibly awful at their jobs and get paid a ton more than they deserve based on their performance

I'm capitalist so if the market is $200K so be it, you start messing with that dynamic and it's only a matter of time below the trash piles up and we're sitting in the dark.

Brandon Graham said at the end of the season he wants to play another year. He said at locker clean out he would like to play another year. He said on his podcast a month or two ago that he would like to play another year. If he is planning a news conference to just say he's playing another year, it's getting a bit ridiculous.

We don't need a press conference for everything.

It’s funny how the first Eagles and NFL app will say something like we signed a former first rounder to the dline to get you to click to see who instead of saying the name in the notification

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Brandon Graham said at the end of the season he wants to play another year. He said at locker clean out he would like to play another year. He said on his podcast a month or two ago that he would like to play another year. If he is planning a news conference to just say he's playing another year, it's getting a bit ridiculous.

He may be taking his talent to South Beach.

So after both Howie and Eliot Wolf's statements, I think this is where we stand with AJ. My best guess is he is traded after June 1, but I wouldn't wager on it.

AJ and his reps gave the Eagles a list, reportedly 4 teams (BUF, KC, NE and LAC), that AJ would like to be traded to. So it's not a full trade demand - just get me out of here. AJ has no interest in going to the Browns, for example. Of those 4, it appears NE is the only serious player. Conversations happened early in the league year, and we were too far apart on compensation. So both sides decided to kick the can and revisit after June 1, when the cap hit can be spread out. NE definitely hopes that Howie lowers his demands after June 1 when the cap issues are more manageable, and Howie likely hopes NE gets more desperate.

So there's basically 2 questions now:

  1. What does AJ do with OTAs and moving forward between now and June 1? I'd assume Howie has kept AJ's reps in the loop on any discussions, and so they know what's been offered and what Howie is asking for. So far, they haven't put on any public pressure to try and force Howie to take a lesser deal. Does that change after the draft, or during OTAs? If AJ were to go more public, the Eagles lose leverage.

  2. Will NE be willing to pay up when the pick is over 10 months away? Will Howie drop his asking price given the more manageable cap hit? I'd be surprised if Howie took any package without a 1st rounder unless AJ forces his hand (see above).

So, we're in this nether world. It's not a full trade demand. But does it become one if AJ gets impatient?

Oh, and then there's the whole getting an extension done with AJ part of it for the Pats if we agree on comp.

Would Brandon announce his own re-signing as a free agent ? Probably retirement right?

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