On 7/29/2026 at 4:01 AM, EazyEaglez said:

So is this the QBs fault or the receiver? Asking for a friend. 😂

On 7/1/2026 at 1:13 AM, SkippyX said:

Did anyone have a problem with his style in 2022?

3701 passing yards over 15 games with the Siri anchor in most 4th quarters and some 3rd quarters?

3701 and 22 TDs over 15 is 4194 and 25 over 17.

He had another 760 and 13 TDs on the ground. That's 861 and 15 TDs over 17

4461 and 35 in 15 games with the coach limiting the offense.

Add them up and its 4562 and 40 TDs over 17. This is not enough style?

Take Siri's foot of the brakes and its pushing 5k and 45+ easy.

If anyone is so poisoned against Hurts that they are incapable of rational thought then think of it this way.

QB1 was throwing and Siri shut him down way too often.

1496 and 11 AJ Brown should have had around 1850 and 14 without Siri meddling.

1196 and 7 DeVonta Smith could have had 1450 and 10.

Josh Allen was MVP in 2022 with 4255 and 43 in 17*

He token started a game 17 for a fake streak so its fair to say 4521 and 46 over 17

Lamar was MVP in 2023 with 3678 and 24 passing and 821 and 5 rushing in 16 games.

That's 4780 and 31 over 17.

That pace is with Siri holding the entire offense back while we raged on the game day threads.

A 5000 and 45 pace was easily in range with the talent and his performance.

He was 2nd team all-pro QB behind Mahomes and he was 2nd in MVP voting.

Mahomes and Hurts then met in the SB and Hurts was awesome.

Hurts was clearly and obviously beyond any doubt one of the two best QBs in 2022.

Josh Allen had 19 turnovers that year. Buffalo had a legit shot at 16-0. (no 17th game due to the Damar Hamlin injury)

They lost 3 games by a total of 8 points. Allen had 11 sacks, 4 picks, 6 fumbles, 2 lost in those 3 games.

Imagine if Hurts did that in this town...

There was zero possibility for Hurts to perform at that same level with the OCs in 2023 and 2025 and obvious run heavy offense in 2024.

Anyone think he should have put up 4000+ passing and 35 TDs in year 1 as a starter with:

Watkins

Raegor

JJAW

Ward

splitting 131 targets?

He had those idiots at OC in 2023 and 2025 and still vastly outplayed most other QBs in non-optimal years

Look at the joke that is Stafford 2022-24 (22-18 record 2 to 1 TD to INT 91.5 passer rating and NOTHING to help the run game)

Look at every year of Jim Kelly's career that is not 90 or 91.

Look at Marino from 1987-1999

Look at Rivers most of the 2010s.

2024 Hurts was a vital part of a dominant run game that set the record for rushing yards in a combined season and won the SB scoring the most points in playoff history... how dare he not throw more and maybe lose an extra game or two? 55-23 and 40-6 + garbage time was not enough style?

The problem is never with his clear and obvious HoF level play through 5 years as a starter Jalen Hurts.

Its always with the people who are unable to comprehend anything about NFL QB play.

Like.....do you like the taste of it or something?

On 7/24/2026 at 7:27 PM, SkippyX said:

BSPN did some kind of poll that ranked Hurts as the 17th best QB.

His record against the 16 above him? 27-13

17th is insane talk. Anything outside top 10 range right now isnt done in good faith. 8th is probably the lowest id put him right now due to the consistency and he remains healthy

Now if he chooses to not run and has a drop off without AJ, it can be discussed...but I think he'll be okay if the lines okay

This is how the a-holes logic their hatred.

Darnold just won a SB throwing to 2 offensive players of the year and 2 SB MVPs and they are 3 different people.

The year before he was throwing to a 3rd offensive player of the year.

He is better than Hurts because Hurts has weapons...

Just a reminder about Hurts in the SB.

He not only has 667 yards of offense and 7 TDs but he did that on 3 less possible drives.

Siri took pity on KC when Hurts and the offense wanted to score more.

The interaction between Hurts and Siri is included in the Mic'd Up film.

Pickett went 3 and out with 3 Gainwell runs into the line and then the next drive was 3 kneel downs.

You know Lane, Mailata, and company wanted another 10 or 14 points.

If Bradbury does not hold or it is not called, that's another 2 minute drill

(1:35 and a timeout or so) on a day where he already had 374 yards and 4 TDs.