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1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

It seems the trumpbots really come out at night

We work jobs during day.

Bills to pay. Families to raise. Millions of sloths to support.

13 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

We work jobs during day.

Bills to pay. Families to raise. Millions of sloths to support.

Like Kz apparently 

Just now, Jsvand12 said:

Like Kz apparently 

Don't know Kz enough to say one way or the other.

7 hours ago, lynched1 said:

  😂

You got stuck voting for democrats vision of Trump.

Own your stupidity. 

Ok, I'll bite.   Rather than one sentence not refuting anything with facts, how about specifically stating, point by point and in detail, with corroborating evidence, what exactly is inaccurate about what I posted about Trump (and I'll make it easy for you -- here it is again):  "Pandemic bungled by inept leader who stokes supremacy and conspiracy theories, f's pornstars and pays them off; thinks the justice dept is his personal law firm and tries to use the US military against domestic protestors."    

Good luck!   I'll wait ......  zzzzzzzzzzz.   Yeah, I thought so.   It is called reality -- not a "vision" of Trump.

Also, I'll give you some material to read, I know its not QAnon, but it may be informative (go ahead, trash the sources cause it ain't Fox News, but I have to work too and don't have time to provide you with each and every source -- but man, get some education):  

1.   Pandemic bungling:  https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the-pandemic-how-donald-trump-walked-the-u-s-into-the-covid-19-era/  and  https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trump-administration-abuses-thwart-us-pandemic-response

2.  Conspiracy theories:   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53774289  and   https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/02/2020-election-donald-trump-wades-deeper-into-conspiracy-theories/5691534002/   and https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/donald-trump-qanon-town-hall/index.html   

3.   Pornstar payoff: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cohen/fbi-documents-point-to-trump-role-in-hush-money-for-porn-star-daniels-idUSKCN1UD18D

4.  Justice Dept.:   https://apnews.com/article/56faebddd07e5fc3b349e3e3e30453b2   and  https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/29/barrs-justice-department-serves-up-talking-points-for-trump-422831

5.  Domestic protestors/miitary:  https://www.justsecurity.org/72500/trump-cant-lawfully-use-armed-forces-to-sway-the-election-understanding-the-legal-boundaries/  and https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/06/01/trump-plans-to-use-active-duty-military-forces-to-deal-with-growing-protests/  and https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/06/06/the-battle-of-lafayette-square-and-the-undermining-of-american-democracy/

10 hours ago, Brianfive said:

Until it was vetted. Like what sane people are doing at this very moment

It's still not vetted though. 

46 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

It's still not vetted though. 

The point of the Hunter Biden story isn’t for it to be accurate. 

7 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Don't know Kz enough to say one way or the other.

Oh, he said he was on welfare in another thread so I assumed you meant him.

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14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The point of the Hunter Biden story isn’t for it to be accurate. 

Right. Which is why the news division of Fox News, which still at least adheres to some basic idea of integrity and factual reporting, passed on it.

Only the opinion shows have talked about it, and mostly with respect to the "censoring" of right wing talking points.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Right. Which is why the news division of Fox News, which still at least adheres to some basic idea of integrity and factual reporting, passed on it.

Man, that must have been a tough meeting for Tucker.

28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Right. Which is why the news division of Fox News, which still at least adheres to some basic idea of integrity and factual reporting, passed on it.

Only the opinion shows have talked about it, and mostly with respect to the "censoring" of right wing talking points.

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29 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Man, that must have been a tough meeting for Tucker.

I don't think Chris Wallace and the news division have many meetings with Tucker. That dude is a ****e canoe. 

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I don't think Chris Wallace and the news division have many meetings with Tucker. That dude is a ****e canoe. 

I meant tough for him as he watched the meeting through the glass.

4 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

I meant tough for him as he watched the meeting through the glass.

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13 hours ago, Brianfive said:

butthat the news division chose not to run the story unless oruntil thesourcing and veracity ofthe emailscould beproperlyvetted.      Hey dip craps in cvon this is what journalist are supposed to do

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Damn, the trump campaign didn't have to do Joe like this. Ya hate to see it.

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22 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

No, I don't. There are plenty of bat-ish crazy theories around Trump that don't see the light of day, because they're obviously BS.

The problem you have is that there is actually a LOT of evidence, circumstantial and more, pointing to historic levels of corruption and conflicts of interest within this White House. So the right is trying to play this "see, Biden is ALSO corrupt so it's the same thing!" when it's not even in the same ballpark.

I know it really pisses the right off, but this administration is absolutely historically corrupt and criminal. There are indictments and guilty pleas to prove it. There is also no denial of the fact that Trump has personal loan guarantees coming due, and the American people should not be electing a president who has 3rd parties - domestic OR foreign - that have that sort of leverage on the president. 

And finally:

 

Even in your response you prove my point.  You say nothing about the Hunter Biden reports and deflect right back to Trump.  

Let's just get hypothetical here for here for a second.  If it were to be proven true about Hunter Biden getting corrupt foreign business leaders access to the white house would that not be problematic for you?

it's an election between trump & JOE biden. it's a comparison between them. they're running against each other. every, single thing that comes up is viewed in that lens. 

if hunter biden is corrupt, it's natural to compare his level of corruption to that of trump. to pretend otherwise is naïve. 

Just now, The Norseman said:

Even in your response you prove my point.  You say nothing about the Hunter Biden reports and deflect right back to Trump.  

Let's just get hypothetical here for here for a second.  If it were to be proven true about Hunter Biden getting corrupt foreign business leaders access to the white house would that not be problematic for you?

Not nearly as problematic as an official confirmation that an individual in the WH was identified by the FBI as a Russian stooge and target for disseminating false information, and that individual was the primary source for a fabricated story so flimsy virtually every media outlet passed on running it before they paid off the NYP to run it (even though nobody at the NYP wanted to put their name on it).

14 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Even in your response you prove my point.  You say nothing about the Hunter Biden reports and deflect right back to Trump.  

Let's just get hypothetical here for here for a second.  If it were to be proven true about Hunter Biden getting corrupt foreign business leaders access to the white house would that not be problematic for you?

Trump admits to being $400M in debt (though it's probably more like a billion), and much of it is to foreign interests.  Is that more of a threat to our country and security than your unproven, dubious hypothetical about Hunter Biden?

I read that he owed at least $200M to Chyna. :D

8 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Even in your response you prove my point.  You say nothing about the Hunter Biden reports and deflect right back to Trump.  

Let's just get hypothetical here for here for a second.  If it were to be proven true about Hunter Biden getting corrupt foreign business leaders access to the white house would that not be problematic for you?

So now these leaders are automatically corrupt? :blink:

Ok let's for a moment say what is implied in these emails is somehow true. That Hunter hooked Pozharskyi - a board member of Burisma - up with his dad Joe for a meeting. Putting aside for the moment that Joe's schedule during that time period shows no opportunity for such a meeting, what then? Is Pozharskyi "corrupt" because he was on Burisma's board?

What did Burisma get out of the deal? Joe was pressing to fire the prosecutor who refused to prosecute organizations like Burisma

Let me muddy the waters once more: Kurt Volker, who was appointed by Trump to head Ukrainian Negotiations, also met with Pozharskyi back in 2018. Was that also corruption?

What corruption, exactly, is being alleged here even if we believe these emails - which are being kept hidden in a manner that does not allow for independent verification - are true?

Let's compare this against the open coercion by this president to have Ukraine open an investigation into the Bidens on the basis of nothing more than hearsay. 

Why do you only care about alleged corruption by Biden and not Trump?

13 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Because it doesn’t hold up.  The computer store owner is legally blind, but thinks it was Hunter because of a sticker.  Lol.  C’mon man.

These are your only Facts that this is a smear, yea your right,lol C’mon man!

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