1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

MF,

A fine and a draft pick?? Are you hearing/seeing that somewhere?? That seems a bit steep.

Thephillyspecialshow did a YT short saying "IF" the Eagles wanted to make a case for tampering, that's what they could possibly get. He also cited how we got compensation for the Gannon tampering with the Cardinals. I don't know if Lurie would make a stink about it, but the NFL should do something regardless, imo.

57 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

I dont believe the Eagles will trade A.J.Brown even if they draft WR round 1

He's as good as gone. IMO. He's a post June 1 trade. Get a 2nd round pick and if possible, get a S or OL for him. That probably won't happen though, getting a player in return.

And they better not draft a WR in round 1. 😝

14 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

He's as good as gone. IMO. He's a post June 1 trade. Get a 2nd round pick and if possible, get a S or OL for him. That probably won't happen though, getting a player in return.

And they better not draft a WR in round 1. 😝

I agree, I think he's gone, but I would like to be wrong.

26 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

He's as good as gone. IMO. He's a post June 1 trade. Get a 2nd round pick and if possible, get a S or OL for him. That probably won't happen though, getting a player in return.

And they better not draft a WR in round 1. 😝

He can be gone but I dont believe it will happen before week 7 as it makes no sense for the strength of the team and Howie is not type of Gm who makes the team willingly weaker as he wants to compete for SB

10 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

He can be gone but I dont believe it will happen before week 7 as it makes no sense for the strength of the team and Howie is not type of Gm who makes the team willingly weaker as he wants to compete for SB

Ok Please answer this: why would they wait until the middle of the season to trade him?? I would think that the Eagles could get more for him now, with a trade.

But, hmmmmmm, if they traded him mid-season, to a team that's desperate for a WR, the Eagles could maybe get a better return? 🤔🧐

4 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Ok Please answer this: why would they wait until the middle of the season to trade him?? I would think that the Eagles could get more for him now, with a trade.

But, hmmmmmm, if they traded him mid-season, to a team that's desperate for a WR, the Eagles could maybe get a better return? 🤔🧐

As I see it, the goal for the season is to try to go for a SB run as this is maybe the last try in current window. After this season there will probably be lot of changes on Oline, Goedert will be probably gone plus I also expect that it will be really difficult to keep all the key players on defense from the Cap situation point of view...therefore you want to keep the quality of the team as high as possible and currently the team is still better with A.J. than withouth him even if we draft WR in round 1...So as I read it...If we don't draft WR round 1 A.J. is going nowhere before week 1(then maybe if season goes south early or he is clearly dogging it with new offensive regime)...If we draft WR round 1 it creates space a little, where Howie can say: "Okay if I get nonsense that I am asking for him, we get the great value and there is also at least some hope we got decent WR2 with Smith being WR1, but If nobody gives me my nonsense(Which I expect will happen) I have no reason to trade him because we will go for the SB run with stacked WR corps"...Therefore unless season goes south early or Brown is clearly dogging it even with new offensive regime I really don't see much logic in trading him...hence earlier mentioned Week7...However it is true that I am absolutelly not buying the crap that A.J. wants to be gone which is quite important assumption for my reading of the situation ...sorry for the essay

^^^^^^

Good points.

But wow what a Word Salad. 😎😎

3 hours ago, LacesOut said:

^^^^^^

Good points.

But wow what a Word Salad. 😎😎

"All ur words are belong to us."

The guy is gone. Really don't know why people are still debating this. When a diva WR wants out he gets out.

22 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

The guy is gone. Really don't know why people are still debating this. When a diva WR wants out he gets out.

Not just limited to WRs. When Reddick wanted out … he was done. When Wentz to wanted out … gone. When Huff wanted out … gone. Howie knows he has a locker room culture to preserve and those guys end up disrupting that.

I always presumed if AJ was going (which he likely is) it would be after June 1st.

But the Eagles now have 32 million in cap space, so could presumably absorb the dead cap. Is it possible they are looking at a potential draft day trade (perhaps dependent on whether certain players they want are still there?

16 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

I always presumed if AJ was going (which he likely is) it would be after June 1st.

But the Eagles now have 32 million in cap space, so could presumably absorb the dead cap. Is it possible they are looking at a potential draft day trade (perhaps dependent on whether certain players they want are still there?

I don't pretend to know with 100% certainty how the cap works, but trading AJ before June 1st would result in a dead money hit to the 2026 cap of $43,448,702. That is obviously > $32M (I know ... I did the math ). So if a draft day trade were possible, it looks like we would still need to clear quite a bit of cap space ... not only the $11M+ to cover the remainder of the dead money but also enough to cover the draft class pool. So not sure if a pre June 1 trade is possible.

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

I don't pretend to know with 100% certainty how the cap works, but trading AJ before June 1st would result in a dead money hit to the 2026 cap of $43,448,702. That is obviously > $32M (I know ... I did the math ). So if a draft day trade were possible, it looks like we would still need to clear quite a bit of cap space ... not only the $11M+ to cover the remainder of the dead money but also enough to cover the draft class pool. So not sure if a pre June 1 trade is possible.

My understanding (and again I could be very wrong!) is that the 43 million dead money includes his current cap hit of 23 million and therefore the additional hit is 20 million which would make it possible

2 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

My understanding (and again I could be very wrong!) is that the 43 million dead money includes his current cap hit of 23 million and therefore the additional hit is 20 million which would make it possible

Yeah you very well could right there. I look at the dead money hit and just assume that is the hit … nothing offsetting. Hopefully someone who knows better can enlighten us.

6 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

My understanding (and again I could be very wrong!) is that the 43 million dead money includes his current cap hit of 23 million and therefore the additional hit is 20 million which would make it possible

As I understand it (and I'm better than most at the cap), if they trade AJ pre-June 1, they would have paid him about $43.5M or so that had not hit the cap yet, and that would hit all at once as dead money for the 2026 season. OTOH, if they trade him post-June 1 (but before the season, and therefore still not pay him anything for 2026), the rules provide for a cap hit of $16.3M for 2026, and then the remainder (about $27.2M accelerated cap hit) in 2027.

Notice that there is no difference in the total amount eventually applied to the cap in one season or another. Spend a dollar on player compensation, and it must hit the cap at some point -- it is just timing as to when.

If they kept him throughout 2026, the rules provide for the Eagles applying a cap hit of $23.4M for 2026, and then future cap hits in later years (because, e.g., they would pay him $29M in 2026, and all of that would have to hit the cap eventually). So they have cap "savings" of $7M for 2026 by trading him post-June 1 (applying $16M rather than $23M), but that is of course a misnomer. They don't "save" the rest of the cap hit, they just defer applying it to the salary cap until a later year.

So yes, they could apparently absorb the cap hit from a pre-June 1 trade and still be under the cap, but that would probably not be wise -- Howie likes to kick the can down the road to leave himself more flexibility (and of course, salary cap space can be rolled over from one year to the next), and you want some salary cap flexibility going into the season.

9 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

My understanding (and again I could be very wrong!) is that the 43 million dead money includes his current cap hit of 23 million and therefore the additional hit is 20 million which would make it possible

I know one person here who could likely provide the best explanation. Calling @vikas83

4 hours ago, time2rock said:

I know one person here who could likely provide the best explanation. Calling @vikas83

Yes. The 43mm is the dead money charge. If they took it all this year, it adds just over 20mm to the cap - the difference between the cap charge less his ~23mm cap on the books. So the net cap loss is just over 20mm. This is why trading him pre June 1 was impossible before DG resigned and pushed off a chunk of his 20mm dead money to be off the roster.

Trading him post June 1 reduces the 2026 dead money to 16.4mm, so we gain around 6.5mm in 2026 cap space since we don’t have his ~23mm cap charge for being on the roster. But ~27.2mm hits as dead money in 2027.

6 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Yes. The 43mm is the dead money charge. If they took it all this year, it adds just over 20mm to the cap - the difference between the cap charge less his ~23mm cap on the books. So the net cap loss is just over 20mm. This is why trading him pre June 1 was impossible before DG resigned and pushed off a chunk of his 20mm dead money to be off the roster.

Trading him post June 1 reduces the 2026 dead money to 16.4mm, so we gain around 6.5mm in 2026 cap space since we don’t have his ~23mm cap charge for being on the roster. But ~27.2mm hits as dead money in 2027.

Thanks brother ... appreciate the explanation.

@ManchesterEagle - so your assumption was spot on. It certainly adds an extra level of interest to draft day for sure.

So he’s going then?

20 hours ago, time2rock said:

Not just limited to WRs. When Reddick wanted out … he was done. When We to wanted out … gone. When Huff wanted out … gone. Howie knows he has a locker room culture to preserve and those guys end up disrupting th

30 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

So he’s going then?

No😂

Is there a place to bet on whether he's staying or going?

Honestly I pretty much thought Brown was gone months ago. I’ve kind of already prepared for him to be gone. I also didn’t expect anything prior to June 1st. Howie is going to do what’s best for the Eagles and giving up Brown for nothing plus taking a nasty cap hit wasn’t going to happen.

vikas = Howie Jr.

He's gone come June 1st, my principle objection is it seems to be received wisdom that we're getting no better than a second round pick, when Jaylen Waddle fetched a first and third and he's only 6 months younger. I don't understand why we're eating this much dead cap for a second, unless he's become an absolute locker room poison and we just want rid.

On 4/21/2026 at 12:31 PM, Mike030270 said:

Is there a place to bet on whether he's staying or going?

You can place a bet with me. I just need a credit card #, your Mother's Maiden name, the expiration date on the card, and the CVV # on the back of said credit card. Thanks.

Oh, the minimum bet is $3000.00.