August 3, 20232 yr LOL -- whistleblowers aren't usually exculpatory witnesses Quote Mr. Schwartz. Are you aware of any wrongdoing by Vice President Biden? 8 Mr. Archer. No, I'm not aware of any.
August 3, 20232 yr I just can't stop laughing. This is so bad -- no idea why they wanted this guy to testify. Quote Mr. Goldman. So was it -- Shokin was ultimately removed from office. Mr. Archer. Right. 1 Mr. Goldman. Was that a bad thing for -- and the Burisma leaders felt like that 2 would be bad for them? 3 Mr. Archer. That was what I was told.
August 3, 20232 yr Quote Q In this form, the FBI confidential human source appears to relate a 3 statement attributed to Mykola Zlochevsky that says, "It costs five to pay one Biden and 4 five to another," the mark "million" in parentheses. 5 Do you remember reading that? 6 A I do. I do. 7 Q Were you ever made aware of Mr. Zlochevsky paying $5 million to two 8 different Bidens? 9 A No, I'm not. I would assume he's probably talking about me and Hunter, 10 but I don't know. But I don't know anything about those five. 11 Q Based on your knowledge, including your work for Burisma's board, your 12 conversations with Hunter Biden, Mykola Zlochevsky, and others at Burisma, does this 13 allegation strike you as credible, meaning the allegation that there were two $5 million 14 payments to two Bidens? 15 A I think it's -- the agent explains it pretty well on the bottom. And it's similar 16 to, you know, Hunter Biden taking credit for his dad's visit. It's like sending a signal. 17 So he's bragging to this guy that they paid, you know, where he probably paid $5 18 million or whatever, $6 million altogether, you know, so that, you know, just to show 19 he's -- well, there's a lot of -- and he explains it. I forget. There's a word in the 20 document. 21 Mr. Schwartz. You're guessing. 22 Are you aware of a $5 million payment -- 23 Mr. Archer. No. 24 Mr. Schwartz. -- to one Biden and a $5 million payment to another? Mr. Archer. No. 1 Mr. Schwartz. You ever hear anything about that? 2 Mr. Archer. In that document. 3 4 Q Other than that document. 5 A The $5 million and the $5 million, I first saw that in the document. 6 Q And so I think the point you're referring to is that in this document the 7 confidential human source says he cannot opine to the veracity of the allegations and 8 notes that it's not unusual for Ukrainian business executives to brag or show off. 9 A Correct. 10 Q Is that consistent with your understanding? 11 A It's consistent of what I was just explaining in both directions. 12 Q If someone were to conclude from this that this is evidence, this Form 1023 13 is evidence that Joe Biden was bribed by Mykola Zlochevsky, would you disagree with 14 that conclusion? 15 A Yeah, I would.
August 3, 20232 yr Quote Q In other words, it's not that Hunter Biden was influencing U.S. policy. It's 16 that Hunter Biden was falsely giving the Burisma executives the impression that he had 17 any influence over U.S. policy. 18 A I think that's fair. OK, I'll stop for now. But this is amazing. It's all BS.
August 3, 20232 yr Had to Quote Q So Hunter Biden would tell his dad -- 2 A Yeah. 3 Q -- he's in Paris, the weather's great? 4 A Yeah, he never -- there was no ambushing in the sense that, like, Hunter 5 wouldn't just, like, be like, listen, this is my dad. 6 Q And he said, "Say hello to," and he would just say the names of the people 7 there? 8 A I don't recall directly, but, yes, something like that. 9 Q And did you ever have the impression that Joe Biden actually knew who 10 these people were? Or was he just telling -- saying hello, kind of, at Hunter Biden's 11 invitation? 12 A You know, sometimes yes, sometimes no, but generally no. 13 Q Generally he didn't know these people? 14 A Generally it was a very good political, you know, action. 15 Q So he said, "Say hello to Louis" -- 16 A Yeah. 17 Q -- and Joe Biden would say, "Hello, Louis," without knowing who Louis was. 18 Is that fair? 19 A Sometimes, yes.
August 3, 20232 yr Hunter got his dad to write a college recommendation. BRIBERY Quote Q Was there any -- did you ever witness Hunter Biden asking Joe Biden to do 19 something for -- you know, to help BHR or help out Jonathan Li? 20 A A college recommendation. She didn't get in. 21 Mr. Goldman. For who? 22 Mr. Archer. I think for his daughter, to Georgetown. It didn't work.
August 3, 20232 yr Quote In fact, Hunter Biden never asked his father to take official actions on behalf of his 1 business partners? 2 A He did not. He did not ask him -- to my knowledge, I never saw him say, do 3 anything for any particular business. 4 Q And you're not aware of Joe Biden ever doing anything to help his son's 5 business partners? 6 A No. I think that the calls were -- that's what it was. They were calls to talk 7 about the weather, and that was signal enough to be powerful. 8 Q So this, again, was about projecting this illusion of access to his father. Is 9 that right? 10 A Correct. Goldman is really good at this.
August 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Hunter got his dad to write a college recommendation. BRIBERY so Joe couldn't even get a random kid into Georgetown? Joe has no pull.
August 3, 20232 yr Lol so not only was it a dud, it actually dismantled basically all of the GOPs claims. Genius….
August 4, 20232 yr The GOP has been their own worst enemy ever since they adopted the kneel and suck position before Trump.
August 4, 20232 yr Meanwhile at the WSJ: Devon Archer’s Full Biden Story VP Biden mixed the family business with his Ukraine diplomacy. As soon as Devon Archer’s closed-door sitdown with the House Oversight Committee ended Monday, New York’s Daniel Goldman emerged to give the Democratic spin: President Biden’s conversations with his son’s business partners were innocent discussions about the weather or other niceties. That was exposed as false on Thursday when the committee made the complete transcript public. Mr. Archer is a former business partner of Hunter Biden and served with him on the board of Ukrainian energy giant Burisma. Mr. Archer described the value-added that Hunter brought to the business as the "brand,” which was the Biden name. When Hunter put his father on speakerphone with his business clients, "there was [a] brand being delivered.” He further clarified that it was Joe Biden "that brought the most value to the brand.” In other words, Hunter was selling his father’s power in Washington. That is what Burisma was paying for, and it looks like it got its money’s worth. "Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the brand attached to it,” Mr. Archer said. Joe Biden famously bragged of his role in using $1 billion in U.S. aid to get Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin fired during his December 2015 visit to Kyiv. Mr. Archer says Mr. Shokin, who was investigating Burisma, was not "specifically on my radar,” and that he was spun a tale how of Mr. Shokin was actually "good for Burisma.” But he also said he wasn’t on the phone with Hunter, Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky and Burisma exec Vadym Pozharski when they "called D.C.” after a meeting in Dubai to discuss how Washington might alleviate the pressure on them. ---------- What a fantasy world these guys live in. The editorial board of the WSJ is a joke.
August 4, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Meanwhile at the WSJ: Devon Archer’s Full Biden Story VP Biden mixed the family business with his Ukraine diplomacy. As soon as Devon Archer’s closed-door sitdown with the House Oversight Committee ended Monday, New York’s Daniel Goldman emerged to give the Democratic spin: President Biden’s conversations with his son’s business partners were innocent discussions about the weather or other niceties. That was exposed as false on Thursday when the committee made the complete transcript public. Mr. Archer is a former business partner of Hunter Biden and served with him on the board of Ukrainian energy giant Burisma. Mr. Archer described the value-added that Hunter brought to the business as the "brand,” which was the Biden name. When Hunter put his father on speakerphone with his business clients, "there was [a] brand being delivered.” He further clarified that it was Joe Biden "that brought the most value to the brand.” In other words, Hunter was selling his father’s power in Washington. That is what Burisma was paying for, and it looks like it got its money’s worth. "Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the brand attached to it,” Mr. Archer said. Joe Biden famously bragged of his role in using $1 billion in U.S. aid to get Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin fired during his December 2015 visit to Kyiv. Mr. Archer says Mr. Shokin, who was investigating Burisma, was not "specifically on my radar,” and that he was spun a tale how of Mr. Shokin was actually "good for Burisma.” But he also said he wasn’t on the phone with Hunter, Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky and Burisma exec Vadym Pozharski when they "called D.C.” after a meeting in Dubai to discuss how Washington might alleviate the pressure on them. ---------- What a fantasy world these guys live in. The editorial board of the WSJ is a joke. I don't understand the decision to lie about the contents of something that is easily accessible to anyone willing to read through it. It's not like the source material is access restricted, we can all see for ourselves just how much of a disaster this has been.
August 4, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't understand the decision to lie about the contents of something that is easily accessible to anyone willing to read through it. It's not like the source material is access restricted, we can all see for ourselves just how much of a disaster this has been. It's damage control. As evidenced by the comment section of basically any article, most people don't want to actually "do their own research," they want to be spoon fed something that confirms their priors.
August 4, 20232 yr 54 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't understand the decision to lie about the contents of something that is easily accessible to anyone willing to read through it. It's not like the source material is access restricted, we can all see for ourselves just how much of a disaster this has been. Not sure that it's a lie so much as mischaracterizing what value Joe indirectly brought to Burisma. The moment Hunter is hired, the Joe Biden name is now attached to Burisma and it gives them legitimacy even if he never once was involved. Hacks who write editorials like this rely on the rubes to not be able to distinguish between "indirect value" and "being directly involved in Burisma business dealings". Quite frankly, you don't even need to lie to outright snow the right anymore. You just dangle something that looks like what they want to hear and they'll take it and build their own bridge to Crazy Town.
August 4, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't understand the decision to lie about the contents of something that is easily accessible to anyone willing to read through it. It's not like the source material is access restricted, we can all see for ourselves just how much of a disaster this has been. Because many people are too lazy to read for themselves.
August 4, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Not sure that it's a lie so much as mischaracterizing what value Joe indirectly brought to Burisma. The moment Hunter is hired, the Joe Biden name is now attached to Burisma and it gives them legitimacy even if he never once was involved. Hacks who write editorials like this rely on the rubes to not be able to distinguish between "indirect value" and "being directly involved in Burisma business dealings". Quite frankly, you don't even need to lie to outright snow the right anymore. You just dangle something that looks like what they want to hear and they'll take it and build their own bridge to Crazy Town. It's a level of spin you might see from DailyKos. WSJ should be ashamed.
August 4, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: WSJ should be ashamed. Sadly, this is an example of what has happened to nearly all the major media outlets over the last 15 years since they started to have to compete with the instant click bait crap all over the internet
August 4, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Not sure that it's a lie so much as mischaracterizing what value Joe indirectly brought to Burisma. The moment Hunter is hired, the Joe Biden name is now attached to Burisma and it gives them legitimacy even if he never once was involved. Hacks who write editorials like this rely on the rubes to not be able to distinguish between "indirect value" and "being directly involved in Burisma business dealings". Quite frankly, you don't even need to lie to outright snow the right anymore. You just dangle something that looks like what they want to hear and they'll take it and build their own bridge to Crazy Town. This is the part I take issue with: " New York’s Daniel Goldman emerged to give the Democratic spin: President Biden’s conversations with his son’s business partners were innocent discussions about the weather or other niceties. That was exposed as false on Thursday" There's nothing in the transcript that indicates Joe spoke about business deals or anything even remotely resembling quid pro quo discussions. Archer literally does say all that transpired in his presence were exchanges of pleasantries and small talk about the weather or locale.
August 4, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't understand the decision to lie There are people who just lie as a matter of course. I had a friend who would tell his mom he was on his way over when we were on our way to the arcade. My ex would lie about where I was when I was out, not really sure why. There are a lot of people that their default position is just spew BS.
August 8, 20232 yr Author Merely a coincidence that Slurry Joe has publicly bragged about getting the prosecutor fired after this.
August 8, 20232 yr Like I said previously, it was an "illusion" of access until it wasnt, and then it was just access This is an exercise for liberals to see who can believe the plausible deniability the hardest.
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