May 16May 16 Howie has all the leverage. Supply and Demand. We have what they want and really no other options for the Pats. Howie asking price was fair in the ball park compared to the comp trades. Pay the price or we keep him. We win either way.
May 17May 17 17 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:Howie has all the leverage. Supply and Demand. We have what they want and really no other options for the Pats.Howie asking price was fair in the ball park compared to the comp trades.Pay the price or we keep him. We win either way.I doubt we win by keeping him. His value is only going to go down from here on out, unless he plays lights out this year. Given his effort last year, that happening is questionable at best.
May 18May 18 On 5/17/2026 at 9:05 AM, Mortimer said:I doubt we win by keeping him. His value is only going to go down from here on out, unless he plays lights out this year. Given his effort last year, that happening is questionable at best.The hope would be if he stays is that he's willing to put full effort into an offense led by Mannion. He certainly didn't with Patullo as OC.
May 18May 18 On 5/16/2026 at 3:47 PM, DeathByEagle said:Pay the price or we keep him. We win either wayIs keeping a discontented player who didn't really put out during a playoff game a win?
May 18May 18 49 minutes ago, eglz1 said:The hope would be if he stays is that he's willing to put full effortHope is not a strategy.
May 18May 18 On 5/16/2026 at 11:55 AM, time2rock said:Not sure of the source of this, but interesting to note that another team has (potentially) entered the room.I would be highly disappointed if Howie doesn’t get at least a 2027 first for AJ, especially considering what the Dolphins got for Waddle. Brown needs to go, but even in a low volume passing offense he’s been on course for 1500 yards most years. He’s entering his 29 season. Hopefully Howie has a few offers and can convert it into a great package in what should be a strong draft.
May 18May 18 2 hours ago, Rob331 said:Is keeping a discontented player who didn't really put out during a playoff game a win?You could ask the same question for Hurts, just instead of "discontented player" replace with "substandard player". Both are no, but Brown at least has shown more talent then Hurts has in the last 3 years (excluding one SB game that I do give Hurts credit for playing well in)
May 18May 18 1 hour ago, ManchesterEagle said:I would be highly disappointed if Howie doesn’t get at least a 2027 first for AJ, especially considering what the Dolphins got for Waddle.Brown needs to go, but even in a low volume passing offense he’s been on course for 1500 yards most years. He’s entering his 29 season. Hopefully Howie has a few offers and can convert it into a great package in what should be a strong draft.And this is why his market value is lower. The two situations simply aren't comparable. Unless Howie waits for someone to get hurt and a team is in need the market is mostly cool for him at this point. He's getting dealt regardless.I'll always remember him for his 3 for 35 against SF at home, yelling at the coach, going down with a whimper with short arms, and general lack of interest in winning a home playoff game. A 2nd? Sure. A 3rd? Ok. Whatever. Good riddance. 🤌
May 18May 18 Howie has no leverage whatsoever. Brown wants out, they want him gone. They just drafted a WR in the first round, a receiving TE in round 2, and trade for Wicks and signed Hollywood. There is only one team who wants Brown. You guys act like he isn't 29 coming off of a down year. Howie will be lucky to get a first round pick without including a 3rd or 4th back. All of this stuff about getting a first, plus, is pie in the sky, even for Howie. I get it too because I used to think we were getting a 3rd next year and a 1st in 2028 but it just isn't realistic.
May 18May 18 4 hours ago, eglz1 said:The hope would be if he stays is that he's willing to put full effort into an offense led by Mannion. He certainly didn't with Patullo as OC.It wasn't all season
May 18May 18 2 hours ago, MR-CYN said:And this is why his market value is lower. The two situations simply aren't comparable. Unless Howie waits for someone to get hurt and a team is in need the market is mostly cool for him at this point. He's getting dealt regardless.I'll always remember him for his 3 for 35 against SF at home, yelling at the coach, going down with a whimper with short arms, and general lack of interest in winning a home playoff game. A 2nd? Sure. A 3rd? Ok. Whatever. Good riddance. 🤌2 hours ago, T-1000 said:Howie has no leverage whatsoever. Brown wants out, they want him gone. They just drafted a WR in the first round, a receiving TE in round 2, and trade for Wicks and signed Hollywood. There is only one team who wants Brown. You guys act like he isn't 29 coming off of a down year. Howie will be lucky to get a first round pick without including a 3rd or 4th back. All of this stuff about getting a first, plus, is pie in the sky, even for Howie. I get it too because I used to think we were getting a 3rd next year and a 1st in 2028 but it just isn't realistic.How do you know there is only one team that wants Brown?And in any event if may be that negotiations have already happened and the price has been agreed.He’s better than Waddle and we should get at least a first.
May 19May 19 Author 12 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:How do you know there is only one team that wants Brown?And in any event if may be that negotiations have already happened and the price has been agreed.He’s better than Waddle and we should get at least a first.Exactly on both points. I think people like to assume the worst that way if we get less in return it somehow mitigates the disappointment. I just hope Howie swings the best deal possible and isn’t willing to accept slightly less just to accommodate a request from AJ as a show of appreciation and respect for what he has helped us accomplish. I want at least a 1st and want it in 2027 which is supposed to be a strong draft class.
May 19May 19 18 minutes ago, time2rock said:Exactly on both points. I think people like to assume the worst that way if we get less in return it somehow mitigates the disappointment. I just hope Howie swings the best deal possible and isn’t willing to accept slightly less just to accommodate a request from AJ as a show of appreciation and respect for what he has helped us accomplish. I want at least a 1st and want it in 2027 which is supposed to be a strong draft class.
May 19May 19 14 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:How do you know there is only one team that wants Brown?And in any event if may be that negotiations have already happened and the price has been agreed.He’s better than Waddle and we should get at least a first.Where did I say only one team was interested? If the market was red hot for him he'd be gone. At least we've gone from "he's not going anywhere" "he's too valuable" to realizing he's gone now and is already replaced. This is called the acceptance phase.Eagle's fans like to think the rest of the league is pining to give away all their first rounders to the Eagles for players on the decline. Brown was worth a 1st four years ago when the Eagles acquired him in 2022 at the age of 25 for one, and then ran him into the ground for 4 years. Nobody in their right mind is giving up a first rounder for him. Howie will be lucky to get a second without anything back the other way for a 29 year old declining WR with a history of me first personality problems and a chronic knee.Waddle, Waddle, Waddle. There was a market for Waddle. He was traded for his value. People need to stop comparing Brown to Waddle. Waddle got traded while Brown sits waiting for a trade partner. There's no comparison in situations. Brown will be traded for his worth. Unfortunately it won't be as much. I personally couldn't care less what Howie gets for him. He just needs to go. Notice how Hurts has never said a single word in Brown's defense? Good riddance.
May 19May 19 23 hours ago, Rob331 said:Is keeping a discontented player who didn't really put out during a playoff game a win?When you think about either AJ didn't give a full effort in a playoff game, because he was being disgruntled or he might be starting to slip a bit. In either case bringing that guy back just seems like a poor decision to make. I have expected Brown to be gone pretty much once that game was over, but I also expected Howie to do what is best by the Eagles and giving AJ away while taking a 40 million dollar cap hit wasn't it. I fully expect Brown to be gone post June 1st.
May 19May 19 On 3/14/2026 at 8:20 PM, Eagleblood52 said:It’s crazy how fast eagle fans turn their backs on an extremely talented player…was he upset last year…yup….all of us were frustrated with the offense…AJ wasn’t the problem, even with him coming out with the frustrations…did he have some drops, yup, sucked, but, he is the type that will come back and work his ass off and get better, clean it up if you will…He isn’t TO…He hasn’t been a distraction for those who remember TO (who I sided with)But AJ is a class guy who just wants to win.He’s been here for four years and you eagle fans that want him gone, have short term memory..We CANNOT let this superstar walk..no one out there available can make up the production if he leaves…Smitty will not be as good without AJ..and vice versa…Everyone needs to chill, let AJ show he can still dominate this year…he should retire an eagle..AJ Brown wanted to be traded after a Super Bowl run by week three. How are the fans turning on him again?
May 19May 19 On 3/3/2026 at 8:55 PM, brkmsn said:The reason the Eagles can get higher compensation for him in a trade is because they are on the hook for a large part of his contract. So another team would be acquiring a top WR without a large cap hit.The thing about AJ is he wants to dominate opponents. If he can play for a team that passes a lot, he probably wouldn't appear to be problematic. So there may be better fits for him than the 2022-2025 Eagles offense. A trade would need to be a good fit for him and fair compensation for the Eagles to make any sense.I believe we are getting closer to the time to move AJ. This is more of the expected time frame. Howie wasn't taking a 40 million dollar hit for little to no compensation. Reports are that the Eagles may still get a first though.
May 20May 20 On 5/19/2026 at 10:51 AM, time2rock said:Exactly on both points. I think people like to assume the worst that way if we get less in return it somehow mitigates the disappointment. I just hope Howie swings the best deal possible and isn’t willing to accept slightly less just to accommodate a request from AJ as a show of appreciation and respect for what he has helped us accomplish. I want at least a 1st and want it in 2027 which is supposed to be a strong draft class.22 hours ago, MR-CYN said:Where did I say only one team was interested? If the market was red hot for him he'd be gone. At least we've gone from "he's not going anywhere" "he's too valuable" to realizing he's gone now and is already replaced. This is called the acceptance phase.Eagle's fans like to think the rest of the league is pining to give away all their first rounders to the Eagles for players on the decline. Brown was worth a 1st four years ago when the Eagles acquired him in 2022 at the age of 25 for one, and then ran him into the ground for 4 years. Nobody in their right mind is giving up a first rounder for him. Howie will be lucky to get a second without anything back the other way for a 29 year old declining WR with a history of me first personality problems and a chronic knee.Waddle, Waddle, Waddle. There was a market for Waddle. He was traded for his value. People need to stop comparing Brown to Waddle. Waddle got traded while Brown sits waiting for a trade partner. There's no comparison in situations. Brown will be traded for his worth. Unfortunately it won't be as much.I personally couldn't care less what Howie gets for him. He just needs to go. Notice how Hurts has never said a single word in Brown's defense? Good riddance.CYN - I quoted two posters and the other poster said only one team was interested.He hasn’t already gone because the Eagles couldn’t take/didn’t want to take the full cap hit. Brown is an elite receiver in a low volume passing offense. Plenty of teams give up high picks for players in their late 20s. He’s better than Waddle. Pats in particular need him. Howie should be getting a first.
May 20May 20 27 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:CYN - I quoted two posters and the other poster said only one team was interested.He hasn’t already gone because the Eagles couldn’t take/didn’t want to take the full cap hit.Brown is an elite receiver in a low volume passing offense. Plenty of teams give up high picks for players in their late 20s. He’s better than Waddle. Pats in particular need him. Howie should be getting a first.Ah I missed that sorry. The good news is we're going to find out soon what happens with him, and we can move onto the next drama like signing or trading Carter. I don't think they can pay two DTs premium money so one has to go.🙈
May 20May 20 9 minutes ago, MR-CYN said:Ah I missed that sorry. The good news is we're going to find out soon what happens with him, and we can move onto the next drama like signing or trading Carter. I don't think they can pay two DTs premium money so one has to go.🙈I feel like a deal has already been done with the Pats. Just had a quick look at their depth chart and they desperately need him. Hopefully we get at least a first. Agreed DT will be interesting. Carter is a generational talent but off-field issues/injuries have met he hasn’t quite lived up to it yet. Be interested with what they do. We still need to pay Mitchell and Coop as well
May 20May 20 On 5/18/2026 at 5:34 PM, ManchesterEagle said:How do you know there is only one team that wants Brown?And in any event if may be that negotiations have already happened and the price has been agreed.He’s better than Waddle and we should get at least a first.Being better than Waddle is partially if not mostly irrelevant when it comes to trade value. His value is dependent on the market and the market decides his value based on a number of factors.
May 20May 20 Author 2 hours ago, MR-CYN said:Ah I missed that sorry. The good news is we're going to find out soon what happens with him, and we can move onto the next drama like signing or trading Carter. I don't think they can pay two DTs premium money so one has to go.🙈Time to start the "Has Jalen Carter played his last game in an Eagles uniform" thread?
May 20May 20 Author 2 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:I feel like a deal has already been done with the Pats. Just had a quick look at their depth chart and they desperately need him. Hopefully we get at least a first.Agreed DT will be interesting. Carter is a generational talent but off-field issues/injuries have met he hasn’t quite lived up to it yet. Be interested with what they do. We still need to pay Mitchell and Coop as wellThere will be plenty of cap space to pay all of them ... once we get Hurts' contract off the books.
Saturday at 10:58 PM4 days On 5/18/2026 at 2:25 PM, MR-CYN said:And this is why his market value is lower. The two situations simply aren't comparable. Unless Howie waits for someone to get hurt and a team is in need the market is mostly cool for him at this point. He's getting dealt regardless.I'll always remember him for his 3 for 35 against SF at home, yelling at the coach, going down with a whimper with short arms, and general lack of interest in winning a home playoff game. A 2nd? Sure. A 3rd? Ok. Whatever. Good riddance. 🤌His piss poor effort blocking all season was somehow more frustrating to me.
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