Lurie mentioned AI a couple of times in his presser, once in tandem with analytics. It’s coming and at some point the NFL may need to put rules around it but probably not before the Eagles take advantage. I have been retired for almost a decade, but we were building multilayered predictive models before then. Our AI was Watson at that point. With the inroads in artificial intelligence in that period, I think the possibilities are boundless.

Since berating Hurts (the favorite dead season thing for the Beats and the Blog) has been the topic here with focus on what he dislikes, imagine. Load up the film since he has been an Eagles into the data and have AI build a program for the plays and send him VOR and a suit that records the mechanics and placement. Then gradually feed in the new plays and work with him on processing information and speed. What does motion offer, how to feel play action etc. Hell, just thinking about that makes me wonder what it could do for my bowling or golf game.

Now think about Asante Samuel. Really a below average CB athlete, he prevailed through film study that meant he knew their tells better than the opposing players. Now apply that to all players. I suspect AI could spit out a film breakdown that spots tendencies for each position for the upcoming opponent. Each player gets a packet Monday morning.

Take it a step further. Coaches being handed a packet (electronically) on Monday morning. For the position coaches, it includes the packets the players got plus ones on what adjustments most favor the players. They and the game planners also get analysis of the opponents including tendencies and what their weak spots are.

I wonder if they are already using AI in evaluating draft prospects.

22 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I am secretly hoping for another Mahomes-Hurts Superbowl, where Hurts shreds him once again, which ends the glazing of Mahomes and cements Hurts into the Hall of Fame. Til then, we talk about Tanner Brady and his amazing potential.

That would be great, a huge amount of credit would go to Jalen and presumably to Siri, Mannion and the other assistants for reengineering this offense -or- maybe just for tinkering with the old winning formula, improving on the margins schematically while getting a dominant performance from the OL and timely contributions from the QB.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

People often say this.

Then point out that Allen & Burrow aren't winning because of their supporting cast. So...they need talent around them too.

Mahomes got owned by the Bucs & Eagles in the SB when his O line got dominated by the defensive line. He has a legendary HC, great DC and has hadca top TE in Kelce around him. When they've lost a WR, people said it would hurt him losing a good receiver.

Dak & Lamar have had great talent and won absolutely nothing.

Great QBs over the years have had great talent and coaches around them.

That's why I hate that particular argument against Hurts.

7 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Winner winner chicken dinner. There is no better example of how dumb people are than their love and obsession with Justin Herbert in context of the unfair scrutiny that Hurts gets. Hurts doesn't fit the mold and doesn't put up big fantasy numbers. Herbert is a 6'6 white boy with long flow locks and a rocket arm that can make every throw. He will shred a random defense in November for 350 yards and 4 TD's. Meanwhile, he has been in the league for SIX years and has ZERO playoff wins. Let me say that again, ZERO playoff wins. His weapons over the years have been Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Ladd McConkey, Quentin Johnston, Mike Williams, etc. John Harbaugh has been his coach for the last two seasons. Yet there is EVERY single excuse under the sun for why a 28 year old QB with six NFL seasons has ZERO playoff wins.

Meanwhile at 27 years old and with 5 seasons as a starter Hurts has 6 playoff wins, two SB appearances, one SB win, and one SB MVP but there is every excuse under the sun for why he deserves little to no credit for a lot of people. But hey, he doesn't slin it like Herbert on a Thursday night game in the middle of the season against the Raiders or some other trash team.

You FN nerds can have your fantasy god, 6'6 white boy with flowing locks QB who hasn't won a thing, I will take the guy who FN wins and continues to do it with everyone questioning him at every turn. The double standard is laughable and a lot of fans and media members in Philadelphia specifically don't deserve to have Hurts as QB1

@ T-1000 You used the term "white boy" twice in your post. Was it meant pejoratively? It sure seems like it.

8 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Winner winner chicken dinner. There is no better example of how dumb people are than their love and obsession with Justin Herbert in context of the unfair scrutiny that Hurts gets. Hurts doesn't fit the mold and doesn't put up big fantasy numbers. Herbert is a 6'6 white boy with long flow locks and a rocket arm that can make every throw. He will shred a random defense in November for 350 yards and 4 TD's. Meanwhile, he has been in the league for SIX years and has ZERO playoff wins. Let me say that again, ZERO playoff wins. His weapons over the years have been Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Ladd McConkey, Quentin Johnston, Mike Williams, etc. John Harbaugh has been his coach for the last two seasons. Yet there is EVERY single excuse under the sun for why a 28 year old QB with six NFL seasons has ZERO playoff wins.

Meanwhile at 27 years old and with 5 seasons as a starter Hurts has 6 playoff wins, two SB appearances, one SB win, and one SB MVP but there is every excuse under the sun for why he deserves little to no credit for a lot of people. But hey, he doesn't slin it like Herbert on a Thursday night game in the middle of the season against the Raiders or some other trash team.

You FN nerds can have your fantasy god, 6'6 white boy with flowing locks QB who hasn't won a thing, I will take the guy who FN wins and continues to do it with everyone questioning him at every turn. The double standard is laughable and a lot of fans and media members in Philadelphia specifically don't deserve to have Hurts as QB1

That would be Jim Harbaugh.

6 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Lurie mentioned AI a couple of times in his presser, once in tandem with analytics. It’s coming and at some point the NFL may need to put rules around it but probably not before the Eagles take advantage. I have been retired for almost a decade, but we were building multilayered predictive models before then. Our AI was Watson at that point. With the inroads in artificial intelligence in that period, I think the possibilities are boundless.

Since berating Hurts (the favorite dead season thing for the Beats and the Blog) has been the topic here with focus on what he dislikes, imagine. Load up the film since he has been an Eagles into the data and have AI build a program for the plays and send him VOR and a suit that records the mechanics and placement. Then gradually feed in the new plays and work with him on processing information and speed. What does motion offer, how to feel play action etc. Hell, just thinking about that makes me wonder what it could do for my bowling or golf game.

Now think about Asante Samuel. Really a below average CB athlete, he prevailed through film study that meant he knew their tells better than the opposing players. Now apply that to all players. I suspect AI could spit out a film breakdown that spots tendencies for each position for the upcoming opponent. Each player gets a packet Monday morning.

Take it a step further. Coaches being handed a packet (electronically) on Monday morning. For the position coaches, it includes the packets the players got plus ones on what adjustments most favor the players. They and the game planners also get analysis of the opponents including tendencies and what their weak spots are.

I wonder if they are already using AI in evaluating draft prospects.

I'm sure they are using AI to evaluate prospects.

Check out Sumer Sports.

They're like PFF on AI steroids.

9 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Winner winner chicken dinner. There is no better example of how dumb people are than their love and obsession with Justin Herbert in context of the unfair scrutiny that Hurts gets. Hurts doesn't fit the mold and doesn't put up big fantasy numbers. Herbert is a 6'6 white boy with long flow locks and a rocket arm that can make every throw. He will shred a random defense in November for 350 yards and 4 TD's. Meanwhile, he has been in the league for SIX years and has ZERO playoff wins. Let me say that again, ZERO playoff wins. His weapons over the years have been Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Ladd McConkey, Quentin Johnston, Mike Williams, etc. John Harbaugh has been his coach for the last two seasons. Yet there is EVERY single excuse under the sun for why a 28 year old QB with six NFL seasons has ZERO playoff wins.

Meanwhile at 27 years old and with 5 seasons as a starter Hurts has 6 playoff wins, two SB appearances, one SB win, and one SB MVP but there is every excuse under the sun for why he deserves little to no credit for a lot of people. But hey, he doesn't slin it like Herbert on a Thursday night game in the middle of the season against the Raiders or some other trash team.

You FN nerds can have your fantasy god, 6'6 white boy with flowing locks QB who hasn't won a thing, I will take the guy who FN wins and continues to do it with everyone questioning him at every turn. The double standard is laughable and a lot of fans and media members in Philadelphia specifically don't deserve to have Hurts as QB1

And (I can't believe I'm agreeing with you) we don't even need to go that far back in Eagles lore, let's not forget McNabb and Reid.....these two won games, put up numbers AND CONSTANTLY CHOKED IN THE BIGGEST GAMES.

7 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Lurie mentioned AI a couple of times in his presser, once in tandem with analytics. It’s coming and at some point the NFL may need to put rules around it but probably not before the Eagles take advantage. I have been retired for almost a decade, but we were building multilayered predictive models before then. Our AI was Watson at that point. With the inroads in artificial intelligence in that period, I think the possibilities are boundless.

Since berating Hurts (the favorite dead season thing for the Beats and the Blog) has been the topic here with focus on what he dislikes, imagine. Load up the film since he has been an Eagles into the data and have AI build a program for the plays and send him VOR and a suit that records the mechanics and placement. Then gradually feed in the new plays and work with him on processing information and speed. What does motion offer, how to feel play action etc. Hell, just thinking about that makes me wonder what it could do for my bowling or golf game.

Now think about Asante Samuel. Really a below average CB athlete, he prevailed through film study that meant he knew their tells better than the opposing players. Now apply that to all players. I suspect AI could spit out a film breakdown that spots tendencies for each position for the upcoming opponent. Each player gets a packet Monday morning.

Take it a step further. Coaches being handed a packet (electronically) on Monday morning. For the position coaches, it includes the packets the players got plus ones on what adjustments most favor the players. They and the game planners also get analysis of the opponents including tendencies and what their weak spots are.

I wonder if they are already using AI in evaluating draft prospects.

Isn't there like, already a commercial out talking about doing this?

18 hours ago, devpool said:

Right, but the point was if Howie continues to build a great team you don't need Hurts which is why I brought ul the seahawks. If you can build a team with a great defense, you don't need an expensive QB.

I'm of the belief that last year was 90% patullo, 5% OL health, 5% Hurts regression. I doubt Mannion is some amazing OC but I am confident that his supporting cast (at least Grizzard) will be able to help. Patullo, who sucked and never called plays, only had sirianni who also sucks at playcalling and design. That said, if the offense sucks again this year Hurts should not get another contract here.

I’d put way more on the oline health

8 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I’d put way more on the oline health

Yeah, the OL was a problem - Hurts and KP weren’t the solution.

So called Hurts defenders are more obsessed with Herbert than the so called Hurts haters

16 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I’d put way more on the oline health

Oline health was a problem. But the OC bears most of the blame for last season and beyond. Loss of Stoutland is a big one. AJ being unhappy with the plays and his records, Hurts was unhappy with his ... Nick put the OC in place should also bear some responsibility.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'm sure they are using AI to evaluate prospects.

Check out Sumer Sports.

They're like PFF on AI steroids.

dude... thanks for recommending Sumer Sports, just checked it out. I know what I'm doing all weekend now, lol.

Nobody new discussed here, but Jeremiah and Brooks talking about a bunch of day 2 guys.

8 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Lurie mentioned AI a couple of times in his presser, once in tandem with analytics. It’s coming and at some point the NFL may need to put rules around it but probably not before the Eagles take advantage. I have been retired for almost a decade, but we were building multilayered predictive models before then. Our AI was Watson at that point. With the inroads in artificial intelligence in that period, I think the possibilities are boundless.

Since berating Hurts (the favorite dead season thing for the Beats and the Blog) has been the topic here with focus on what he dislikes, imagine. Load up the film since he has been an Eagles into the data and have AI build a program for the plays and send him VOR and a suit that records the mechanics and placement. Then gradually feed in the new plays and work with him on processing information and speed. What does motion offer, how to feel play action etc. Hell, just thinking about that makes me wonder what it could do for my bowling or golf game.

Now think about Asante Samuel. Really a below average CB athlete, he prevailed through film study that meant he knew their tells better than the opposing players. Now apply that to all players. I suspect AI could spit out a film breakdown that spots tendencies for each position for the upcoming opponent. Each player gets a packet Monday morning.

Take it a step further. Coaches being handed a packet (electronically) on Monday morning. For the position coaches, it includes the packets the players got plus ones on what adjustments most favor the players. They and the game planners also get analysis of the opponents including tendencies and what their weak spots are.

I wonder if they are already using AI in evaluating draft prospects.

We are less than a year from the average blog member being able to do that on their cell phone. Would be almost impossible for the NFL to regulate.

9 hours ago, devpool said:

Joe Burrow has one of the worst defenses in the league, which i believe is partly his problem because he wanted chase and Higgins to get paid

Put Burrow on the Eagles

Are we better? Obviously

20 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Put Burrow on the Eagles

Are we better? Obviously

Joe would be happy to have our OL from last year (!). While we’ve become accustomed to elite line play here and didn’t get it last season - for the most part the pass protection was really good.

10 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Winner winner chicken dinner. There is no better example of how dumb people are than their love and obsession with Justin Herbert in context of the unfair scrutiny that Hurts gets. Hurts doesn't fit the mold and doesn't put up big fantasy numbers. Herbert is a 6'6 white boy with long flow locks and a rocket arm that can make every throw. He will shred a random defense in November for 350 yards and 4 TD's. Meanwhile, he has been in the league for SIX years and has ZERO playoff wins. Let me say that again, ZERO playoff wins. His weapons over the years have been Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Ladd McConkey, Quentin Johnston, Mike Williams, etc. John Harbaugh has been his coach for the last two seasons. Yet there is EVERY single excuse under the sun for why a 28 year old QB with six NFL seasons has ZERO playoff wins.

Meanwhile at 27 years old and with 5 seasons as a starter Hurts has 6 playoff wins, two SB appearances, one SB win, and one SB MVP but there is every excuse under the sun for why he deserves little to no credit for a lot of people. But hey, he doesn't slin it like Herbert on a Thursday night game in the middle of the season against the Raiders or some other trash team.

You FN nerds can have your fantasy god, 6'6 white boy with flowing locks QB who hasn't won a thing, I will take the guy who FN wins and continues to do it with everyone questioning him at every turn. The double standard is laughable and a lot of fans and media members in Philadelphia specifically don't deserve to have Hurts as QB1

A good OL, strong organization, and the GM constructing a complete team is a benefit JH has never had. Matt put up big numbers in Detroit but never won much in the playoffs that I can remember but has had success with the Rams. Maybe JH is similar or maybe he is overrated and won't ever win. I remember watching him in college vs a good Utah defense and he was gritty leading them to a win.

I'm not a big fan of Hurts but we could do worse.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

A good OL, strong organization, and the GM constructing a complete team is a benefit JH has never had. Matt put up big numbers in Detroit but never won much in the playoffs that I can remember but has had success with the Rams. Maybe JH is similar or maybe he is overrated and won't ever win. I remember watching him in college vs a good Utah defense and he was gritty leading them to a win.

I'm not a big fan of Hurts but we could do worse.

With Alt and Slater healthy, and another offseason of Harbaugh building the roster I expect the Chargers to be much better this year - perhaps another crossroads.

Go Birds

Sorry - longer segment - something that ESPN did that's actually worth sharing. Bonus points that Madden is a big Eagles fan

Carry on with your daily Jalen Hurts queef fest now

15 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

That was cute how he said "i do like you" and didn't list his dad while you're seeing him begging

Greatest agent ever lol

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

That was cute how he said "i do like you" and didn't list his dad while you're seeing him begging

Apparently Madden is one of three triplets - he only loves one of his brothers