May 4, 20214 yr Author 20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: We spent like drunk sailors to get through covid, can we pump the brakes for a couple years to give us a chance to breathe? Not that I ever expected democrats to reign in spending, but hopefully a couple senators share my concern. I can see both sides here. Generally, I think it's a great plan, but I can understand thinking that it's too much at once. We need to ensure that all families can get their kids a couple years of preschool, though, if we are truly going to compete in the 21st century. It's long overdue, but you could also make the argument that there's really no tie to waste because COVID could possibly set back an entire generation of kids even further behind that we already are. We can't afford to lose anymore ground. How will be pay for it? Aside from raising Vikas' taxes, we could start with slashing the Pentagon's budget. Fund students, not bombs.
May 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: We spent like drunk sailors to get through covid, can we pump the brakes for a couple years to give us a chance to breathe? Not that I ever expected democrats to reign in spending, but hopefully a couple senators share my concern. Ultimately, this is why I truly hated Trump. By trying to outspend dems, and being just an all around abject failure of a president in every imaginable way, he's essentially set the bar so low that things like this are not only plausible due to a lost senate, but also no longer seen as radical and DOA. Free college stuff aside (and lack of trade school involvement aside which is another pet peeve of mine), I don't consider universal preschool "radical". It's fairly common throughout the world, preschool has been demonstrated to have significant benefit in early childhood development, the US lags significantly behind most westernized nations in preschool enrollment rates, and it's a significant barrier for many women to reenter the workforce after having a kid. That last one made abundantly clear as you look at the comparative rates of women dropping out of the workforce during COVID as schools/daycares got shut down. I can certainly see the arguments against it. But in the relative scheme of social programs I wouldn't consider it radical either.
May 4, 20214 yr 19 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Palin would've been infinitely more easy to control. She's a complete moron and a fame hound, but she's not a mental patient. plus she was a bonifide MILF.
May 4, 20214 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: plus she was a bonifide GILF. FYP. Bristol was knocked up by 17.
May 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: plus she was a bonifide MILF. True. She really was the prototypical porn MILF.
May 4, 20214 yr progressives wanted free tuition at 4-year public universities. Free community college is small potatoes in comparison
May 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, rambo said: FYP. Bristol was knocked up by 17. was that during the campaign ? either way, certainly puts a new twist on any visuals i may .......oh, never mind.
May 4, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: progressives wanted free tuition at 4-year public universities. Free community college is small potatoes in comparison Community college is so inexpensive these days I wonder how much the tuition is even a barrier for attendance. Text books cost more than most CC tuition.
May 4, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: was that during the campaign ? either way, certainly puts a new twist on any visuals i may .......oh, never mind. I believe she was knocked up then. They were worried about it being a liability on the campaign.
May 4, 20214 yr Honestly, free universal pre-school is something I don't hate and could support. I don't see the need to raise taxes for it -- cut money from entitlements and defense. If we are closing the opportunity gap at a young age, in theory, the payoff should be less need for welfare spending. On Community College, I see that as a state and local issue. To highlight where I grew up, why doesn't Delaware Technical and Community College look for money from local employers to help educate a better workforce that will be steered to those employers?
May 4, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Honestly, free universal pre-school is something I don't hate and could support. I don't see the need to raise taxes for it -- cut money from entitlements and defense. If we are closing the opportunity gap at a young age, in theory, the payoff should be less need for welfare spending. On Community College, I see that as a state and local issue. To highlight where I grew up, why doesn't Delaware Technical and Community College look for money from local employers to help educate a better workforce that will be steered to those employers? I may need to turn in my libertarian card for this, but the tax loop holes that enable Fortune 500 companies from paying any taxes are bull crap. I don’t think any individual who earns an income of any kind should see a tax hike, but we shouldn’t have corporations paying an effective zero percent tax rate.
May 4, 20214 yr A lot of people already cheat the system by taking dual-credit classes as high school students. I’ve taught hundreds of high school kids at community college.
May 4, 20214 yr Just now, Gannan said: I may need to turn in my libertarian card for this, but the tax loop holes that enable Fortune 500 companies from paying any taxes are bull crap. I don’t think anyone who earns an income of any kind should see a tax hike, but we shouldn’t have corporations paying an effective zero percent tax rate. Those corps pay big money to the people in charge of the tax code for those "loopholes". Good luck with that.
May 4, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Honestly, free universal pre-school is something I don't hate and could support. I don't see the need to raise taxes for it -- cut money from entitlements and defense. If we are closing the opportunity gap at a young age, in theory, the payoff should be less need for welfare spending. On Community College, I see that as a state and local issue. To highlight where I grew up, why doesn't Delaware Technical and Community College look for money from local employers to help educate a better workforce that will be steered to those employers?
May 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: I may need to turn in my libertarian card for this, but the tax loop holes that enable Fortune 500 companies from paying any taxes are bull crap. I don’t think any individual who earns an income of any kind should see a tax hike, but we shouldn’t have corporations paying an effective zero percent tax rate. I couldn't agree more, and I am a Libertarian. But this means politicians have to stop using the tax code to try and incentivize behavior (like R&D spending, new tech). Let the market work, tax all profits at the same, lower rate.
May 4, 20214 yr Author 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I couldn't agree more, and I am a Libertarian. But this means politicians have to stop using the tax code to try and incentivize behavior (like R&D spending, new tech). Let the market work, tax all profits at the same, lower rate. Wow. Good stuff from you today. I'm like 90% in agreement with you. Miracles do happen!
May 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: I couldn't agree more, and I am a Libertarian. But this means politicians have to stop using the tax code to try and incentivize behavior (like R&D spending, new tech). Let the market work, tax all profits at the same, lower rate. I 100% agree. I'd start by banning corporate donations to politicians and political organizations. I'm 100% behind simplifying the tax code. Both corporate and personal.
May 4, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, rambo said: I 100% agree. I'd start by banning corporate donations to politicians and political organizations. I'm 100% behind simplifying the tax code. Both corporate and personal. While my dream is no income tax, or a national sales tax, those are impossible. A lower tax rate with the elimination of all deductions makes too much sense, so of course it can't happen. Someone explain the tax code around real estate exchanges, or art sales, to me -- why in the hell do we need those ridiculous things.
May 4, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Raise the retirement age on social security and means test it -- would go a long way. We cut welfare in the 1990s. It can be done, if we have politicians with balls. Dammit -- guess it can't be done.
May 4, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: While my dream is no income tax, or a national sales tax, those are impossible. A lower tax rate with the elimination of all deductions makes too much sense, so of course it can't happen. Someone explain the tax code around real estate exchanges, or art sales, to me -- why in the hell do we need those ridiculous things. Well art sales is an easy way to launder money. Real Estate exchanges are method of simply kicking the can down the road for as long as possible. They're a pain in the ass to me and I hate them.
May 4, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Wow. Good stuff from you today. I'm like 90% in agreement with you. Miracles do happen! You and I will never agree on certain things, like the scope of government services. But most rational people can agree that the current tax system is bat ish insane and built to benefit those with political influence or those participating in activities considered virtuous by politicians. It's just utterly insane and has given rise to an entire industry dedicated to finding ways to push the envelope. FFS, why are we treating married people different than single people? If we didn't use the tax code for this, then the government could be out of the marriage business and same sex marriage wouldn't be an issue. But politicians want to use the tax code to try and control human behavior, so we get this insanity.
May 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Raise the retirement age on social security and means test it -- would go a long way. We cut welfare in the 1990s. It can be done, if we have politicians with balls. Dammit -- guess it can't be done. F this delta 8 ish, I need to order from wherever you're getting your edibles from.
May 4, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, rambo said: Well art sales is an easy way to launder money. Real Estate exchanges are method of simply kicking the can down the road for as long as possible. They're a pain in the ass to me and I hate them. I mean, we use 1031 exchanges all the time. If it's in the law, I'm going to use it. But it is deplorable that it exists.
May 4, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, rambo said: Well art sales is an easy way to launder money. Real Estate exchanges are method of simply kicking the can down the road for as long as possible. They're a pain in the ass to me and I hate them. The thing that kills me is all the states that didn't conform to the Federal tax code with the latest changes. So now we need a full-time staff working on minimizing our tax liability with up to 50 sets of different rules. Now, we can afford that and the savings are more than justified by the cost. But a small business owner can't spend what we spend on staff, experts, attorneys, etc. It's patently unfair.
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