9 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

AJ Brown is so irreplaceable that when they started throwing to him more they lost more games. The offense stunk with him. In other words, this isn't close to prime AJ here and maybe falling off the cliff even more next year. Fortunately, we have a Number 1 who is even better and more clutch, in Devanta Smith to not miss a beat, once you get a solid WR2 or WR3 to complement Hollywood, who once was a Number 1 himself, in Baltimore. Hey, it's March 31st. I think Howie will figure this one out. Could be Boutte coming in.

This isn't remotely true and you're avoiding context.

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This isn't remotely true and you're avoiding context.

It is true.

3-3 in games AJ Brown had at least 10 targets.

7-2 in games that AJ Brown had under 10 targets.

12 hours ago, devpool said:

These refs think they're the only game in town. Replacement refs sucked, but honestly with another year of experience they would be no worse than the current refs. Their performance doesn't warrant a raise by any stretch of the imagination, and to reject any form accountability means they know how bad they are at their jobs and they don't care

I agree that there should be accountability and would as stakeholder/3rd party be willing to pay for that (indirectly), as it would likely improve the product.

Now I don't think IQs suddenly dropped amongst the referee ranks - the league has a problem creating new rules and convoluting the interpretation of old ones and this is magnified by instant replay, announcers who routinely fill dead air with their own armchair officiating and a sports culture that enjoys ****ing and moaning about why their team lost aside from the obvious. The refs can do better, but it's not an easy job and I don't think the old-timers from the 80s-90s would've done better today. It's a matter of taste, but I'd be happy if the league engaged in a campaign of de-emphasis and let the players play; however, given how well defenses performed last year I expect the opposite.

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nope.

Nobody with options would ever choose philly.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This isn't remotely true and you're avoiding context.

I know. There's a bunch of excuses here. Patullo, offensive line, Hurts, injuries, lack of motivation and focus, etc. I hope the Patriots believe all of that, so they give up a fortune here. Guy doesn't separate or even jump like before. Lost explosion, speed and athleticism. Everything is a contested catch at this point. Yeah. Let's blame everyone else. Couldn't take advantage of a slew of backups in Lions & 49ers games. Can't win a go route consistently. Projecting forward, I see a nice slot receiver, that's if he stays healthy. A BIG IF??? This is the time to cut bait, or you probably get very little next year. Take the high draft choice and run fast.

Agree with Kelce - the Lions are a loser organization

58 minutes ago, St0nedsk8er said:

What’s the scoop on Brandon ? Did he have his press conference or what ?

Not yet. He must not know what EST means.

so there was so little interest in BGs press conference that the media didnt even cover it.

Did the eagles even turn on the lights for him in the auditorium?

BG about to walk up on stage, sit at the podium and announce his return, but Howie was like hold on, we are about to trade for Greenard. Dont sign that contract!

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

It is true.

3-3 in games AJ Brown had at least 10 targets.

7-2 in games that AJ Brown had under 10 targets.

Smith

1-3 with at least 10 targets

10-4 with under 10 targets

34 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

AJ Brown is so irreplaceable that when they started throwing to him more they lost more games. The offense stunk with him. In other words, this isn't close to prime AJ here and maybe falling off the cliff even more next year. Fortunately, we have a Number 1 who is even better and more clutch, in Devanta Smith to not miss a beat, once you get a solid WR2 or WR3 to complement Hollywood, who once was a Number 1 himself, in Baltimore. Hey, it's March 31st. I think Howie will figure this one out. Could be Boutte coming in.

You should post how many drops AJ Brown had last season. I bet it would really help your argument.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Smith

1-3 with at least 10 targets

10-4 with under 10 targets

13 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

It is true.

3-3 in games AJ Brown had at least 10 targets.

7-2 in games that AJ Brown had under 10 targets.

so...winning more games when throwing less than 10x to the top 2 receivers...keep it under 10 targets to each of the top 2...SB every year.

56 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I agree trading AJ is a risk. Do you agree the Eagles could have a top 5 rushing offense without AJ?

I think they have a tough uphill battle to a top 5 rushing offense with or without AJ. My argument with keeping AJ is that they need every ounce of help they can get to bring a viable offense to the table next year.

I think we are looking at a worn down Barkley and league average or worse play from up to 4/5 of the OL next year plus likely fewer games from Goedert. That can’t be overcome with a new scheme and a pat on the back that we’ll be fine without the leading receiver from the last 4 years.

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

You should post how many drops AJ Brown had last season. I bet it would really help your argument.

I didn't check that. Only remember the ones against the 49ers in crunch time. 😁 Not always about drops. It's about tracking, about effort in getting to a ball. Or diving and laying out for one. Lot of close ones where you say, he could have gotten that one! Or he could have showed more fight for PI. There's an art to all of it.

7 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

so...winning more games when throwing less than 10x to the top 2 receivers...keep it under 10 targets to each of the top 2...SB every year.

Eagles should trade Brown AND Smith I guess.

Hollywood Brown, Elijiah Moore, Darius Cooper and Quez Watkins is enough to go undefeated.

18 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

You should post how many drops AJ Brown had last season. I bet it would really help your argument.

Credited with 5 drops on the year. 2 of them were blatant pass interferences not called.

55 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure I understand the argument. It's not a lot of money given the size of the industry. Refs could get 10 times what they currently get paid without it impacting the NFL's bottom line. A bad referee can and will have a dramatic impact on the game. A bad referee can cost teams and players in the 10's of millions of dollars. Refs are blamed more often by fans for losses rather than their team's bad play. If the NFL wanted more dedicated refs, they could cave on the salary demands in order to have more exacting standards.

The size of the industry is exactly why they get paid what they make. I see they're in a contract dispute now, but I still find the current salary/raises to be a lot of money for the amount of work/time involved. Anything more is just greed, imo. Also, refs aren't exactly the highlight of the sport. No one is tuning into an NFL game and saying, "I can't wait to see these refs make some calls today."

Compare NFL refs to MLB umps. NFL refs make almost the same (and in some cases, do) amount of money an ump does, while working around 20 games a season. Compare that to an ump that calls 100+ games. Even if we include all the stuff refs do throughout the week like film study, training, etc., they don't even do half the amount of work. I still don't see the need for them to make much more than what they do.

What's gonna change about the offense is the silly mentality (created by Sirianni) of passing the ball to only 2 people in most games. And being super predictable. The offense on just that account, will benefit. Can use a TE2 upgrade and WR2 upgrade and the ball will be spread out nicely. Also, will be giving Tank more of the workload at RB. Fred is now back as your blocking TE with Lane in the fold. Sorely missed in that role. I am assuming a couple more solid parts coming in here to complement this bunch. Hurts will be playing free and loose as well. His rapport with AJ was lacking for whatever reason. Stray jacket comes off from jump street this year in new offense. I expect Jalen to accept that challenge, almost like Embiid did without Simmons. Will play with a chip. Look forward to it. Less stagnant and more movement will be refreshing.

14 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Seven round mock on ESPN. It's like this dude tried to put together the worst possible draft for the Eagles he could. Max Klare is literally the only pick I like. I hate the Mesidor pick, waiting until their 4th pick to draft an offensive lineman is just flat out stupid, and Payton and Slaughter in the 4th are pointless picks.

1 - Akheem Mesidor - Edge

2 - Antonio Williams - WR

3a - Max Klare - TE

3b - Dametrious Crownover - OT

4a - Cole Payton - QB

4b - Jake Slaughter - C

5a - Michael Taaffee - S

5b - Dontay Corleone - DT

6 - Ceyair Wright - CB

Ugh. That's a horrible draft

37 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Agree with Kelce - the Lions are a loser organization

Wow - I understand that the policy going back to the 80s but I still think that's a dick move.

10 minutes ago, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

Ugh. That's a horrible draft

I like Klare and Taaffe, but these are compromises I accept so that we make some hay with the other premium picks - I'm not feeling 1, 2 or 3b.

51 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I know. There's a bunch of excuses here. Patullo, offensive line, Hurts, injuries, lack of motivation and focus, etc. I hope the Patriots believe all of that, so they give up a fortune here. Guy doesn't separate or even jump like before. Lost explosion, speed and athleticism. Everything is a contested catch at this point. Yeah. Let's blame everyone else. Couldn't take advantage of a slew of backups in Lions & 49ers games. Can't win a go route consistently. Projecting forward, I see a nice slot receiver, that's if he stays healthy. A BIG IF??? This is the time to cut bait, or you probably get very little next year. Take the high draft choice and run fast.

This isn't accurate his recorded top end speed this year was better than 2024. AJ Brown has never been a jitterbug WR who gets wide open. Even om 2023 and 2024. And it's not as easy to get a guy more open when they're only running curls and verticals. Nor is it prudent to have a fully formed opinion after one season. People thought Moss with the Raiders and Adams with the Jets were washed too.

Here's the thing with the Eagles passing offense...by yardage, they ranked 23rd in the NFL. Every single team that ranked behind them was a QB carousel all year. When you have a QB carousel, you aren't throwing much and you are basically in a dink and dunk survival mode.

I'm not using this as an opportunity to bash Hurts (although it is a noteworthy one). I'm just saying that this passing offense, amongst NFL offenses that actually had a quarterback and functioned as designed, was the least productive in the NFL. And if you then subtract the most productive receiving option in what is already the least productive passing offense with a stable QB situation in the entire NFL...it's pretty much a given that this will be one of the NFL's worst and least productive passing offenses again in 2026.

A 29 year old Barkley and this broken down OL aren't overcoming that.

Here's the issue that no one wants to acknowledge: this is no longer a talented offense. I don't think AJ Brown is anything special at this point in his career either. But I don't think they can afford to drain any more talent than age and injuries already have.