November 9, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, eagle45 said: Eh, to that I have a big whatever. If you can’t stay off something that will put you in jail and create lifelong barriers, then perhaps it is sufficiently addicting to be illegal for a reason. But like I said...I don’t care. Make it legal. But it’s not the taxpayer’s responsibility to clean up the mess if someone ends up needing rehab or OD’s. Swimming on a beach without a lifeguard can be fun. If you want to argue the government should respect our nonviolent freedom and leave it accessible, I can buy into that. Just don’t expect someone to jump in and save you when the rip current gets you. You should talk to some of the folks you're referencing to get some perspective. Sitting up on your high chair and casting judgment and taking the "not my tax dollars" approach is classic egocentric nonsense in my opinion (I know that's strongly worded, but I'm not really attacking you directly. I think the tax dollars argument is tiresome.).
November 9, 20204 yr 4 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: i mean there is a ton of waste out there and i am all for cutting out wasteful government spending. this "could" be something that helps decrease the spending by law enforcement dramatically, clear up and cut down on court costs and drop the money spent incarcerating countless people by a ton, but hell no, i won't agree to one dollar of my tax money going to help those that may need help. There is a line that needs to be drawn. Free healthcare for kids with cancer? Government programs for vets? Public school system (although that’s a loaded problem)?....sure, sure, sure. Free college so you can party for 4 years and study art history? Sharing the responsibility of your drug problem with the American taxpayer? No, if you want a welfare state, there are other countries that embrace that. Go cite their happiness indexes. This isn’t one of them. Financing drug rehab in an environment of legalized recreational drugs...if that’s your calling, donate your time and energy to it.
November 9, 20204 yr 4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said: You should talk to some of the folks you're referencing to get some perspective. Sitting up on your high chair and casting judgment and taking the "not my tax dollars" approach is classic egocentric nonsense in my opinion (I know that's strongly worded, but I'm not really attacking you directly. I think the tax dollars argument is tiresome.). The high chair is you dictating that your moral mission on drug addiction (or pick any cause) needs to apply to everyone and their tax dollars. Im sure there’s a certain threshold of your time and money you wouldn’t spend on it either. And it’s not your job or the governments job to figure that out for me or anyone else. Again, I ease my conscience with how I live my personal life, not with what I want my government to impose upon everyone else.
November 9, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said: pick one. 1-legalize recreational drugs, but no money at all to funds rehabs 2- keep it like it is Pick one: 1. Drugs are really bad and we are morally obligated to wage a multi-billion dollar war on them (keep it like it is). 2. They should be legalized and we are then not morally obligated to finance drug rehab at a federal level....and yes, we can focus on the money and savings. I can be absolutist too.
November 10, 20204 yr How about we tax the sale of these drugs and use only that money for rehab so the drug addicts are paying for it themselves?
November 10, 20204 yr Just now, 20dawk4life said: How about we tax the sale of these drugs and use only that money for rehab so the drug addicts are paying for it themselves? That's literally what the proposal is, but eagle45 has been queefing so hard about tax payer money that we've lost sight of the primary source of funding.
November 10, 20204 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: That's literally what the proposal is, but eagle45 has been queefing so hard about tax payer money that we've lost sight of the primary source of funding. I know
December 4, 20204 yr Author The U.S. Spent $11.6B to Stop Cocaine Trafficking. It Was a Massive Failure. "The illicit drug industry has evolved far more rapidly than our efforts to contain it," says a damning new report. https://www.vice.com/en/article/88a8xa/the-us-spent-dollar116b-to-keep-cocaine-out-of-the-country-it-was-a-massive-failure
December 4, 20204 yr 5 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: The U.S. Spent $11.6B to Stop Cocaine Trafficking. It Was a Massive Failure. "The illicit drug industry has evolved far more rapidly than our efforts to contain it," says a damning new report. https://www.vice.com/en/article/88a8xa/the-us-spent-dollar116b-to-keep-cocaine-out-of-the-country-it-was-a-massive-failure Gee, it's almost like we'd be better off to legalize, regulate, and tax it instead.
December 5, 20204 yr On 12/4/2020 at 10:53 AM, we_gotta_believe said: Gee, it's almost like we'd be better off to legalize, regulate, and tax it instead. I'm just happy all those new addicts will get good paying jobs and keep their jobs so they don't have to resort to crime to pay for their habit.
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