October 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: I might acknowledge this point of view if you would concede that Biden's family members have also been profiting off his power for years. But you won't...so stop interrupting. Since you already know the answer, I wont give you my opinion, even though it differs from your pretend one. Have fun!!
October 15, 20204 yr 5 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I might acknowledge this point of view if you would concede that Biden's family members have also been profiting off his power for years. But you won't...so stop interrupting. I don't think anyone has ignored the fact that at least Hunter has traded on the family name. The difference here is that there's been years-long investigations in to the Bidens, Clintons, etc. by Barr and his hand-picked internal investigators ... they've turned up nothing. So yes, Hunter profited by his proximity to his father. But there is also not a single instance that you can point to where Joe Biden acted against the national interest. That's actually incredible. Joe has acknowledged that his son has a drug problem, and that he's had to seek treatment. That makes him human. And Joe has also shown that he will do the right thing when the responsibility of the position demands it. Trump on the other hand has tried to buy this election with tax dollars by sending checks of taxpayer money to seniors with his name on it, and now pressing for COVID bucks also with his name on it. So yeah, tell me again which one actually makes decisions with the nation's best interests in mind?
October 15, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said: I mean the article says judging the Miss Ukraine contest. I'm sure he only got that gig because of his dad! Totally corrupt!
October 15, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't think anyone has ignored the fact that at least Hunter has traded on the family name. The difference here is that there's been years-long investigations in to the Bidens, Clintons, etc. by Barr and his hand-picked internal investigators ... they've turned up nothing. So yes, Hunter profited by his proximity to his father. But there is also not a single instance that you can point to where Joe Biden acted against the national interest. That's actually incredible. Joe has acknowledged that his son has a drug problem, and that he's had to seek treatment. That makes him human. And Joe has also shown that he will do the right thing when the responsibility of the position demands it. Trump on the other hand has tried to buy this election with tax dollars by sending checks of taxpayer money to seniors with his name on it, and now pressing for COVID bucks also with his name on it. So yeah, tell me again which one actually makes decisions with the nation's best interests in mind? I don't doubt that Biden thinks he has the nations best interest in mind. I would never say that he is only out to benefit himself and cares nothing for the country. That's the kind of thing silly democrats convince themselves of about Republicans in every election.
October 15, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, The Norseman said: I don't doubt that Biden thinks he has the nations best interest in mind. I would never say that he is only out to benefit himself and cares nothing for the country. That's the kind of thing silly democrats convince themselves of about Republicans in every election. I agree that's the common theme and it's often wrong, but in this case, with this president, it is without a doubt 100% F'ing accurate.
October 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, The Norseman said: I don't doubt that Biden thinks he has the nations best interest in mind. I would never say that he is only out to benefit himself and cares nothing for the country. That's the kind of thing silly democrats convince themselves of about Republicans in every election. I was not a huge Dubya fan, but I never doubted that he was making the choices he thought was best for the nation. I can say that about every president I can remember, save Trump. My attitude towards Trump has nothing to do with Republican/Democrat. It has to do with Trump being a terrible, embarrassing president, and an even worse human being who is willing to exploit the culture war to serve his own ends. He has no interest in leading the nation, he cares only for people who can do something for him, and his survival as president. He is total scum. McConnell is a close second. The Republican party is salvageable, but they need to exorcise the demons.
October 15, 20204 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: I'm sure he only got that gig because of his dad! Totally corrupt! Well obviously
October 15, 20204 yr 14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: So yes, Hunter profited by his proximity to his father. Didn't Trump inheret his fathers fortune ?? So Trump profited by proximity to his father.
October 15, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I was not a huge Dubya fan, but I never doubted that he was making the choices he thought was best for the nation. I can say that about every president I can remember, save Trump. My attitude towards Trump has nothing to do with Republican/Democrat. It has to do with Trump being a terrible, embarrassing president, and an even worse human being who is willing to exploit the culture war to serve his own ends. He has no interest in leading the nation, he cares only for people who can do something for him, and his survival as president. He is total scum. McConnell is a close second. The Republican party is salvageable, but they need to exorcise the demons. You have convinced yourself that Trump is an evil self serving person who as sought the presidency only for his personal gain. Because of this hatred, you find fault in everything he does and perpetuate ridiculous narratives to justify your opinions. You are very angry and cannot be reasoned with. Welcome to the Democrat party.
October 15, 20204 yr Just now, The Norseman said: You have convinced yourself that Trump is an evil self serving person who as sought the presidency only for his personal gain. Because of this hatred, you find fault in everything he does and perpetuate ridiculous narratives to justify your opinions. You are very angry and cannot be reasoned with. Welcome to the Democrat party. Yeah, not sure how anyone could have come to that conclusion
October 15, 20204 yr 4 minutes ago, downundermike said: Didn't Trump inheret his fathers fortune ?? So Trump profited by proximity to his father. You're comparing a legitimate inheritance to an unqualified, drug addict degenerate being hired by a foreign company because his father is VP?
October 15, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Yeah, not sure how anyone could have come to that conclusion It's easy. He's a republican.
October 15, 20204 yr 19 minutes ago, The Norseman said: You're comparing a legitimate inheritance to an unqualified, drug addict degenerate being hired by a foreign company because his father is VP?
October 15, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: Ok, fine. But, you do realize that with this trajectory you're suggesting that Burisma is heavily suspected of corrupt activity, right? Don't you think it's a conflict of interest for the VPs son to be under the employ of a multinational organization that is suspected of foreign corruption? The US and UK were going hard after Burisma way before Hunter ever got involved. We know that. That's just facts. One month after Biden and Obama helped the UK seize $23M in Burisma assets, Burisma hired Hunter. In the following months the British tried to work with Shokin and Ukranian anti-corruption officials to further assist and indict the head of Burisma. Shokin refused to cooperate, refused to give British officials the needed documents to continue their own actions, and shelved the Ukranian investigation. That entire ordeal went on for about a year. After a year of holding Burisma's assets, a British court ordered the assets to be unfrozen because British officials couldn't continue their investigation due to Shokin's obstruction. At this point, UK officials pleaded for more help from the U.S. because they were getting nowhere and so off Joe Biden went to Kiev to apply pressure on the Ukranian government. It was during these trips that George Kent learned that Hunter Biden was on the Burisma board of directors. The flag was immediately raised internally within the Obama administration that it could be perceived as a conflict of interest. The Senate was briefed immediately, including Republicans, who had no issues with it whatsoever. It was understood that Biden was doing his job and, if anything, was working against Hunter Biden's interests. So Biden continued his assault on Shokin for obstructing ant-corruption investigations, including the one looking into Burisma, until he was finally voted out via a vote of no confidence in 2016. By that time the Obama administration was winding down and nothing else could be done. Unfortunately, another stooge was appointed in Lutsenko who carried on the pro-Russia agenda into 2019, further stymying British and American anti-corruption. To this date, Burisma investigations are still "open" and "being reviewed". 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: Before you answer...ask yourself if you're answer would be the same if it was one of Trump's kids. In this case, we know all the facts. We know the exact timeline and we have sworn testimony from all parties involved. This isn't a case of "we don't know the whole story". We do know the whole story. These events played out in the public eye for years. There's no questioning any of it. Given that, if Don Jr. was coking it up with Burisma execs, and Trump was going after Burisma, why would I have a problem with it?
October 15, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, The Norseman said: You have convinced yourself that Trump is an evil self serving person who as sought the presidency only for his personal gain. Because of this hatred, you find fault in everything he does and perpetuate ridiculous narratives to justify your opinions. You are very angry and cannot be reasoned with. Welcome to the Democrat party. I haven't convinced myself of anything. He's a piece of crap right out in the open. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean dismissing me makes his transgressions go away.
October 15, 20204 yr 6 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: The US and UK were going hard after Burisma way before Hunter ever got involved. We know that. That's just facts. One month after Biden and Obama helped the UK seize $23M in Burisma assets, Burisma hired Hunter. In the following months the British tried to work with Shokin and Ukranian anti-corruption officials to further assist and indict the head of Burisma. Shokin refused to cooperate, refused to give British officials the needed documents to continue their own actions, and shelved the Ukranian investigation. That entire ordeal went on for about a year. After a year of holding Burisma's assets, a British court ordered the assets to be unfrozen because British officials couldn't continue their investigation due to Shokin's obstruction. At this point, UK officials pleaded for more help from the U.S. because they were getting nowhere and so off Joe Biden went to Kiev to apply pressure on the Ukranian government. It was during these trips that George Kent learned that Hunter Biden was on the Burisma board of directors. The flag was immediately raised internally within the Obama administration that it could be perceived as a conflict of interest. The Senate was briefed immediately, including Republicans, who had no issues with it whatsoever. So Biden continued his assault on Shokin for obstructing ant-corruption investigations, including the one looking into Burisma, until he was finally voted out via a vote of no confidence in 2016. By that time the Obama administration was winding down and nothing else could be done. Unfortunately, another stooge was appointed in Lutsenko who carried on the pro-Russia agenda into 2019, further stymying British and American anti-corruption. To this date, Burisma investigations are still "open" and "being reviewed". In this case, we know all the facts. We know the exact timeline and we have sworn testimony from all parties involved. This isn't a case of "we don't know the whole story". We do know the whole story. These events played out in the public eye for years. There's no questioning any of it. Given that, if Don Jr. was coking it up with Burisma execs, and Trump was going after Burisma, why would I have a problem with it? To believe that would be to believe a damn dirty democrat could act honorably. Not buying it.
October 15, 20204 yr Life is politics. Anyone who says otherwise is full of sheet. I worked my way up, but that first job? I had a friend who put in a good word for me. I did the rest on my own, but it was still "politics” to a certain degree.
October 15, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: I might acknowledge this point of view if you would concede that Biden's family members have also been profiting off his power for years. Absolutely. Kids of famous people get special treatment solely due to the fact that they are the children of famous people. They provide the name recognition and the possibility of some connection to their famous parents. That doesn't mean the parents do or did anything wrong or are responsible for that special treatment.
October 15, 20204 yr 57 minutes ago, The Norseman said: You have convinced yourself that Trump is an evil self serving person who as sought the presidency only for his personal gain. Because of this hatred, you find fault in everything he does and perpetuate ridiculous narratives to justify your opinions. You are very angry and cannot be reasoned with. Welcome to the Democrat party. It's not like we don't have the last six or so years of facts and Trump quotes/actions to base these assessments off of. None of us hate Trump because he's a Republican. We hate him because he's Trump and we've been unwilling participants in this disastrous national experiment bourn out in public since 2016.
October 15, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, Toastrel said: A picture of the file has metadata regarding being a picture. The metadata of a photograph says zero about what was being imaged, other than when and with what it was imaged. Your point? Smoke dawg asserted that a pic couldn’t have metadata. That is totally incorrect.
October 15, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Correct, and technically these could've been second hand copies of the files instead of the originals, but if you're trying to prove something is real, you send the friggin originals so as to not cast doubt over your own story. So either they're fake and these guys are incredibly stupid for making fake nothing berder emails (which is what I'm leaning towards) or these guys are so stupid they sent second hand copies and in the process made them look fake (still entirely possible, and still not moving the needle.) Turns out the metadata worked against these idiots and proved they were fake. Metadata good.
October 15, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: You have convinced yourself that Trump is an evil self serving person who as sought the presidency only for his personal gain. Because of this hatred, you find fault in everything he does and perpetuate ridiculous narratives to justify your opinions. You are very angry and cannot be reasoned with. Welcome to the Democrat party. Yes, Trump is an evil self serving person. Get over it.
October 15, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Turns out the metadata worked against these idiots and proved they were fake. Metadata good. Technically, it just proves the pdf's were created after the fact. But yeah, it certainly gives the appearance of forgery and until the actual files are submitted, the assumption of them being fake is the prudent one. But in the meantime, muh antay truss!
October 15, 20204 yr Been busy and trying to catch up on this story. If I have it right, Biden hasn’t denied that they’re real, but there is no concrete evidence that they are... is that correct?
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