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3 minutes ago, NothingClever said:

I'd just like to take a moment to say how much I enjoy the word "cudgel". It isn't used nearly as much as it should be...

Best old school RPG starting weapon ever.

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1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

My first thought when I read this was "is this a serious question?" Because Trump's corruption is pretty well documented.

Then I realized the person who wrote it completely and totally lost their grasp of reality to where they posted an article seriously posing the question "Is Michelle Obama a Man?"

You are broken. You, mike31mt, and a few others are completely and utterly broken.

That said, here's a good start on Trump's corruption: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/31/trump-boosts-kleptocrats-america-gives-up-corruption-fight-column/2476348001/

Not that I think you'll make any serious attempt to read it, because to accept anything it states would be an assault on the alternate reality you've created for yourself.

Much easier to think ALL media outside of Newsmax and some conspiracy sites are just here to ... I guess do Biden's bidding, or some such thing. This includes Fox News at least some of the time, for being not sufficiently on the reservation.

:roll:  Your authority for this being well documented is an opinion hate piece from USA Today that doesn't cite any corruption on his part

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

My first thought when I read this was "is this a serious question?" Because Trump's corruption is pretty well documented.

Then I realized the person who wrote it completely and totally lost their grasp of reality to where they posted an article seriously posing the question "Is Michelle Obama a Man?"

You are broken. You, mike31mt, and a few others are completely and utterly broken.

That said, here's a good start on Trump's corruption: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/31/trump-boosts-kleptocrats-america-gives-up-corruption-fight-column/2476348001/

Not that I think you'll make any serious attempt to read it, because to accept anything it states would be an assault on the alternate reality you've created for yourself.

Much easier to think ALL media outside of Newsmax and some conspiracy sites are just here to ... I guess do Biden's bidding, or some such thing. This includes Fox News at least some of the time, for being not sufficiently on the reservation.

If only there was a way of quickly and easily verifying this information

20 minutes ago, Procus said:

:roll:  Your authority for this being well documented is an opinion hate piece from USA Today that doesn't cite any corruption on his part

Did you really just call someone out for posting a biased opinion piece? Are you and Mike having some sort of contest for least self aware CVON poster or something?

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Did you really just call someone out for posting a biased opinion piece? Are you and Mike having some sort of contest for least self aware CVON poster or something?

No - I called somebody out for posting a biased opinion piece as factual authority for the claim that DJT was corrupt while in office.  But I can see where you didn't get that.  It's a bit of a high brow concept for someone like you.

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

Best old school RPG starting weapon ever.

http://rgd-traveller.wikidot.com/skilltables

Blade Combat: Axe, Cudgel, Foil, Large Blade, Polearm, Small Blade

I ruled the bloody galaxy, ****es

9 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:

http://rgd-traveller.wikidot.com/skilltables

Blade Combat: Axe, Cudgel, Foil, Large Blade, Polearm, Small Blade

I ruled the bloody galaxy, ****es

Ah Traveller, the game where you can die before you start.

12 hours ago, Gannan said:

Did you really just call someone out for posting a biased opinion piece? Are you and Mike having some sort of contest for least self aware CVON poster or something?

It's a dead heat IMO.

12 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

If only there was a way of quickly and easily verifying this information

 

11 hours ago, Procus said:

No - I called somebody out for posting a biased opinion piece as factual authority for the claim that DJT was corrupt while in office.  But I can see where you didn't get that.  It's a bit of a high brow concept for someone like you.

You calling someone out for posting a "biased opinion piece" is just ... 

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I mean, Trump literally spent more than 25% of his time as president living at on of his own properties on the US taxpayer's dime. Lobbyists, both foreign and domestic, funneled millions to Trump properties while in DC and elsewhere to curry favor with the president. Here's a fun story where Saudi lobbyists spent $270k buying up over 500 nights at Trump hotels after his election.

Much of that time was spent at Mar-a-Lago, where lobbyists were forced to pay a membership fee of $200k - a figure that doubled when Trump became president

Orders of magnitude more money was funneled Trump's way due to his position as president than anything even remotely alleged by content in Hunter's laptop, and Trump encouraged every bit of it

And that's just the low-hanging fruit. There are years of corruption and shady behavior documented in the decades before Trump became president. And doubtless there are countless actions taken by Trump behind closed doors as president - I say doubtless because the J6 committee is shining some light on how he shamelessly used trappings of the presidency to his own personal advantage, and even that is only a small sample of the 4 years he spent there.

The guy is the most crooked president in any living person's lifetime. Watergate-level corruption was just a Tuesday in the Trump White House.

12 hours ago, Procus said:

No - I called somebody out for posting a biased opinion piece as factual authority for the claim that DJT was corrupt while in office.  But I can see where you didn't get that.  It's a bit of a high brow concept for someone like you.

nobody needs a verified news article to know the claim is true. all one has to do is take the blinders off. trump was no better than any other politician that took office. 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I mean, Trump literally spent more than 25% of his time as president living at on of his own properties on the US taxpayer's dime. Lobbyists, both foreign and domestic, funneled millions to Trump properties while in DC and elsewhere to curry favor with the president. Here's a fun story where Saudi lobbyists spent $270k buying up over 500 nights at Trump hotels after his election.

Much of that time was spent at Mar-a-Lago, where lobbyists were forced to pay a membership fee of $200k - a figure that doubled when Trump became president

Orders of magnitude more money was funneled Trump's way due to his position as president than anything even remotely alleged by content in Hunter's laptop, and Trump encouraged every bit of it

And that's just the low-hanging fruit. There are years of corruption and shady behavior documented in the decades before Trump became president. And doubtless there are countless actions taken by Trump behind closed doors as president - I say doubtless because the J6 committee is shining some light on how he shamelessly used trappings of the presidency to his own personal advantage, and even that is only a small sample of the 4 years he spent there.

The guy is the most crooked president in any living person's lifetime. Watergate-level corruption was just a Tuesday in the Trump White House.

Ok so reconcile all this nonsense with the fact that Trumps personal wealth decreased, not increased, during his time in office, and our country was doing very well economically, domestically, and foreign-relations wise

 

Go ahead and show me a list of Presidents who actually lost personal wealth while in office. 

Since Trump was so much more crooked than all others, this should be no problem at all 

How much will you bet me that Bidens wealth at least quadruples? this is when the country is in tatters from his poor performance.

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Ok so reconcile all this nonsense with the fact that Trumps personal wealth decreased, not increased, during his time in office, and our country was doing very well economically, domestically, and foreign-relations wise

 

Go ahead and show me a list of Presidents who actually lost personal wealth while in office. 

Since Trump was so much more crooked than all others, this should be no problem at all 

How much will you bet me that Bidens wealth at least quadruples? this is when the country is in tatters from his poor performance.

Lmao. You typed that as if it's even possible to put a number on the personal wealth of a crime boss.

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Ok so reconcile all this nonsense with the fact that Trumps personal wealth decreased, not increased, during his time in office, and our country was doing very well economically, domestically, and foreign-relations wise

 

Go ahead and show me a list of Presidents who actually lost personal wealth while in office. 

Since Trump was so much more crooked than all others, this should be no problem at all 

How much will you bet me that Bidens wealth at least quadruples? this is when the country is in tatters from his poor performance.

I will bet you will NEVER look into the finances of anyone that doesn't have  (D) next to their name.

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Ok so reconcile all this nonsense with the fact that Trumps personal wealth decreased, not increased, during his time in office, and our country was doing very well economically, domestically, and foreign-relations wise

 

Go ahead and show me a list of Presidents who actually lost personal wealth while in office. 

Since Trump was so much more crooked than all others, this should be no problem at all 

How much will you bet me that Bidens wealth at least quadruples? this is when the country is in tatters from his poor performance.

We have no idea what his wealth was before or after. Nobody actually knows. That's part of the problem - he offered zero transparency into any of his financials and refused to step away from his businesses while president. His net worth is at most informed speculation.

The guy was compromised from the moment he was sworn in because he refused to stop being a businessman and start being a president. The conflicts of interest were evident.

Just now, Boogyman said:

Lmao. You typed that as if it's even possible to put a number on the personal wealth of a crime boss.

Lmao good post!

 

Imagine how f'ing stupid you have to be to cry about Trumps corruption when he literally lost personal wealth and had the country running smoothly. 

Last time I checked the salaries are locked in, and all the presidents before Trump made an absolute killing, increasing their wealth by orders of magnitude.  All while starting random wars, destroying our economy, etc....but nope, no corruption there at all!  

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

I will bet you will NEVER look into the finances of anyone that doesn't have  (D) next to their name.

I posted my f'ing voter ID card so go cry somewhere else about this ish, Im an independent and Im talking presidents from both parties

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Lmao good post!

 

Imagine how f'ing stupid you have to be to cry about Trumps corruption when he literally lost personal wealth and had the country running smoothly. 

Last time I checked the salaries are locked in, and all the presidents before Trump made an absolute killing, increasing their wealth by orders of magnitude.  All while starting random wars, destroying our economy, etc....but nope, no corruption there at all!  

 

3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

We have no idea what his wealth was before or after. Nobody actually knows. That's part of the problem - he offered zero transparency into any of his financials and refused to step away from his businesses while president. His net worth is at most informed speculation.

The guy was compromised from the moment he was sworn in because he refused to stop being a businessman and start being a president. The conflicts of interest were evident.

Now do his kids and there spouses. Before and after they assumed the goverment positions and responsibilities he gave them. You, as a guy who is so outspoken about the dangers of nepotism, should have all that data ready to go.

3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

We have no idea what his wealth was before or after. Nobody actually knows. That's part of the problem - he offered zero transparency into any of his financials and refused to step away from his businesses while president. His net worth is at most informed speculation.

The guy was compromised from the moment he was sworn in because he refused to stop being a businessman and start being a president. The conflicts of interest were evident.

Sure, sure, we have no idea.

Youre so full of ish and the fact that you even mention him being "compromised" when he was sworn in shows that you just ate up every bull ish media talking point hook, line, and sinker

He was no more comprised than his predecessor or successor.  You're just throwing ish at a wall and it never sticks

 

Look at Obama as an example.  You mean to tell me we have no way of knowing if Trump increased his wealth by a factor of ~10??   No clue at all?  You sure you want to be this willfully ignorant today?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Lmao good post!

 

Imagine how f'ing stupid you have to be to cry about Trumps corruption when he literally lost personal wealth and had the country running smoothly. 

Last time I checked the salaries are locked in, and all the presidents before Trump made an absolute killing, increasing their wealth by orders of magnitude.  All while starting random wars, destroying our economy, etc....but nope, no corruption there at all!  

Hey moron, Trump's "personal wealth" is tied up in commercial real estate. How did that do during COVID? 

That doesn't change the fact that millions of taxpayer dollars were funneled directly to his businesses during his time in office, and that lobbyists from all over the world flocked to Trump owned properties to curry favor with the POTUS. Because the guy is transactional to the core. 

Just because someone is bad at corruption doesn't mean they aren't corrupt. FFS this isn't that hard, but I'm dealing with the densest MF'er on the board so 🤷‍♂️

They call it a crime "family" for a reason.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-white-house-income

 

"JARED AND IVANKA MADE UP TO $640 MILLION WHILE WORKING IN WASHINGTON, OR 457,142 STIMULUS CHECKS"

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis

 

"How Did Jared Kushner Get $2 Billion From the Saudis?

Hint: It’s not because of his track record as an investor."

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Hey moron, Trump's "personal wealth" is tied up in commercial real estate. How did that do during COVID? 

That doesn't change the fact that millions of taxpayer dollars were funneled directly to his businesses during his time in office, and that lobbyists from all over the world flocked to Trump owned properties to curry favor with the POTUS. Because the guy is transactional to the core. 

Just because someone is bad at corruption doesn't mean they aren't corrupt. FFS this isn't that hard, but I'm dealing with the densest MF'er on the board so 🤷‍♂️

Youre so full of ish, now youre just grasping at straws

Yes hes just "bad at corruption"....jesus, we're done here, youre intentionally being stupid because you dont want to burst your little bubble

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Oh so now the story changes and we're looking at family.

Whats the subject of this thread again???

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Youre so full of ish, now youre just grasping at straws

Yes hes just "bad at corruption"....jesus, we're done here, youre intentionally being stupid because you dont want to burst your little bubble

Oh so now the story changes and we're looking at family.

Whats the subject of this thread again???

Hunter Biden, who is a scumbag and son of the POTUS. So, mostly on topic. 

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Oh so now the story changes and we're looking at family.

Whats the subject of this thread again???

The family member of a president.

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