A 5th and a next year 6th for a guy who was a 5th and hasn't really shined. I get it that Manion has experience with him, but so what. Just look at the Eagles WR romm as it stands and tell me how it adds up.

AJ is still here, but let's assume he won't be.

DeVonta Smith will be our #1 and they signed Wicks for 2027 so the only sure things are DeVonta's status and that Wicks will be here.

Returning we have - Darius Cooper, Britain Covey, Danny Gray, Johnny Wilson, and Quez Watkins

Then there's the new additions - Hollywood Brow, Elijah Moore, and Wicks

How many will they keep - 5 or 6

Covey is the only returner among them and Wilson is the only coverage team special teamer.

None of these guys has elite size.

Do we still add one on the draft's second day?

Help me understand this move.

Camp body? A move that Mannion made?

They keep adding WRs. Can't have them all on the roster.

6 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Camp body? A move that Mannion made?

They keep adding WRs. Can't have them all on the roster.

I'd be pissed if they gave up a 5th and a 6th for a player merely considered a camp body.

23 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I'd be pissed if they gave up a 5th and a 6th for a player merely considered a camp body.

Same here.

But, look what they did last year, giving up two picks for Tank, and they barely used him. SMH. 😖😝

Green Bay’s offense spreads the ball around to different receivers….looks like that’s the plan here. no main alpha type wr. I’m sure aj will love that approach.

13 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

Green Bay’s offense spreads the ball around to different receivers….looks like that’s the plan here. no main alpha type wr. I’m sure aj will love that approach.

I wouldn't worry so much about AJ as I would Hurts. He's never demonstrated he can see the whole field and spread the ball around.

Just now, Rob331 said:

I wouldn't worry so much about AJ as I would Hurts. He's never demonstrated he can see the whole field and spread the ball around.

very good point. Jalen is clutch as hell but he’s not a drop back & read the defense type qb.

He is under contract for 2027. AJ is tradable after 2026. If AJ is still a loser weirdo then he is gone.

DeVonta, AJ, Hollywood, Wicks, and Goedert is a top level pass catcher group for 2026 (assuming AJ is not a PoS)

Green Bay threw the ball to multiple pass catchers. 5 with 44+ targets. Dotson was 4th on the Eagles at 36.

The offense was simplified in 2024 because they had a 2k rusher and a running QB. Of course you run for 3048 yards and 29 TDs.

The offense was simple in 2025 because Siri and Patullo are simple. The O-line was also a mess.

The offense in 2026 will be more aggressive and advanced but not stupid risky. All these targets will contribute.

In 2022 Hurts had 3700 yards passing in 15 games with Siri shutting down the offense in most 4th quarters.

They could easily have passed for 5k in 17 games. They had 4105 even with soft Siri.

In 2023 Hurts passed for 3858 with a simpleton at OC and soft Siri.

Soft Siri has been lobotomized.

This team was:

3 3 on offense in 2022 (should have been 1 1)

7 8 on offense in 2023

7 8 again on offense in 2024. (and

Top 5. Top 8. Top 8. With a SB MVP, 2nd team all-pro, playing like a Hall-of-Famer, QB.

Look at this as a continuation of 2021-2024, not anything to do with the Patullo/Siri middle fingers to the team and fans that was 2025.

My take:

He's not an AJ Brown replacement. He's not good enough for that. He is however, good enough to earn a WR 3 spot and hold it down for 2 years. At worst he becomes the WR 4 behind Hollywood. Quality depth that can help win now was needed, and the Eagles got that in Wicks. I'm good with this trade.

I don’t get why @Godfather and @hputenis enjoy stroking each other while they defecate on @olsilverhair but sometimes you just gotta accept that you’re never going to understand everything and move on since you have no control over the situation.

18 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The offense in 2026 will be more aggressive and advanced but not stupid risky. All these targets will contribute.

I worry that Hurts has never demonstrayed the ability to see the whole field and distribute the ball to multiple receivers.

My view is AJ is gone June 1 for a first rounder next year and a conditional second day pick.

We will only add a WR or possibly an elite TE in the draft if someone drops that we like and think is value.

Davonte will be the clear #1 (which he was already but AJ cried for balls that should have gone to him).

Hollywood, Wicks and Wilson will be the remaining group in a spread the ball around strategy with one or two of a draft pick, Covey, Moore or Gray making the team. We will also draft a TE in rounds 3-4 who could have an impact alongside Goedert at some point this year. We might even go with 6 WRs and only 3 TEs if we like the rookie TE we draft.

We will not have a strong WR group this year, but if they remain healthy and we’ve added a couple quality OLs, they will be ok and we will have an extra first round pick for next year and will address the position in what may be a good draft.

One fewer WR to teach the new offense system to.

Wicks is a tall big body WR.He can block and receive. Wilson has been tried out, but at this point is relegated to blocking duties. Hollywood is a fast lightweight to stretch defense. The point is....Each receiver has its own purpose. Eagles needed a younger, cheeper large body WR when AJ departs. It makes TOTAL sense. Not all WR will make the team.

On 4/11/2026 at 12:00 PM, Rob331 said:

A 5th and a next year 6th for a guy who was a 5th and hasn't really shined. I get it that Manion has experience with him, but so what. Just look at the Eagles WR romm as it stands and tell me how it adds up.

AJ is still here, but let's assume he won't be.

DeVonta Smith will be our #1 and they signed Wicks for 2027 so the only sure things are DeVonta's status and that Wicks will be here.

Returning we have - Darius Cooper, Britain Covey, Danny Gray, Johnny Wilson, and Quez Watkins

Then there's the new additions - Hollywood Brow, Elijah Moore, and Wicks

How many will they keep - 5 or 6

Covey is the only returner among them and Wilson is the only coverage team special teamer.

None of these guys has elite size.

Do we still add one on the draft's second day?

Help me understand this move.

You are WAY overcomplicating this.

A. You act like a 5th and future 6th are premium picks. They gave up very little for Wicks, who cares. I get it partially since people love to do draft simulator and get carried away this time of the year that every pick is going to be a good NFL player but the fact is the chances of those picks becoming even decent NFL players isn't high, they are far more likely to be the next John Hightower or Trevor Keegam

B. AJ Brown has been gone, this just further cements that. Obviously not that Wicks replaces him, but it's becoming a numbers game.

C. GB consistently used 4 WR's and spread the ball around. Sean Mannion comes from GB. You can't replace an AJ Brown one for one. They will use multiple WR's in 2026.

D. Piggy backing on that, they will take a money ball approach to replacing AJ Brown and do so in the aggregate. Smitty becomes the number 1 and will get plenty of targets and I would imagine will be used much more creatively with motion, lining up all over the place, etc. Hollywood Brown is best used in the slot and can have an impact with limited targets/touches per game. Moore is also best used in the slot so if Hollywood gets hurt or simply doesn't work out you have him as plan B for that. Wicks can play the X and be a chain mover, dirty work guy, blocker, knows the offense, etc. In addition to that floor he has also flashed at times during his time in GB and is only 25 so there is some upside. I would expect them to still draft a WR on day 1 or day 2 and it will probably be an X type like Boston, Bell, Fields, Hurst, etc. If that rookie is ready to step right in and have a big role, great. If it takes them some time you can work them in here and there along with Wicks. Wicks is versatile as well so if a rookie comes in and earns a big role right away you can use Wicks some at X, some in the slot, etc. The point is they will have Smitty as the number 1 and then use 3 guys to varying degrees in the 2-4 roles.

E. Like I said, Moore could be a plan B to Hollywood Brown as a pure slot guy. Darius Cooper can always earn a spot or even role depending on a few factors. Johnny Wilson will always have a legit chance to make the team because of his ability on special teams and as a blocker. Covey same because of his PR ability. Barring injury these guys will battle it out for the 5th and possibly 6th WR spots and they can also stash a guy or two on the PS perhaps.

Specifically with Wicks now and tie this all together. Mannion obviously thinks highly of him or this move doesn't happen. His former WR coach is now on the coaching staff as well. He brings a high floor due to route running, blocking, and being familiar with the offense/coaching staff, but at 25 and having shown flashes during his first three seasons also has some upside. That 12.5 million is up to and probably HEAVILY incentive based and even IF it isn't he is essentially on a two year, 15 million dollar deal. As far as 2027 and beyond you will have Smitty, Wicks, and likely a significant 2026 draft pick heading into year two and they can patch work the depth at the position together with some combination of Hollywood, Moore, Cooper, Wilson, or the next Hollywood/Moore on a cheap one year deal in free agency. You weren't replacing AJ one to one and the offense is/was changing already so all of this makes PERFECT sense. No need to overcomplicate this broke.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

GB consistently used 4 WR's and spread the ball around. Sean Mannion comes from GB. You can't replace an AJ Brown one for one. They will use multiple WR's in 2026.

Worries me that Hurts has nevere demonstrated he good at seeing the whole field or spreading the ball around.

You talk about making the team - so you've given slots to have Smitty, Wicks, Hollywood, Moore, a high draft pick and Covey. None of them plays special teams. Not sure that works when considering roster balance.

As far as giving up too much - a 5th and a 2027 6th IS too much. Howie has always places a high value on furure draft picks. This guy was a 5th and his results haven't shown he should have gone higher. That not simulator talk, it's just the fact.

Love threads that ask for explanations then when one is given, they don't like that explanation 😂😂

5 hours ago, Rob331 said:

Worries me that Hurts has nevere demonstrated he good at seeing the whole field or spreading the ball around.

You talk about making the team - so you've given slots to have Smitty, Wicks, Hollywood, Moore, a high draft pick and Covey. None of them plays special teams. Not sure that works when considering roster balance.

As far as giving up too much - a 5th and a 2027 6th IS too much. Howie has always places a high value on furure draft picks. This guy was a 5th and his results haven't shown he should have gone higher. That not simulator talk, it's just the fact.

I agree but that doesn't change the fact that that is what the offense is changing to so he will need to perform.

I never said half of that. I said Smitty, Wicks, Hollywood, and a draft pick. Moore would be a plan B for the slot with Hollywood, and otherwise is on the PS or not on the team. Cooper, Wilson, and Covey will battle it out for the 5th and/or 6th spots.

Lol, it's a 5th and a 6th.

5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Love threads that ask for explanations then when one is given, they don't like that explanation 😂😂

Yeah it is funny. He doesn't have to like it, but he says he doesn't get it and then gets it explained it to him and still doesn't seem to get it.

you don't need to "understand" the trade. Howie and company have forgot more football than we will ever know.

Sorry if them not consulting TATE doesn't satisfy you.

I'm ok with the Wicks trade and why they traded for him. The move definitely solidifies that Brown is indeed gone. A 5th and 6th round pick may not seem like much, but it's nothing to sneeze at either. While the majority of players picked in these rounds don't pan out or just become average role players, there can be good talent found. Every draft pick is like a lottery ticket.

The approach Howie is taking right now for the WR position is definitely to replace Brown with an aggregate of players. The downside to that approach is that saying when teams try a similar approach to the QB room: If you have 3 "starting caliber QBs" you don't have any. Same thing here....Wicks/Hollywood/Moore...all are "startable", but do we really have a WR there?

42 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I'm ok with the Wicks trade and why they traded for him. The move definitely solidifies that Brown is indeed gone. A 5th and 6th round pick may not seem like much, but it's nothing to sneeze at either. While the majority of players picked in these rounds don't pan out or just become average role players, there can be good talent found. Every draft pick is like a lottery ticket.

The approach Howie is taking right now for the WR position is definitely to replace Brown with an aggregate of players. The downside to that approach is that saying when teams try a similar approach to the QB room: If you have 3 "starting caliber QBs" you don't have any. Same thing here....Wicks/Hollywood/Moore...all are "startable", but do we really have a WR there?

I don't think the Wicks trade necessarily is an indicator that Brown is 100% gone, at least not this offseason. And I don't know that Moore should be considered a roster lock (possibly Hollywood shouldn't be either but he seems to have a better chance of making the 53). I don't think any of these moves is an indicator of any future plans, whether related to Brown or their draft plans (they very well could still take a WR on day 1 or 2).

16 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I don't think the Wicks trade necessarily is an indicator that Brown is 100% gone, at least not this offseason. And I don't know that Moore should be considered a roster lock (possibly Hollywood shouldn't be either but he seems to have a better chance of making the 53). I don't think any of these moves is an indicator of any future plans, whether related to Brown or their draft plans (they very well could still take a WR on day 1 or 2).

Can't agree with you there T2R...the signings of Moore, Hollywood and the trade for Wicks is preparation for the Brown trade. I don't think it precludes them from taking a WR in the draft, but I do think it definitely has to do with Brown's future. At this point, I'd be shocked if it didn't happen. Only way it doesn't happen is if the compensation price drops and Howie says nah, nevermind. But to me, this is definite planning to be without him.

43 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Can't agree with you there T2R...the signings of Moore, Hollywood and the trade for Wicks is preparation for the Brown trade. I don't think it precludes them from taking a WR in the draft, but I do think it definitely has to do with Brown's future. At this point, I'd be shocked if it didn't happen. Only way it doesn't happen is if the compensation price drops and Howie says nah, nevermind. But to me, this is definite planning to be without him.

I'm still not sold that they trade Brown this offseason. However, this is the first time I'm batting an eye at the situation because it does seem like they are trying to soften the blow by getting all these guys with different skill sets.

If they draft a WR, it better be in the later rounds. Too many other needs on this roster to draft a WR high, IMO.

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