October 6, 20204 yr Hollins: 36 games, 26 catches, 351 yards, 1 TD. Cut mid-season in his 2nd year. JJAW: 19 games, 10 catches, 126 yards, 1 TD. The numbers are almost the same per game. (Ward: 11 games, 46 catches, 400 yards, 2 TD.)
October 6, 20204 yr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said: Hollins: 36 games, 26 catches, 351 yards, 1 TD. Cut mid-season in his 2nd year. JJAW: 19 games, 10 catches, 126 yards, 1 TD. The numbers are almost the same per game. (Ward: 11 games, 46 catches, 400 yards, 2 TD.) Speaking of Ward, was just looking at his projection for the season based on these first 4 games. On pace for 72 Rec, 584 yards, 4 TDs. I mentioned in the offseason that I thought he could settle into a Jason Avant type of slot receiver role. Those numbers are very Avant like.
October 6, 20204 yr Just now, nipples said: Speaking of Ward, was just looking at his projection for the season based on these first 4 games. On pace for 72 Rec, 584 yards, 4 TDs. I mentioned in the offseason that I thought he could settle into a Jason Avant type of slot receiver role. Those numbers are very Avant like. I remember last year thinking how blessed we would have been to have a receiver like Avant given all the issues. He wasn't flashy or a star, but just reliable and also a good mentor and leader. Ward is likely not going to be a star either, but I like the comparison. Reliable guy and provides the type of stats that are quality to add to your top receiving threats in Ertz, Goedert, Reagor and Jackson. I really like that Ward seems to have a strong work ethic. He looks like he gives 100% on every play and is working hard to do the best with his opportunity. And it's crazy to think that last Sunday he was the most veteran receiver Wentz had to throw to.
October 6, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, eagle45 said: I don't know what's worse...what JJAW has become or the belief that the Eagles actually planned to draft someone in the 2nd round to learn for 3 years before becoming a possession WR. Did you seriously just compare JJAW to a former all-pro WR who got on a HOF ballot? Seriously? It's not hard to believe that a team drafts a player with the future in mind (depth now / starter later). Some fans are just mad because it was a 2nd round pick. Who cares who I compared him to? I laugh at the thought that players can't be compared to other players. McCaffery was a 3rd round pick that didn't really light it up for the team that drafted him. He didn't make his only Pro Bowl until late in his career. Once he established himself, he was known for making tough catches routine. So yeah ... I think JJ fits this mold. 8 hours ago, NOTW said: I'm not going to waste time finding videos, the guy hasn't done anything while other receivers are performing. Period. You put zero catches in quotes as if it's not true. It's a fact, the guy has 0 receptions. I don't get why bother defending him, are you his relative? The argument about the starting receivers is null when both last year and this year there are periods where all or most of the starting WRs and TEs are out and JJAW still sucks and isn't an option for a QB desperate to find someone to throw to. You really can't get around the fact that practice squad guys with no chemistry with the QB or familiarity in the offense are stepping up making plays and a 2nd year guy in the system and a 2nd round prospect can't make a catch. And earlier you said a 3 year project? You don't draft someone in the 2nd round as a 3 year project that's ridiculous. You've moved on from defending Jason Peters now that he sucks this year and is injured (again) and are choosing to defend a scrub WR with no catches. Interesting choice. I put "zero catches" in quotes, because that's all you guys are harping on. I defend players when I don't think the criticism is fair. As for JJAW, I think he'll contribute during this season. September was bad for the offense. You can choose to single him out and hold him responsible for that mess if that floats your boat. I personally think the QB (my favorite player, btw) was playing his worst football and am not going to blame "zero catches" on a WR that was targeted twice. It's that simple. 7 hours ago, Kz! said: Yeah, there's really no explaining away JJ's lack of production given our dire WR situation and needs over the past 2 seasons. He was on the field a lot last year, and his production was utterly dreadful. Even @brkmsn's youtube videos show him "open" but still pretty tightly covered. He wasn't wide open or burning anyone even in the few "highlights" you could find of him. There's just no solid defense you can make for him when he is outperformed by street free agents on a consistent basis. Of course we all hope he turns it around and doesn't become a wasted second rounder, there's just no way I can say I'm optimistic about that happening given what we've see so far. The videos I posted (and that guy has more) were from later in 2019 and show that he improved from the beginning to the end of last season. Wentz clearly wasn't planning to go his way most of the time. Now, in the NFL, "open" is what you were seeing there. One thing JJAW was doing well was finding open spots while Wentz extended plays. I think that's where how he was used at Stanford helps his pro game. It's possible that the early O-line struggles may be hindering how Wentz prefers to use JJAW. He hasn't really had any time this year to just stand back and wait for plays like that to develop. 3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Look bud in 19 games of work the kid has 10 receptions and 24 targets. That’s not defendable no is him maximizing his opportunities. Furthermore if Howie thinks it’s a good idea to spend a 2nd round pick to replace a player he just gave an extension to then he’s a terrible GM. That is a complete waste of a resource to draft a guy to be a replacement when there are several positions on this roster that could have used a 2nd round level talent. Of course I’m not surprised after all Hurts is virtually the same waste of a pick. You act like this is the first time a player ever struggled early in his career. Also, it's not bad player management to try to find and groom the next guy to replace the first guy down the road. Ideally you have a young upstart pushing a proven veteran to stay on top of his game. 2 hours ago, NOTW said: Hollins: 36 games, 26 catches, 351 yards, 1 TD. Cut mid-season in his 2nd year. JJAW: 19 games, 10 catches, 126 yards, 1 TD. The numbers are almost the same per game. (Ward: 11 games, 46 catches, 400 yards, 2 TD.) Hollins was cut in his 3rd year.
October 7, 20204 yr 21 minutes ago, brkmsn said: It's not hard to believe that a team drafts a player with the future in mind (depth now / starter later). Some fans are just mad because it was a 2nd round pick. Who cares who I compared him to? I laugh at the thought that players can't be compared to other players. McCaffery was a 3rd round pick that didn't really light it up for the team that drafted him. He didn't make his only Pro Bowl until late in his career. Once he established himself, he was known for making tough catches routine. So yeah ... I think JJ fits this mold JJ has a better chance of being out of the league in another year or two than he does of ever making a pro bowl or even becoming a productive player. The guy has shown absolutely nothing.
October 7, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Mortimer said: OK, so who wants to buy a JJaw jersey? The bidding starts at $400. @brkmsn would be good prospect for you. That jersey may end up in Canton someday. And while you’re at it, I have a limited edition poster you can throw in to sweeten the deal:
October 9, 20204 yr Author 5 hours ago, hoosierdaddy said: Sound up I am mad at myself for actually waiting to see a play LMAO
October 9, 20204 yr On 10/6/2020 at 4:54 PM, nipples said: Speaking of Ward, was just looking at his projection for the season based on these first 4 games. On pace for 72 Rec, 584 yards, 4 TDs. I mentioned in the offseason that I thought he could settle into a Jason Avant type of slot receiver role. Those numbers are very Avant like. 8 yards per catch. Ward is the worst oft-used receiver (#1, 2, or 3) in the NFL.
October 9, 20204 yr 6 hours ago, hoosierdaddy said: Sound up Should have added him on the sidelines or the bench lol
October 9, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, eagle45 said: 8 yards per catch. Ward is the worst oft-used receiver (#1, 2, or 3) in the NFL. No he isn’t. That’s just the type of game he excels at. I don’t care if he catches passes for only 8 yards if a good chunk of those are for first downs. Like I said, very Jason Avant like with I’m 100% fine with. In any case a good portion of that has to do with how horrific Wentz was in the first three games. Specifically remember at least one pass at Wards feet for like a one yard gain, could have been more with a decent throw. Then another target he was wide open maybe 15-20 yards down field, but would have had to be 10 feet tall to get a hand on the ball. His average will come up as the season progresses, unless Wentz goes back to sucking again.
October 9, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, nipples said: No he isn’t. That’s just the type of game he excels at. I don’t care if he catches passes for only 8 yards if a good chunk of those are for first downs. Like I said, very Jason Avant like with I’m 100% fine with. In any case a good portion of that has to do with how horrific Wentz was in the first three games. Specifically remember at least one pass at Wards feet for like a one yard gain, could have been more with a decent throw. Then another target he was wide open maybe 15-20 yards down field, but would have had to be 10 feet tall to get a hand on the ball. His average will come up as the season progresses, unless Wentz goes back to sucking again. Yeah, I'm not sure if it was Ward or not but somebody would have had a long gain or TD Sunday night if Wentz would have hit him in stride.....I'm pretty sure it was Ward.
October 9, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, nipples said: No he isn’t. That’s just the type of game he excels at. I don’t care if he catches passes for only 8 yards if a good chunk of those are for first downs. Like I said, very Jason Avant like with I’m 100% fine with. In any case a good portion of that has to do with how horrific Wentz was in the first three games. Specifically remember at least one pass at Wards feet for like a one yard gain, could have been more with a decent throw. Then another target he was wide open maybe 15-20 yards down field, but would have had to be 10 feet tall to get a hand on the ball. His average will come up as the season progresses, unless Wentz goes back to sucking again. Exactly this, I don't see the need to bash the only receiver trying to make plays and making the ones given to him. Especially from the freaking practice squad. We could do a lot better but, we don't have that right now because of crappy drafting and crappy coaching in some aspects. Beetching about Ward and not being up there with the other great slot recievers is ridiculous.
October 9, 20204 yr 11 hours ago, hoosierdaddy said: Sound up Hey @brkmsn your boy is killing it. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🙄
October 9, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Hey @brkmsn your boy is killing it. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🙄 That was 2019. You can't fool me.
October 10, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, PoconoDon said: Look! Here's the 2nd biggest BUST in this thread: That vehicle has VD. I mean just burnt all up.
October 11, 20204 yr Author Whiteside threw a mean block on the Sanders TD...ya right he is lucky he wasnt called for holding Fulgham is looking like a stud right now! lol
October 11, 20204 yr Lol he was so excited about his first catch of the season his brain had a delay on wtf to do
October 11, 20204 yr Author 12 minutes ago, birdgang said: you guys think DK would have scored on that catch?? No, but he would have had more than one catch up to this point in the season
